Bigsoccer World Rankings

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by Pigs, Oct 3, 2003.

  1. Frieslander

    Frieslander Member
    Staff Member

    Feb 14, 2000
    North Jersey
    Brazil
    Argentina
    France
    Czech
    Italy
    England
    Spain
    Holland
    Germany
    Turkey
    Portugal
    Cameroon
    S. Korea
    USA
    Mexico
    Senegal
    Sweden
    Denmark
    Nigeria
    Ireland

    ps- how many more times does the USA have to beat Mexico before we're considered better than them? I'll admit it's close but the USA should win it on style points
     
  2. Darknote2

    Darknote2 New Member

    Jun 2, 2003
    Pasadena
    My list looks like this. And I'm being very deliberate.

    1. France
    2. Brazil
    3. Spain
    4. Czech Republic
    5. Netherlands
    6. Cameroon
    7. England
    8. Italy
    9. Germany
    10.Argentina
    11.United States
    12.Senegal
    13.S.Korea
    14.Turkey
    15.Colombia
    16.Portugal
    17.Sweden
    18.Nigeria
    19.Uruguay
    20.Romania
     
  3. 1.- Brazil
    2.- Italia
    3.- Germany
    4.- Argentina
    5.- Netherlands
    6.- France
    7.- Spain
    8.- England
    10.- Turkey
    12.- Nigeria
    13.- Portugal
    14.- Mexico
    15.- Colombia
    16.- Ireland
    17.- Denmark
    18.- Servia & Montenegro
    19.- Paraguay
    20.- USA
    21.- Uruguay
    22.- Senegal
    23.- S.Korea
    24.- Australia
    25.- Chile
     
  4. Femfa

    Femfa New Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    Los Angeles
    1. Brazil
    2. Italy
    3. Spain
    4. France
    5. Argentina
    6. Germany
    7. Turkey
    8. Portugal
    9. Holland
    10. United States
    11. Cameroon
    12. England
    13. Mexico
    14. S.Korea
    15. Nigeria
    16. Russia
    17. Columbia
    18. Romania
    19. Ireland
    20. Costa Rica
     
  5. Aguilas Del America

    Oct 28, 2002
    Nido de Coapa
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    1. Brazil
    2. Holland
    3. France
    4. Spain
    5. Argentina
    6. Germany
    7. Turkey
    8. Italy
    9. Portugal
    10. England
    11. Czech Rep
    12. Cameroon
    13. Mexico
    14. Rep Ireland
    15. USA
    16. Sweden
    17. Denmark
    18. Colombia
    19. Uruguay
    20. Bulgaria
     
  6. bkn0528

    bkn0528 Member

    Aug 2, 2003
    nyc
    yeah, that's interesting so many rank Mexico above the US. Does anyone know the record between the two countries in recent meetings?
     
  7. Sildegil

    Sildegil New Member

    May 15, 2002
    01 - France..............20
    02 - Argentina..........19
    03 - Italy.................18
    04 - Czech Republic...17
    05 - Brazil................16
    06 - Netherland.........15
    07 - England.............14
    08 - Turkey..............13
    09 - Germany...........12
    10 - Spain...............11
    11 - Japan...............10
    12 - Denmark........... 9
    13 - Senegal............ 8
    14 - Portugal........... 7
    15 - Sweden............ 6
    16 - Belgium............ 5
    17 - Bulgaria............ 4
    18 - Columbia........... 3
    19 - USA................. 2
    20 - Mexico.............. 1
     
  8. miko

    miko New Member

    Jun 5, 2003
    Ireland
    1-Czech Republic 20
    2-France 19
    3-Brazil 18
    4-Argentina 17
    5-Turkey 16
    6-Holland 15
    7-Germany 14
    8-England 13
    9-Rep. of Ireland 12
    10-Italy 11
    11-Greece 10
    12-Cameroon 9
    13-Spain 8
    14-South Korea 7
    15-Sweden 6
    16-USA 5
    17-Bulgaria 4
    18-Colombia 3
    19-Senegal 2
    20-Mexico 1
     
  9. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ask and ye shall receive.

    Most recent meetings:

    May '03 - USA 0:0 Mexico (friendly in Houston)
    June '02 - USA 2:0 Mexico (World Cup R16 in Jeonju)
    April '02 - USA 1:0 Mexico (friendly in Denver)
    July '01 - Mexico 1:0 USA (WCQ in Mexico City)
    Feb '01 - USA 2:0 Mexico (WCQ in Columbus)
    Oct '00 - USA 2:0 Mexico (friendly in Los Angeles)
    June '00 - USA 3:0 Mexico (friendly in New York)
    Aug '99 - Mexico 1:0 USA (Confed Cup semi in Mexico City)

    Notes:
    Aug '99 win for Mexico was (IIRC) on golden goal in extra time.
    June '00 win for US was against a somewhat reinforced UNAM Pumas side (USA A/B vs. equivalent to Mexico D).
    Oct '00 win for US was B/C-teams on both sides.
    July '01 win for Mexico was against a US team that had lost all of its top 4 forwards and 4 of its top 6 midfielders to injury (Mexico A vs. USA B).
    April '02 win for US was full A-teams on both sides despite being a friendly.
     
  10. Hecho en Mexico

    Hecho en Mexico Member+

    Mar 22, 2002
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    1. Brazil ............. 20
    2. France ........... 19
    3. Italy .............. 18
    4. Argentina ....... 17
    5. Czech Rep ............ 16
    6. Holland...... 15
    7. Spain.......... 14
    8. Turkey ........ 13
    9. England ......... 12
    10. Germany.......... 11
    11. Mexico ........ 10
    12. Sweden ...... 9
    13. Servia & Montenegro............ 8
    14. Denmark...... 7
    15. Potugal....... 6
    16. Uruguay........ 5
    17. Croatia...... 4
    18. Belgium....... 3
    19. Paraguay....... 2
    20. Greece......... 1
     
  11. Treetaliano

    Treetaliano Member

    Jun 29, 2002
    San Diego
    this is honestly an excercise in futility...with the exception of 4 or 5 people posting their list here...You're all a bunch of idiots.

    No, seriously.
     
  12. Mobile

    Mobile New Member

    Jul 29, 2002
    Melbourne
    Haha - you can fucking talk.
     
  13. sendorange

    sendorange Member+

    Jun 7, 2003
    Bigsoccer.com
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Brazil 20
    France 19
    Argentina 18
    Czech Republic 17
    Italy 16
    England 15
    Turkey 14
    Netherlands 13
    Spain 12
    Germany 11
    Portugal 10
    Senegal 9
    Cameroon 8
    Columbia 7
    Sweden 6
    Mexico 5
    South Korea 4
    Denmark 3
    Uruguay 2
    Australia 1
     
  14. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    1. Brazil ............. 20
    2. France ........... 19
    3. Argentina...... 18
    4. Italy ....... 17
    5. Czech Rep ............ 16
    6. Holland...... 15
    7. Spain.......... 14
    8. Germany........ 13
    9. England......... 12
    10. Turkey......... 11
    11. Cameroon......... 10
    12. Sweden ...... 9
    13. Portugal ...... 8
    14. Romania....... 7
    15. USA........ 6
    16. Mexico...... 5
    17. South korea..... 4
    18. Denmark....... 3
    19. Paraguay....... 2
    20. Columbia............ 1
     
  15. RoverMax

    RoverMax Member

    May 4, 2003
    NYC
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. Brazil
    2. Italy
    3. Argentina
    4. France
    5. Spain
    6. England
    7. Czech Republic
    8. Germany
    9. Portugal
    10. Holland
    11. Turkey
    12. Cameroon
    13. USA
    14. Ireland
    15. Mexico
    16. Sweden
    17. Senegal
    18. South Korea
    19. Japan
    20. Wales
     
  16. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax

    lol... which 5?



    that would be a great point... if those were the only games they ever played - as it is, it's still a decent point, but mexico did recently beat brazil
     
  17. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Well I started the thread, might aswell carry it through. But there have been some lame rankings.

    Mention no names, but the poster who put USA at 10, and England at 12 is obviously a joke.

    Holland have done fuk all, they didn't qualify in last years world cup, and they might not even qualify for Euro 2004', Czech Republic won their group, but a hell of a lot of people rank them 2nd, while others have more sense.



    RANKINGS UPDATED
    01 - Brazil..............|566
    02 - France..............|532
    03 - Argentina...........|480
    04 - Italy...............|455
    05 - Netherlands.........|415
    06 - Spain...............|413
    07 - Czech Republic......|401
    08 - England.............|388
    09 - Germany.............|379
    10 - Turkey..............|339
    -----------------------------
    11 - Portugal............|280
    12 - Mexico..............|183
    13 - Cameroon............|171
    14 - United States.......|165
    15 - Sweden..............|133
    16 - Rep. of Ireland.....|119
    17 - Denmark.............|118
    18 - Senegal.............|101
    19 - South Korea.........|65
    20 - Columbia............|60
    -----------------------------
    21 - Nigeria.............|57
    22 - Japan...............|41
    23 - Uruguay.............|30
    24 - Romania.............|30
    25 - Belgium.............|28
    26 - Croatia.............|23
    27 - Greece..............|17
    28 - Paraguay............|16
    29 - Russia..............|14
    30 - Serbia..............|13
    31 - Wales...............|13
    32 - Bulgaria............|9
    33 - Costa Rica..........|8
    34 - Iran................|4
    35 - Norway..............|3
    36 - Switzerland.........|3
    37 - Australia...........|1
     
  18. Rambler

    Rambler New Member

    May 6, 2003
    Good work Pigs, some people appreciate ya .

    1) Brazil................20
    2) France..............19
    3) Italy............. ....18
    4) Argentina...........17
    5) England.............16
    6) Spain.................15
    7) Holland..............14
    8) Turkey................13
    9) Ze Germans........12
    10) Sweden............11
    11) Czechs.............10
    12) USA....................9
    13) Portugal..............8
    14) Denmark..............7
    15) Mexico................6
    16) R Ireland..............5
    17) S Korea...............4
    18) Senegal...............3
    19) Australia..............2
    20) Cameroon............1
     
  19. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Better had, I'm not doing it again. ;)


    UEFA Euro 2004’ Qualifying Group Record (Overall Table)

    PO - Team....... |Pl| W| D| L|GD|Pts
    01 - France..... | 7| 7| 0| 0|24| 21
    02 - Czech Rep.. | 7| 6| 1| 0|17| 19
    03 - England.... | 7| 6| 1| 0| 9| 19
    03 - Turkey..... | 7| 6| 0| 1|12| 18
    04 - Sweden..... | 7| 5| 2| 0|17| 17
    05 - Bulgaria... | 7| 5| 2| 0|10| 17
    06 - Holland.... | 7| 5| 1| 1| 9| 16
    07 - Germany.... | 7| 4| 3| 0| 6| 15
    08 - Greece..... | 7| 5| 0| 2| 3| 15
    09 - Romania.... | 8| 4| 2| 2|12| 14
    10 - Italy...... | 7| 4| 2| 1| 9| 14
    11 - Spain...... | 7| 4| 2| 1| 8| 14
    12 - Denmark.... | 7| 4| 2| 1| 6| 14


    Since a lot of people here obviously haven't been upto date with some teams recent results...
     
  20. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax

    of course that is not a true measure as they are all playing different teams - some groups are easier than others

    overall i dont think these rankings are THAT ridiculous
     
  21. c.topfer

    c.topfer New Member

    Jun 25, 2002
    The FIFA rankings are a joke, some Americans love rankings and assume the FIFA one´s are good. They are not. I love your idea Pigs and here is my take. Football´s primary aim is to get results, not to play nicely. So I just don´t understand why teams like Spain or Holland get rated so highly. Sure, they play some nice ball, but what did they achieve?

    1) France - 20
    (Solid defense and good young players put them over Brazil)

    2) Brazil - 19
    (Not as impressive as before, but WON the WC, made the best of a somewhat poor WC)

    3) Argentina - 18
    (WC Group of Death, unhappy to go out, GREAT players)

    4) Italy - 17
    (Great players as well, but the wrong coach, could be much of a force if playing a more attacking style)

    5) Czech Republic -16
    (results AND nice football)

    6) England - 15
    (not because I´m half English, but they have some good footballers and get the results. Newsflash: Compared to the likes of Spain and Holland they actually win most of their competitive matches)

    7) Turkey - 14
    (Hate to admit it, but they are good. If only it wasn´t for their supporters)

    8) Germany - 13
    (Somewhat down, but still get the results, lots of promising players, some still injured like Nowotny and Deisler)

    9) Netherlands - 12
    (Would probably have qualified directly in most of the other groups, but again, they haven´t, and that´s what counts. BAD team spirit)

    10) Spain - 11
    (Being second to Greece is NOT a good thing. Only Top Ten because they have good players)

    11) Portugal - 10
    (Aging team, behind Spain because of this. Always fail when it counts.)

    12) Cameroon - 9
    (WC was bad luck, the Irish were tough. Good, stylish team)

    13) Ireland - 8
    (Interesting team with a fighting spirit)

    14) USA - 7
    (I think they are a force to be reckoned in the years to come, but not in WC 06)

    15) Columbia - 6
    (Good results lately, but never achieved much at world stage)

    16) Sweden - 5
    (Solid EC qualifying)

    17) Senegal - 4
    (Have to show they are no one-hit wonder)

    18) Mexico - 3
    (Top 20 but barely, Gold Cup doesn´t count much to me)

    19) South Korea - 2
    (See Senegal)

    20) Nigeria - 1
    (I like African football)

    Tough to be let out: Bulgaria, Wales, Greece and Switzerland - all of them had noteworthy results, but sometimes the style was not too promising (Greece), they had a rather easy group (Bulgaria) or slipped against lesser opponents (Wales).

    Comments appreciated.
     
  22. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    well i could definitely quibble with your rankings as well - it's all subjective

    oh and HOLLAND's loss at the czech republic (which is some sort of shameful result i suppose) was their first loss in 17 IIRC

    and for the people ranking nigeria in the top 20... when was the last time that side didn't take a crap? they hadn't had a good result in eons
     
  23. Pebotodi

    Pebotodi New Member

    Jul 21, 2003
    My top 20:

    1) Brazil
    2) Czech Republic
    3) France
    4) Argentina
    5) Italy
    6) England
    7) Turkey
    8) Germany
    9) Cameroon
    10) Spain
    11) Mexico
    12) Sweden
    13) Netherlands
    14) USA
    15) Denmark
    16) South Korea
    17) Portugal
    18) Colombia
    19) Australia
    20) Senegal
     
  24. giggs88

    giggs88 Member

    May 11, 2003
    Virginia
    1. brazzil

    2. france

    3. argentina

    4. italy

    5. spain

    6. czech rep

    7. england

    8. nederland

    9.germany

    10. portugal

    11. sweden

    12. USA

    13. Mexico

    14. denmark

    15. s. korea

    16. cameroon

    17. senegal

    18.uruguay

    19. colombia

    20. wales(heroics in euro) otherwise they belong somewhere in the 40's
     
  25. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England

    RANKINGS UPDATED

    -------------------------|PTS|
    01 - Brazil..............|645|
    02 - France..............|608|
    03 - Argentina...........|550|
    04 - Italy...............|523|
    05 - Spain...............|466|
    06 - Netherlands.........|462|
    07 - Czech Republic......|461|
    08 - England.............|448|
    09 - Germany.............|429|
    10 - Turkey..............|380|
    ------------------------------
    11 - Portugal............|313|
    12 - Mexico..............|210|
    13 - Cameroon............|198|
    14 - United States.......|197|
    15 - Sweden..............|168|
    16 - Denmark.............|138|
    17 - Rep. of Ireland.....|132|
    18 - Senegal.............|114|
    19 - South Korea.........| 81|
    20 - Columbia............| 70|
    ------------------------------
    21 - Nigeria.............| 58|
    22 - Japan...............| 41|
    23 - Uruguay.............| 32|
    24 - Romania.............| 30|
    25 - Belgium.............| 28|
    26 - Croatia.............| 23|
    27 - Greece..............| 17|
    28 - Paraguay............| 16|
    29 - Russia..............| 14|
    30 - Serbia..............| 13|
    31 - Wales...............| 14|
    32 - Bulgaria............| .9|
    33 - Costa Rica..........| .8|
    34 - Australia...........| .5|
    35 - Iran................| .4|
    36 - Norway..............| .3|
    36 - Switzerland.........| .3|
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