Bilingual P.A. Announcements In Stadiums

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  1. GUYJ

    GUYJ Member

    Mar 6, 2000
    Lincoln Park, NJ
    Are there Announcements in Spanish at your team's stadium? There are at Giants Stadium (Red Bull) unfortunately. It's one thing if you are staging an international event like the Olympics where there are regulations calling for announcements in three languages or whatever. But there is no need for it in MLS. MLS is the USA's league, and we are an English speaking nation. I'm well aware that soccer appeals to our growing Hispanic population - but so what? They are Americans like anyone else. Soccer appeals to all groups - why not have announcements in Chinese and Arabic then? I have been to matches in other countries. In Germany when a goal is scored you hear it in German - no Turkish translation despite the large immigrant population there. In England you hear English. I was a the Backham match over the weekend, and a girl sitting behind me asked her parents why they were repeating everything in Spanish. They didn't know what to tell her. I guess the child was a little too young to understand the term "pander". Growing up in today's America she'll learn it soon enough.
     
  2. Anthony

    Anthony Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Aug 20, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In Chicago, they are usually tri-lingual -- English, Spanish and Polish.

    By the time the time all the annoucnements are made they have to make another announcement.
     
  3. IlliniOnFire

    IlliniOnFire Hostile AND Abusive

    Oct 8, 2006
    Southern Illinois
    I've only heard 2 at a time... usually English and Spanish (although I went to "italian night" one time last year and they had an italian announcer)

    I don't think its that big of a deal... but i don't think there are many people in the stadium who aren't understanding what the english announcer is saying. Its not getting worked up over though.
     
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    Standing Bear agree with you. English Only from now on.








































    :rolleyes: Dipshit
     
  5. Anthony

    Anthony Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    Aug 20, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have often heard Polish also, but then again, with 2 small kids, I rarely get to as many games as I would like.

    But I agree with you, its no big deal and simply catering to your audience.
     
  6. GUYJ

    GUYJ Member

    Mar 6, 2000
    Lincoln Park, NJ

    Thanks for the reply. Polish, I had no idea. I mean I knew there was aSupporters Group with some Polish members. Anyway, Spanish, Polish, or whatever I can't agree with it. You're right it's not the end of the world, and it's just a game. And if it was just a sports matter that would be one thing. The reason it bothers me is that Americans are having English-Spanish bilingualism shoved down our throats. Nobody is asking for public acceptance or feedback, it's just being done. But I guess that belongs in the Politics Forum.
     
  7. TorFC-TML

    TorFC-TML New Member

    May 5, 2007
    Toronto
    I cant understand so many Americans resistance to simply hearing Spanish. What on earth is so offensive about it?

    I guess youre still a little too young to understand that the culture of any nation is constantly evolving.
     
  8. Sanguine

    Sanguine Member

    Jul 4, 2003
    Reston, VA
    I love the Spanish PA guy at RFK. You know it's about to be game time when you hear his 30-second long "Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Uuuuuuuuuuuniiiiiiteeeeeeeeeeeeeddddddddd" ring out from the PA.
     
  9. The thing that has really changed in the last decade isn't the number of people that can't stand to hear spanish, it's the fact that they have internet access and can tell everyone about it.
     
  10. touch line

    touch line New Member

    Jul 3, 2007
    I hate more that watching a match with spanish commentary.

    It's not offensive, just annoying.

    As far as the PA announcement goes, I'd rather they bail on the English AND the Spanish both. Just shut the F up and let the match speak for itself.
     
  11. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I kinda have to agree with the thread starter, to a point. Why is it that we assume that everyone from everywhere else in the world who comes here from another culture can speak English, but not the native spanish speakers? it's not "offensive", but it just takes too much time and is repetitive. I felt the same way in Canada at the u-20's, listening to the dual languages, as play was going on while they were slowing working their way through announcements of goals and/or substitutions, cards, etc. At least in Canada, they have a real excuse for it (the whole Quebec thing). But in the US, there simply isn't a real reason to do it. Having a lot of immigration from the south isn't enough.
     
  12. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    That's a nice way of describing xenophobia.
     
  13. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Did you miss how our announcements included Polish. There are a few neighborhoods in Chicago where you can get farther with Polish or Spanish than English. This is true for other parts of the country as well.
     
  14. wolfp10

    wolfp10 Member

    Sep 25, 2005
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  15. touch line

    touch line New Member

    Jul 3, 2007
    This is the exception. I love this guy and would put him up against Michael Buffer anyday.
     
  16. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    RFK is on Piscataway land. Why aren't there announcements in Piscataway? :D

    I guess everyone has to be upset about something. I'm in a supporters group that sing some songs in Spanish. This means I'm part of the establishment that is pushing bilingualism on people. I've become the man.

    I guess like Homie the Clown, I've sold out.
     
  17. jfranz

    jfranz New Member

    Jun 16, 2004
    Portland, OR
    Wow. Just wow.

    Starting with the fact that there are more Spanish speakers in California alone than there are French speakers in all of Canada...

    Or that Puerto Rico is a Commonwealth of the United States, and millions of Puerto Ricans live in New York (and throughout the country)...

    Wow.

    I can't believe that bilingual announcements bother people; that people shiver with an irrational anxiety that the Spanish Language is somehow sodomizing America. Calm down. It's just a language. It can't hurt you. And America has ALWAYS been a multilingual nation.
     
  18. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, but those people are also English speakers. Their children go to English speaking schools, they learn American history, etc. In Canada, there is essentially a separate system in Quebec. it's not about numbers dude. Again, it's not about being anxious ......... i speak spanish, and french, and portuguese, and a little bit of italian. it's just repetitive and silly to double up announcements under the theory (apparently) that native spanish speakers are not going to understand English at a sporting event in the US, despite expecting that every other person that comes from another country is diligent enough to learn English.
     
  19. njzorrooo

    njzorrooo Member

    Dec 21, 2005
    Brooklyn, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Making announcements in Spanish, or Polish, or whatever, is good business in a capitalist society. It's done because they are responding to their customer base. It's good business, not politics.

    If you object, than you're a commie who hates capitalism! :)
     
  20. DCUdiplomat96

    DCUdiplomat96 Member

    Mar 19, 2005
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    agreeed , hey G did they play the pregame Mexican national anthem??? looll
     
  21. Es Brennt

    Es Brennt Member+

    Feb 25, 2003
    Shermer, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The original post holds up England and Germany football as examples. Hilarious.
     
  22. jfranz

    jfranz New Member

    Jun 16, 2004
    Portland, OR
    It has nothing to do with the "theory that native Spanish speakers are not going to understand English" announcements. It's about marketing. It's about appealing to your audience. And if a large (and growing) segment of you audience speaks Spanish, it's a good idea to speak to them in Spanish - even if it isn't absolutely necessary to do so. And if/when other linguistic groups make up a large enough portion of your audience (eg. Polish in Chicago) than it's appropriate to appeal to them as well.

    Like an above post said. It's not about politics. It's about business.
     
  23. DCUdiplomat96

    DCUdiplomat96 Member

    Mar 19, 2005
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    puerto is nOT a State but yes Our territory or should i say protectorate. (of cuba i guess) culturally yes we americans are multilingual culturally so is UK so is other places in the world. polictically the US is a english speaking nation......the canada situation is basically quebec wants to be a brat or that the rest of canada is really weak when challenging hard core Quebecois...
     
  24. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
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  25. scarshins

    scarshins Member

    Jun 13, 2000
    fcva
    totally exactly, one of my favorite sounds, and they've kept it for 12 years that way.

    i'm not following you around or anything, just coincidence. :)
     

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