Biden is President - filling out the cabinet and beyond

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  1. Yoshou

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    No. She doesn't. She has every right to be critical of the Blinken and, based on her experience, be concerned that her 1st Amendment right will be impinged upon by people like Blinken. As a person who has, in the past, taken a position contradictory to the Obama administration and expressed ironclad support for Israel, he should address whether he'll accept comments that are critical of Israel.
     
  2. charlie15

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    Again, you are interpreting through your rose colored glasses her tweet and despite your best efforts, it will be taken at face value. Not to mention, what you are saying does not make much sense. How were here 1st A being impinged upon and how will Blinken impinge on them in the future? The silliness of this can't be overstated. Anyway, valiant effort man. Perhaps, you should apply to be her spokeperson. Peace out.
     
  3. charlie15

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    Man, you keep repeating the same thing but that does not make it true. Being critical of Blinken is equivalent to him suppressing her 1st A rights? Do you really realize how stupid and insane this sound?

    That is the same woman who booed HRC on stage a few months ago during the primaries to a point that Bernie had to remove her from his surrogate list. She has no filters.
     
  4. soccernutter

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    Geez, I guess it's a good thing I'm not on twitter, or I would be in this argument as well.
     
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  5. Yoshou

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    The Democratically controlled House literally passed a bill denouncing anti-Semiticism and she had multiple members of the Democratic leadership demand her apology as a direct response previous comments she made that were critical of Israel. That is 100% an impingement upon her 1st Amendment rights. So, yes. She should be concerned that it would happen again.

    I know... It's extremely silly that I have to explain to someone who is allegedly clued into politics why a Muslim American should be concerned that after previously having her 1st Amendment right impinged upon would continue to be concerned about it.
     
  6. charlie15

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    I guess the irony of your statement really flied over your head , a muslim American, who happens to be a congressperson is concerned that her 1st A rights are impinged upon. Irony is dead. Anyway, I give up man. You " won". I am totally convinced.
     
  7. Yoshou

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    My only question is how you can possibly say a Muslim American, who happens to be a congressperson, did not have their 1st Amendment right impinged upon when the US Congress passed a bill denouncing Antisemitism as a direct response to her perfectly valid criticism of Israel? It just boggles my mind how you could come to the conclusion they weren't.
     
  8. Yoshou

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    And I'm an idiot because it was actually Rep. Omar that made the comments that triggered the resolution from the House and not Tlaib. But regardless, it is entirely understandable why Tlaib would be concerned about it happening to her as well.
     
  9. charlie15

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    I rest my case.................
     
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  10. Yoshou

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    Unless you are admitting defeat and retracting the last few pages of comments, no, you don't. You are still pushing the narrative that a Muslim American, who happens to be a congressperson, can't be concerned about her 1st Amendment rights impinged upon when a colleague and close friend, who also happens to be a Muslim American congressperson, had her 1st Amendment rights impinged upon.
     
  11. bigredfutbol

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    Indeed.
    Congressional resolutions:

    1) are not an infringement of free speech; and
    2) do not come from the State Department
     
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  12. bigredfutbol

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    There are multiple factions to what could broadly be considered 'the left' in American politics.
     
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  13. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    One thing I don't get about all The Squad criticism. Not many care that a Republican-lite, sorta Democrat like Manchin is representing his Whitelandian constituency. Even if it has meant him fondling Wrinkly Orange Balls at times. But somehow it's odd for these women to push for immigrant & economic rights plus worry about how their constituents are policed in their own neighborhoods. Talk about un-American.
     
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  14. charlie15

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    You just tripped over yourself peddling misleading and false information to try to rationalize an indefensible tweet..... You are really amusing....Keep twisting yourself into a pretzel again.
     
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  15. soccernutter

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    Let me be a bit more blunt. Since this is all about Talib, and also because no tweet was posted, take it to PMs or another thread.
     
  16. dapip

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    That’s how I feel:

    1331040603551895552 is not a valid tweet id



    Now the challenge is to undo all the damage Trumpsters caused. It’s like Republican voters didn’t learn anything from Reagan and Bush’s legacies, so they’ll have to learn it from Trump’s.









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  17. soccernutter

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    Even more than that. It is people with a lot of experience. And listening to the Politics Podcast, that really needs to be done. There needs to be somebody that Biden knows and trusts, who has lots of experience in the arena, and who has experience in some leadership position in Big Government. I think this is why Buttgieg was not named as UN Ambassador. I'm also wondering if that is why Susan Rice has not yet been named to anything.
     
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  18. bigredfutbol

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    I did post a link to the tweet, that's why it's being discussed. And it concerns the Biden cabinet.
     
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  19. bigredfutbol

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    Probably. I suspect there have been some behind the scenes with Buttigieg, who really earned points for being such a strong campaign advocate. He's playing a long game.
     
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  20. Yoshou

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    Ehhh... Manchin gets a lot of criticism from the Left.. Is your concern that centrist Dems aren’t critical of him?
     
  21. charlie15

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    I guess Biden is trying to avoid an early fight with the Senate.
     
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  22. Yoshou

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    I’m not peddling anything. I accidentally thought it was Tlaib that got sanctioned when it was Omar. I even corrected myself. The fact that it was Omar that caused the resolution to get passed doesn’t change the basic facts of the situation and why Tlaib would apply it to herself. A fellow female Muslim congressperson had her 1st Amendment rights impinged upon, primarily because of her gender and religion. It isn’t hard given that Tlaib is also a female Muslim to see why she would also feel her rights were also impinged upon.

    But hey, you keep on defending Israel from valid criticisms just because the SoS is Jewish. That says a whole lot more about you than Tlaib.
     
  23. charlie15

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    You tripped over yourself making up stories. The idea that Tlaib will get her 1st A rights trampled by a new SOS nominee is not only hyperbolic, but absurd and downright ignorant, specially coming from a member of congress. There is zero situation where Blinken would suppress her1A rights.

    Beyond that, I was not expecting that level of dishonestly from you. I guess I was wrong. You are a downright liar. I want you to point out what I ever said to defend Israel from valid criticisms in that convo. I am waiting patiently.
     
  24. bigredfutbol

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    I reckon the Georgia runoffs are figuring into his calculations. He's going to do his best to help Warnock and Ossof.
     
  25. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    Since the Left gets little media attention (what they get is mostly negative), it's not really amplified. If Manchin switched to Republican in the last 4 years nobody would've been shocked and only the Left would've given him shit about it.
     
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