Biggest Problems [R]

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by MarioKempes, Nov 1, 2003.

  1. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United
    Aug 3, 2000
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    1) Too old -- Etch, Hristo, Stewart -- b'Bye

    2) Too slow -- Etch, Hristo (see above)

    3) Can't pass -- everyone on the whole team

    4) Can't dribble -- most on the team

    That was some of the most horrific passing I have ever seen in my life. :( Send the troops back to AYSO for re-training.
     
  2. jason1551

    jason1551 Member+

    Apr 9, 2003
    Columbus, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    5) Lack of a proper d-mid, which leads to

    6) Not signing Colosimo (or getting the opportunity to).

    After doing my homework, I think this guy would have been a godsend to our midfield. Here's to the offseason and us trying to get him again.
     
  3. mischaDCU

    mischaDCU New Member

    Mar 26, 2001
    Columbia, MD
    7) Lack of credible outside shooting (just a willingness to try ANY shooting would be nice... Dema and Namoff at least try sometimes, just not tonight).

    8) Inability to adjust our tactics based on our available personel; e.g., too many long, looping balls in the air to a mostly short offense that isn't all that good in the air.

    As far as item 4) goes, Convey and Q2 (and Dema, sometimes) at least succeed occasionally. But Q2 (especially) fails on item 2).
     
  4. Sanguine

    Sanguine Member

    Jul 4, 2003
    Reston, VA
    9) Convey sucks. I mean he really, really sucks. I used to like the kid, but the less he plays, the more we win. trade him at the first opportunity.
     
  5. jason1551

    jason1551 Member+

    Apr 9, 2003
    Columbus, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    If it wasn't for him being worth an allocation, I'd say we go ahead and trade him for Brad Davis or some other young, just as capable midfielder. But I really think the non-transfer and being sick (for like 3 weeks or so after the transfer) have really put a damper on his current level of play.

    I'd rather wait during the offseason to see if there's any interest and then either keep him till a) he does get transferred (during the summer) or b) trade him if he doesn't. But it's really hard to say whether he's just in a slump (which IMO) or just topping out.
     
  6. Sanguine

    Sanguine Member

    Jul 4, 2003
    Reston, VA
    we've sucked ever since the day he signed. ship him out.
     
  7. C1pher

    C1pher New Member

    Jul 13, 2003
    VA
    Amen to that, cept for the fact that I never liked him. The kid isnt great, people please stop making him out to be some great player, get over it.
     
  8. jason1551

    jason1551 Member+

    Apr 9, 2003
    Columbus, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Great? No. Good? Yes. At 20 years old, he is already proving that he can step it up, especially on the USMNT. I think that too many people are judging him over the last two months when he been through so many physical, emotional, and mental problems. I think he deserves the chance to prove his worth when he is at full strength, not the eyesore he has recently been. Give him time and it'll work itself out.
     
  9. Jester64

    Jester64 Member

    Sep 12, 2003
    Takoma Park
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Convey is a big of an enigma. My guess, because he is still young and a little small, is that when surrounded by good players, he gets better and more dangerous, moreso than normal. But what he doesn't seem to be able to do is carry a bad team alone. Of course, there are players that can carry a bad team, that when placed with internationals, can't do squat. So if we want to keep Convey, we should get some midfielders that match his style, and a coach that will agree to run at the defense. And if we want to play slow ball, and trade him away, be prepared for him to blossom elsewhere.
     
  10. futbolrey

    futbolrey New Member

    Dec 20, 2002
    Burke, Va
    10) coach hudson


    where is the fire hudson tread?
     
  11. SABuffalo786

    SABuffalo786 New Member

    May 18, 2002
    Buffalo, New York
    If Nelsen stays on for another year, we'll have the best defensive core in MLS hands down.

    If there's one thing Ray did right it was fixing the defense. There's no need to make any changes to it over the offseason. Nick in goal with Reyes, Petke, Nelsen, and Prideaux in front of him with Namoff and Stokes in reserve? Oh yes.


    As far as the midfield goes, we obviously need a holding midfielder, as jason mentioned. I've never heard of this Colosimo guy. Can someone fill me in? If anything, cut Ivanov and use his SI slot for this guy. We all know how huge Ben is to this team, so he's a given. I still haven't given up on Bobby. Having a dream move to England fall out is pretty rough, and we know he's a much better player than his recent play suggests. With Marco gone, it will finally be Bobby's team to run from the middle. I'm going to put Dema on the left, but not have him confined to a left wing position. Let him roam where he wants. He's got the pace, energy, and intensity to do this effectivley.


    Let me state the obvious by saying: WE NEED A FINISHER!!!! I think Thiago Martins will make a good target foward. He can knock down balls, and be a general pain in the ass to opposing defenses, but he lacks (so far) that finishing touch. Get a speedy finisher who can run off him, and thinks only of one thing: Getting the ball in the net. Have Adu and Earnie coming off the bench, and I think we'll be alright.


    GK-Rimando
    RB-Reyes
    CB-Nelsen
    CB-Petke
    LB-Prideaux
    DM-Colosimo/New signing
    RM-Olsen
    LM-Kovalenko
    AM-Convey
    CF-Martins
    ST-New Signing
     
  12. Atouk

    Atouk BigSoccer Supporter

    DC United
    Apr 16, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With only Nelsen and Ivanov taking up SI slots, we have one available now and wouldn't need to cut anyone to pick up an SI. Chino just turned 23 in October, so I think he has one more year as a TI (and, if he doesn't get a Green Card, that means he probably only has one more year in the league).
     
  13. GUTuna

    GUTuna Member

    Mar 23, 2000
    Washington, DC USA
    I don't know about firing the guy, but he definitely made a Grady Little type mistake in this game by allowing the team to push totally forward at the end of the game. I was yelling to my father that we were going to give up the second goal and basically lose the series in Game 1. 1-0 is not impossible. 2-0 is a killer. Ray, with his Euro-background should have known that and not let his midfield get so far upfield.
     
  14. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    No need to fire him. Just don't renew the contract.

    The Ray Hudson light bulb is just too dim.
     
  15. SABuffalo786

    SABuffalo786 New Member

    May 18, 2002
    Buffalo, New York

    Let's cut Ivanov anyway.
     
  16. jason1551

    jason1551 Member+

    Apr 9, 2003
    Columbus, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Colosimo was the mysterious player Hudson was referring to when he said that Convey's nontransfer messed up a lot of his plans. Hudson was fully prepared to sign him, but then didn't have the roster space or time to sign him. From what I've read, he is a very promising defender/d-mid that has shown signs of promise. He was one of the main reasons Perth Glory won the Australian league last season, and he was named MOTM for the final. At 24, he's not even an SI, but I think he'll be in our radar during the offseason.

    And I've said all season that we should cut Ivanov. He makes too many stupid mistakes (slipping, getting blown by all the time, reckless tackles) that he is more of a liability than an asset. With Reyes returning, we have no need for him.
     
  17. ignatz

    ignatz New Member

    Jun 3, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Did we use an allocation for Ivanov? If so, can we get another if we let him go?
     
  18. Cweedchop

    Cweedchop Member+

    Mar 6, 2000
    Ellicott City, Md
    Actually that was more for next season when Convey was gone and the player in question was an Argentine striker, not Colosimo..

    Seriously dude, why do you keep harping on this guy? How could you possibly know how good this guy is?

    No doubt his lofty credentials with the mighty Perth Glory set him above the Gods but if he really was any good at all he'd be in England right now plying his trade...
     
  19. Atouk

    Atouk BigSoccer Supporter

    DC United
    Apr 16, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes to the first question. We used the allocation that came over from New Jersey.

    http://www.dcunited.com/index.cfm?section=main&cont_id=160626

    As for the second question, I think the answer is no unless the league were able to sell him. I just hope we get one for Etcheverry.

    Here's the league's less-than-clear statement on allocated players:
    From: http://www.mlsnet.com/about/regulations/
     
  20. galperin

    galperin Member

    Feb 1, 2001
    Maineville, OH
    Convey is not the problem. The problem is he has no one to work with. He is not a player who can take over a game and lead a team, but he can play well when surrounded by talent. Look at his play with the USMNT. He plays pretty well when in the US jersey, despite often playing out of position.

    Worth Keeping for next year:

    GK: Rimando, Warren
    D: Reyes, Nelson, Stokes
    M: Convey, Olsen, Q2
    F: Cerritos, Stewart, Q1, Esky

    Everybody else can take a hike!

    Hopefully, we'll get a decent allocation for Etch leaving.

    We desperately need: everything except a keeper, but mainly a d-mid, a finisher, another outside back.


    Possible for next year:

    Warren
    Stokes, Nelson, ?, Reyes
    Olsen, Convey, Q2, Stewart
    Cerritos, Esky
     
  21. Atouk

    Atouk BigSoccer Supporter

    DC United
    Apr 16, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The team MVP doesn't even make the cut? :( I'm definitely glad we'll have Dema on our team next year.
     
  22. jason1551

    jason1551 Member+

    Apr 9, 2003
    Columbus, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Well, he was labelled as Australia's best midfielder, take that as you will.

    But to answer your query, he had just finished his contract with Manchester City and was coming off an injury. He went back to Australia to nurse himself back to being a regular again. And the reason I harp on him is because DC wanted to bring him in for a tryout, but couldn't/never got around to it. All signs pointed to him being the cure for our d-mid woes and still do.

    And refresh my memory: what Argentine striker? I know that we brought in a whole sh!tload of potential signings, but Colosimo was the only player that was ever mentioned by name as being a player we would sign.
     
  23. tvtp_public

    tvtp_public New Member

    Oct 20, 2003
    Suggestion

    The followings need to be cut:
    1. Marco
    2. Ivanov
    3. Hristo
     
  24. Red&Black

    Red&Black Member+

    Aug 30, 2001
    Lot 8
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Burkina Faso
    maybe colosmio is considered the best austrailian mid by his mom, but nobody else in the entire world thinks he's better than emerton.
     
  25. Cuchulain

    Cuchulain Member

    Feb 18, 2003
    bardo city
    I agree with your assessment of the defense -- it could be very good indeed. and even though we have an unused SI, I still wonder about ivanov -- flashes of ability mixed with moments of oblivion just don't seem worth an SI spot to me.

    but I would definitely leave convey on the wing, and I'd rather look at dema in the middle -- just seems more responsible. and I'd like to see the cerritos/earnie tandem after a full preseason, with martins coming off the bench and esky parking cars.

    Q1 is the enigma to me. he looked good at wing (which would let you move convey into the middle, but nowhere to put dema), but I'm sure he could still play up front. but I guess he'll get hurt again anyway so what difference does it make.

    most important thing: new coach. please.
     

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