Brazil Argentina France Czech Italy England Spain Holland Germany Turkey Portugal Cameroon S. Korea USA Mexico Senegal Sweden Denmark Nigeria Ireland ps- how many more times does the USA have to beat Mexico before we're considered better than them? I'll admit it's close but the USA should win it on style points
My list looks like this. And I'm being very deliberate. 1. France 2. Brazil 3. Spain 4. Czech Republic 5. Netherlands 6. Cameroon 7. England 8. Italy 9. Germany 10.Argentina 11.United States 12.Senegal 13.S.Korea 14.Turkey 15.Colombia 16.Portugal 17.Sweden 18.Nigeria 19.Uruguay 20.Romania
1.- Brazil 2.- Italia 3.- Germany 4.- Argentina 5.- Netherlands 6.- France 7.- Spain 8.- England 10.- Turkey 12.- Nigeria 13.- Portugal 14.- Mexico 15.- Colombia 16.- Ireland 17.- Denmark 18.- Servia & Montenegro 19.- Paraguay 20.- USA 21.- Uruguay 22.- Senegal 23.- S.Korea 24.- Australia 25.- Chile
1. Brazil 2. Italy 3. Spain 4. France 5. Argentina 6. Germany 7. Turkey 8. Portugal 9. Holland 10. United States 11. Cameroon 12. England 13. Mexico 14. S.Korea 15. Nigeria 16. Russia 17. Columbia 18. Romania 19. Ireland 20. Costa Rica
1. Brazil 2. Holland 3. France 4. Spain 5. Argentina 6. Germany 7. Turkey 8. Italy 9. Portugal 10. England 11. Czech Rep 12. Cameroon 13. Mexico 14. Rep Ireland 15. USA 16. Sweden 17. Denmark 18. Colombia 19. Uruguay 20. Bulgaria
yeah, that's interesting so many rank Mexico above the US. Does anyone know the record between the two countries in recent meetings?
01 - France..............20 02 - Argentina..........19 03 - Italy.................18 04 - Czech Republic...17 05 - Brazil................16 06 - Netherland.........15 07 - England.............14 08 - Turkey..............13 09 - Germany...........12 10 - Spain...............11 11 - Japan...............10 12 - Denmark........... 9 13 - Senegal............ 8 14 - Portugal........... 7 15 - Sweden............ 6 16 - Belgium............ 5 17 - Bulgaria............ 4 18 - Columbia........... 3 19 - USA................. 2 20 - Mexico.............. 1
1-Czech Republic 20 2-France 19 3-Brazil 18 4-Argentina 17 5-Turkey 16 6-Holland 15 7-Germany 14 8-England 13 9-Rep. of Ireland 12 10-Italy 11 11-Greece 10 12-Cameroon 9 13-Spain 8 14-South Korea 7 15-Sweden 6 16-USA 5 17-Bulgaria 4 18-Colombia 3 19-Senegal 2 20-Mexico 1
Ask and ye shall receive. Most recent meetings: May '03 - USA 0:0 Mexico (friendly in Houston) June '02 - USA 2:0 Mexico (World Cup R16 in Jeonju) April '02 - USA 1:0 Mexico (friendly in Denver) July '01 - Mexico 1:0 USA (WCQ in Mexico City) Feb '01 - USA 2:0 Mexico (WCQ in Columbus) Oct '00 - USA 2:0 Mexico (friendly in Los Angeles) June '00 - USA 3:0 Mexico (friendly in New York) Aug '99 - Mexico 1:0 USA (Confed Cup semi in Mexico City) Notes: Aug '99 win for Mexico was (IIRC) on golden goal in extra time. June '00 win for US was against a somewhat reinforced UNAM Pumas side (USA A/B vs. equivalent to Mexico D). Oct '00 win for US was B/C-teams on both sides. July '01 win for Mexico was against a US team that had lost all of its top 4 forwards and 4 of its top 6 midfielders to injury (Mexico A vs. USA B). April '02 win for US was full A-teams on both sides despite being a friendly.
1. Brazil ............. 20 2. France ........... 19 3. Italy .............. 18 4. Argentina ....... 17 5. Czech Rep ............ 16 6. Holland...... 15 7. Spain.......... 14 8. Turkey ........ 13 9. England ......... 12 10. Germany.......... 11 11. Mexico ........ 10 12. Sweden ...... 9 13. Servia & Montenegro............ 8 14. Denmark...... 7 15. Potugal....... 6 16. Uruguay........ 5 17. Croatia...... 4 18. Belgium....... 3 19. Paraguay....... 2 20. Greece......... 1
this is honestly an excercise in futility...with the exception of 4 or 5 people posting their list here...You're all a bunch of idiots. No, seriously.
Brazil 20 France 19 Argentina 18 Czech Republic 17 Italy 16 England 15 Turkey 14 Netherlands 13 Spain 12 Germany 11 Portugal 10 Senegal 9 Cameroon 8 Columbia 7 Sweden 6 Mexico 5 South Korea 4 Denmark 3 Uruguay 2 Australia 1
1. Brazil ............. 20 2. France ........... 19 3. Argentina...... 18 4. Italy ....... 17 5. Czech Rep ............ 16 6. Holland...... 15 7. Spain.......... 14 8. Germany........ 13 9. England......... 12 10. Turkey......... 11 11. Cameroon......... 10 12. Sweden ...... 9 13. Portugal ...... 8 14. Romania....... 7 15. USA........ 6 16. Mexico...... 5 17. South korea..... 4 18. Denmark....... 3 19. Paraguay....... 2 20. Columbia............ 1
1. Brazil 2. Italy 3. Argentina 4. France 5. Spain 6. England 7. Czech Republic 8. Germany 9. Portugal 10. Holland 11. Turkey 12. Cameroon 13. USA 14. Ireland 15. Mexico 16. Sweden 17. Senegal 18. South Korea 19. Japan 20. Wales
lol... which 5? that would be a great point... if those were the only games they ever played - as it is, it's still a decent point, but mexico did recently beat brazil
Well I started the thread, might aswell carry it through. But there have been some lame rankings. Mention no names, but the poster who put USA at 10, and England at 12 is obviously a joke. Holland have done fuk all, they didn't qualify in last years world cup, and they might not even qualify for Euro 2004', Czech Republic won their group, but a hell of a lot of people rank them 2nd, while others have more sense. RANKINGS UPDATED 01 - Brazil..............|566 02 - France..............|532 03 - Argentina...........|480 04 - Italy...............|455 05 - Netherlands.........|415 06 - Spain...............|413 07 - Czech Republic......|401 08 - England.............|388 09 - Germany.............|379 10 - Turkey..............|339 ----------------------------- 11 - Portugal............|280 12 - Mexico..............|183 13 - Cameroon............|171 14 - United States.......|165 15 - Sweden..............|133 16 - Rep. of Ireland.....|119 17 - Denmark.............|118 18 - Senegal.............|101 19 - South Korea.........|65 20 - Columbia............|60 ----------------------------- 21 - Nigeria.............|57 22 - Japan...............|41 23 - Uruguay.............|30 24 - Romania.............|30 25 - Belgium.............|28 26 - Croatia.............|23 27 - Greece..............|17 28 - Paraguay............|16 29 - Russia..............|14 30 - Serbia..............|13 31 - Wales...............|13 32 - Bulgaria............|9 33 - Costa Rica..........|8 34 - Iran................|4 35 - Norway..............|3 36 - Switzerland.........|3 37 - Australia...........|1
Good work Pigs, some people appreciate ya . 1) Brazil................20 2) France..............19 3) Italy............. ....18 4) Argentina...........17 5) England.............16 6) Spain.................15 7) Holland..............14 8) Turkey................13 9) Ze Germans........12 10) Sweden............11 11) Czechs.............10 12) USA....................9 13) Portugal..............8 14) Denmark..............7 15) Mexico................6 16) R Ireland..............5 17) S Korea...............4 18) Senegal...............3 19) Australia..............2 20) Cameroon............1
Better had, I'm not doing it again. UEFA Euro 2004’ Qualifying Group Record (Overall Table) PO - Team....... |Pl| W| D| L|GD|Pts 01 - France..... | 7| 7| 0| 0|24| 21 02 - Czech Rep.. | 7| 6| 1| 0|17| 19 03 - England.... | 7| 6| 1| 0| 9| 19 03 - Turkey..... | 7| 6| 0| 1|12| 18 04 - Sweden..... | 7| 5| 2| 0|17| 17 05 - Bulgaria... | 7| 5| 2| 0|10| 17 06 - Holland.... | 7| 5| 1| 1| 9| 16 07 - Germany.... | 7| 4| 3| 0| 6| 15 08 - Greece..... | 7| 5| 0| 2| 3| 15 09 - Romania.... | 8| 4| 2| 2|12| 14 10 - Italy...... | 7| 4| 2| 1| 9| 14 11 - Spain...... | 7| 4| 2| 1| 8| 14 12 - Denmark.... | 7| 4| 2| 1| 6| 14 Since a lot of people here obviously haven't been upto date with some teams recent results...
of course that is not a true measure as they are all playing different teams - some groups are easier than others overall i dont think these rankings are THAT ridiculous
The FIFA rankings are a joke, some Americans love rankings and assume the FIFA one´s are good. They are not. I love your idea Pigs and here is my take. Football´s primary aim is to get results, not to play nicely. So I just don´t understand why teams like Spain or Holland get rated so highly. Sure, they play some nice ball, but what did they achieve? 1) France - 20 (Solid defense and good young players put them over Brazil) 2) Brazil - 19 (Not as impressive as before, but WON the WC, made the best of a somewhat poor WC) 3) Argentina - 18 (WC Group of Death, unhappy to go out, GREAT players) 4) Italy - 17 (Great players as well, but the wrong coach, could be much of a force if playing a more attacking style) 5) Czech Republic -16 (results AND nice football) 6) England - 15 (not because I´m half English, but they have some good footballers and get the results. Newsflash: Compared to the likes of Spain and Holland they actually win most of their competitive matches) 7) Turkey - 14 (Hate to admit it, but they are good. If only it wasn´t for their supporters) 8) Germany - 13 (Somewhat down, but still get the results, lots of promising players, some still injured like Nowotny and Deisler) 9) Netherlands - 12 (Would probably have qualified directly in most of the other groups, but again, they haven´t, and that´s what counts. BAD team spirit) 10) Spain - 11 (Being second to Greece is NOT a good thing. Only Top Ten because they have good players) 11) Portugal - 10 (Aging team, behind Spain because of this. Always fail when it counts.) 12) Cameroon - 9 (WC was bad luck, the Irish were tough. Good, stylish team) 13) Ireland - 8 (Interesting team with a fighting spirit) 14) USA - 7 (I think they are a force to be reckoned in the years to come, but not in WC 06) 15) Columbia - 6 (Good results lately, but never achieved much at world stage) 16) Sweden - 5 (Solid EC qualifying) 17) Senegal - 4 (Have to show they are no one-hit wonder) 18) Mexico - 3 (Top 20 but barely, Gold Cup doesn´t count much to me) 19) South Korea - 2 (See Senegal) 20) Nigeria - 1 (I like African football) Tough to be let out: Bulgaria, Wales, Greece and Switzerland - all of them had noteworthy results, but sometimes the style was not too promising (Greece), they had a rather easy group (Bulgaria) or slipped against lesser opponents (Wales). Comments appreciated.
well i could definitely quibble with your rankings as well - it's all subjective oh and HOLLAND's loss at the czech republic (which is some sort of shameful result i suppose) was their first loss in 17 IIRC and for the people ranking nigeria in the top 20... when was the last time that side didn't take a crap? they hadn't had a good result in eons
My top 20: 1) Brazil 2) Czech Republic 3) France 4) Argentina 5) Italy 6) England 7) Turkey 8) Germany 9) Cameroon 10) Spain 11) Mexico 12) Sweden 13) Netherlands 14) USA 15) Denmark 16) South Korea 17) Portugal 18) Colombia 19) Australia 20) Senegal
1. brazzil 2. france 3. argentina 4. italy 5. spain 6. czech rep 7. england 8. nederland 9.germany 10. portugal 11. sweden 12. USA 13. Mexico 14. denmark 15. s. korea 16. cameroon 17. senegal 18.uruguay 19. colombia 20. wales(heroics in euro) otherwise they belong somewhere in the 40's
RANKINGS UPDATED -------------------------|PTS| 01 - Brazil..............|645| 02 - France..............|608| 03 - Argentina...........|550| 04 - Italy...............|523| 05 - Spain...............|466| 06 - Netherlands.........|462| 07 - Czech Republic......|461| 08 - England.............|448| 09 - Germany.............|429| 10 - Turkey..............|380| ------------------------------ 11 - Portugal............|313| 12 - Mexico..............|210| 13 - Cameroon............|198| 14 - United States.......|197| 15 - Sweden..............|168| 16 - Denmark.............|138| 17 - Rep. of Ireland.....|132| 18 - Senegal.............|114| 19 - South Korea.........| 81| 20 - Columbia............| 70| ------------------------------ 21 - Nigeria.............| 58| 22 - Japan...............| 41| 23 - Uruguay.............| 32| 24 - Romania.............| 30| 25 - Belgium.............| 28| 26 - Croatia.............| 23| 27 - Greece..............| 17| 28 - Paraguay............| 16| 29 - Russia..............| 14| 30 - Serbia..............| 13| 31 - Wales...............| 14| 32 - Bulgaria............| .9| 33 - Costa Rica..........| .8| 34 - Australia...........| .5| 35 - Iran................| .4| 36 - Norway..............| .3| 36 - Switzerland.........| .3| ------------------------------