Billions wasted in Iraq

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  1. Dolemite

    Dolemite Member+

    Apr 2, 2001
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    from the guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1765048,00.html

    some excerpts

    "some In one case, the inspection team found that three years after the invasion only six of 150 health centres proposed for Iraq had been completed by a US contractor, in spite of 75% of the $186m (£100m) allocated having been spent"


    "The report says that corruption in the oil and gas sector is a continuing problem that could have "devastating effects" on reconstruction in Iraq."

    "The report says many completed projects "have delivered positive results, but there exists a gap between US project outputs and the delivery of essential services to Iraqis".



    no sheeeeeIT. who wulda thunk it. maybe if al queda had blown up the leevees in LA, they would have seen some of that cash.
     
  2. Matt in the Hat

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    Wait for the same to happen in New Orleans
     
  3. Dolemite

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    at least that money would go towards "helping" americans
     
  4. Mel Brennan

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    Be the government. Stop treating it as Other. When it's the Enemy, this is what happens. Be a democracy. Of course, if the people were the government, we'd never even be over there in the way that we went over there...
     
  5. Matt in the Hat

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    But probably not the ones that need it most. If you think about it, the corruption in Iraq helps Americans as well.

    Good on L. Paul Bremmer for not insisting on auditng and accounting whan he was the head of the CPA. Dickhead.
     
  6. heybeerman

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    What?
     
  7. GringoTex

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    The contracts in NO are going to be no-bids?
     
  8. Dolemite

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    please explain.......... we can fook up thier country on the cheap?
     
  9. Matt in the Hat

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    Well it helped the Americans that were doing the screwing, didn't it?
     
  10. Matt in the Hat

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    Betcha many will be.
     
  11. MattR

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    Look at the housing crisis in the greater Washington, D.C. metro area. It may be a bubble, it may not, but the bottom line is that there are tens of thousands of job openings, and nowhere to live for less than half a million.

    Why has this happened on Bush's watch? Because the new neo-con-agenda includes a smaller government -- and a larger, more highly paid contractor force.

    Let's put it this way. Those billions of dollars wasted went directly into the pocket of highly paid contractors, many of which were formerly military and are part of the inner circle cabal of George Bush Jr and Sr.

    Quite simply, those billions of dollars are being spent in the greater D.C. area. On million dollar condos.

    I wouldn't mind so much if it wasn't painfully obvious that the only thing more inefficient and expensive than the government is government contractors. Imaging the beaurocracy and ineptitude of government with the greed of private contractors. Yuck.

    And thus, you begat: Iraq. Doing terribly but getting paid handsomely. The new American dream.
     
  12. Dolemite

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    wow.... that 0.000000001 or less percent. thank god people died for that. 2500+ tens of thousands injured, plus tens of thousands (innocent by the way) killed in Iraq. and yet they claim to be religious. hope you can live with that
     
  13. Matt in the Hat

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    Sorry you couldn't read the sarcasm in my post.
     
  14. Matt in the Hat

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    And who makes your shoes?
     
  15. Dolemite

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    well, coming from a conservative (sorry if i'm wrong) it's hard to know when you're kidding and being 'haha look at how dumb some of us /we are'.
     
  16. Matt in the Hat

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    I don't work that way. At least I try not to.
     
  17. Revolt

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    Good news, eh?

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/story?id=156238
     
  18. Karl K

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    I just love it when you write stuff without thinking, knowing, or understanding basic fundamental facts and truths.

    And you think George BUSH is stupid?

    Ha.
     
  19. King-James

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    How do we do that? This is a republic. We aren't the government.
     
  20. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan PLANITARCHIS' BANE

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    Your username reminds of LL Cool J...

    For me, one way to do that is to be intimately, closely involved with all the doings of government. Local to global. So instead of coming home and setlling down in front of formatted, "Eyewitness" News and nodding off to commodified froms of sport and/or CSI, we might make our way down to the Town Hall to engage and observe the Township Manager and Town Council do their business, and stand and challenge them, ask questions, get information, and shape the future of our own localities (in towns older than WWII, btw, town councils emerged to replace Town meetings because, with the commitment to the consumer culture, elected reps couldn't get a quorum consistently enough to be about the matters of the town...).

    This model, writ large, begins to challenge and then take back many of the powers, and, just as importantly, institutionalized roles, of government-as-other. Candidates begin to be produced that actually represent mosto f the people most of the time while keepting track of the most vulnerable, because there is not empowered alternative context by which the people are disengaged from their citizens responsibilities and rights. In an evolutionary sense, we might begin to see the employment of robust forms of technology to treat more things as referenda than as exclusively decided. The key to this is a slow-down cultural emphasis that emerges from citizens, actualized and engaged, wanting authentic actionable information. That runs counter to the tech push for media forms that drive impulse consumption and brand implantation.

    But it's doable. If we like our ideals enough.
     

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