Best way to build strength for soccer

Discussion in 'Youth & HS Soccer' started by mopdogsoc, Apr 6, 2023.

  1. mopdogsoc

    mopdogsoc Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Mar 16, 2021
    What's the best way for a 16 year old boy to build strength for soccer, keeping in mind that he is still growing? I have heard resistance training is the way to go because it keeps the player lean and helps for speed. But I have been looking at the u16 players on the top academies and they are definitely lifting weights based on their muscles. A friend who was a top college player recommended water resistance training. The high school coaches prefer kids to lift weights. Anyway, if a kid knows he needs to get stronger, what's the best way to go about it?
     
  2. NewDadaCoach

    NewDadaCoach Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Sep 28, 2019
    He doesn't need massive muscles. Do the basics: squats, burpees, calf lifts. And then focus on other stuff like balance and agility, sprints and endurance (should be able to do a mile in about 6 mins). But mostly focus on developing technique and IQ in my opinion.
     
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  3. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm no expert, but I'd focus on core strength.
     
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  4. smontrose

    smontrose Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Aug 30, 2017
    Illinois, NW Suburb
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If your kid, boy or girl has hit puberty and they're serious about the sport they need to be in the weight room.
    Strength,agility, and conditioning are separate and all important.
    In my day as an endurance athlete we did a lot of low weight high rep stuff which didn't improve us.
    Several years later as a coach we pushed our swimmers to focus on developing strength which made measurable improvement.
    To me, strength makes everything better.
    I got my kid in the weight room at 15. First year we focused on a smooth transition then proper form, doing Olympic type lifts- squat,deadlift,bench, and single legged variations. Only late that first year(3 month winterplan,) did we start to maximize lifts.
    Year two, transition, then maximize gains, then more power movements with faster bar speed.
    Year three, less focus on Max strength, and focus on ballistic lifts focusing more on power and power to speed. Started to combine this into agility movements and plyo.
    This winter, he was focused as much on upper body. It's making a difference. We were starting to get into contrast training but have been lucky enough to meet a pro level performance coach. Since the kid is already a beast focus is now on soccer specific coordination and economy.
    Probably should have been working on that all along but not sure if I have the knowledge to be detailed enough.
    This is a physical game, players need to prepare to the best of their ability.
    Do not trust your club coaches to provide any guidance for what to do individually. We never got one suggestion. Just those stupid videos during Covid.
    Getting stronger can prevent injuries and is a good confidence booster.
    My kid is playing against guys who are all older with college careers under their belts. Because of his strength my kid has no fears when he steps on the field.
    There are many routes to take here and I think it depends on what your kid needs, what they will enjoy working on, perhaps relative to their position and how they like to play.
    Technical- Tactical-Physical-Mental.
    You need a complete plan and remember your club and lazy DOC and coach are only part of that
     
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  5. SF19

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    Jun 8, 2013
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  6. CornfieldSoccer

    Aug 22, 2013
    This has always frustrated me. I'd add HS coaches in there, too, since they have access to weight-training facilities but, in my son's experience, did next to nothing with it. I'd guess the short HS season and the need to get a roster of kids who don't all play soccer full time up to some kind of game speed are the reasons, but frustrating nonetheless.
     
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  7. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I understand your point, but given what a compressed schedule HS soccer is and what a grind the whole season is, I can understand the coach leaving it up the kids to take care of conditioning on their own (if at all).
     
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  8. CornfieldSoccer

    Aug 22, 2013
    I get it, but I'd always hoped the summer practices ahead of the fall season here would include some weight training and a little more every week once they started playing. It always seemed like a missed opportunity.

    But from the perspective of the coaches, I'm sure the half of the roster that showed up for summer practices out of shape and/or lacking soccer experience needed running and touches above all else.
     
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  9. mopdogsoc

    mopdogsoc Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Mar 16, 2021
    I must say I am confused about what he should focus on right now. Even though he (starting at 15) plays UPSL on a very good team and hangs in there due to great speed of play, he wasn't on varsity at school and was told it's because he's too skinny. So I talked to an athletic trainer we know (who does a bunch of professional athletes in all different sports) and he said he wouldn't start him on weights because he is still growing height wise. He said to focus on resistance training to build strength. And I know Tom Brady has a big thing about resistance training. Anyway, I really don't know who is right, but I do know he would definitely benefit from getting stronger.
     
  10. mopdogsoc

    mopdogsoc Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Mar 16, 2021
    I will check this out. Maybe this is similar to the Tom Brady resistance type of training.
     
  11. CornfieldSoccer

    Aug 22, 2013
    Sorry if my mention of weight training created confusion. I say weights mainly because the school coaches always had access to decent weight-training equipment. And I'm by no means an expert -- my son likes resistance bands quite a bit after working a little with an outside trainer.

    FWIW, based on watching a lot of soccer through his teen years, any kind of core work for balance and the ability to take (and deliver) contact seems smart to me.
     
  12. NewDadaCoach

    NewDadaCoach Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Sep 28, 2019
    #12 NewDadaCoach, Apr 11, 2023
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2023
    Mostly UPSL will be a much higher level than a high school team. So most likely the HS coach is a typical one who really doesn't understand the game very deeply. Or he is more traditional American and values physicality over technique.
    Personally I believe in focusing more on technique. But of course you must have good speed and stamina. As far as being "buff" or whatever... not too necessary. Look at Pulisic, the best American player, he's kinda skinny, at 5'10" and weighing about 160 lbs.
    And he's playing in the Premier League and for the National Team.

    Even some of the USA's best players of the past, like Landon Donovan and Clint Dempsey, where somewhat diminutive in stature (Donovan was not skinny I would say, but short, and Dempsey was tall but thin).
    The more thicker or muscular Americans aren't exactly the best. Eg Gyasi Zardes or Jordan Morris.

    If you look more globally then you'll see a very wide range of bodies but certainly a large number of thin players like Iniesta, Phil Foden, Dembele, or Neymar, etc etc. Too many to list.
     
  13. NewDadaCoach

    NewDadaCoach Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Sep 28, 2019
    Also it depends on his position and their style. A striker or a goalie for example would benefit from some mass. A winger less so.
     
  14. smontrose

    smontrose Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Aug 30, 2017
    Illinois, NW Suburb
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's good advice for a kid expecting considerable growth ..
    For the rest, forget about what you think phil foden is or isn't doing.
    Let ok at what can give your kid the advantage now or getting to the next level.
    Go check out some top tier D1 games. It's fast physical and balls out.
    99.9 percent of your kids teammates have jelly arms and can't do 3 quality push ups ..
    It is a low hurdle to be better than everyone else.
    Any plan will help your kid
     
  15. NewDadaCoach

    NewDadaCoach Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Sep 28, 2019
    Most likely the UPSL coach is a better evaluator of talent than the HS coach.
    A lot of top clubs don't even let their kids play HS soccer.
    That said some weightlifting won't hurt. Can take supplements and eat more to add mass.
     
  16. NewDadaCoach

    NewDadaCoach Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Sep 28, 2019
    I saw this video on twitter and thought it was appropriate here. It's this kid who "is barely 13 yrs old" who plays on the Philly Union academy. In the vid apparently he's playing with the 17s against 19s if I'm understanding the caption. Apparently his older brother plays for the MLS Union team.
    The kid is the short one with blond hair. You can see he's small but he has high technical ability and good iQ. finding the space to dribble into, using agility, or releasing the ball quickly. Gets pushed around a bit but this shows you don't need to be physically massive to compete.


    I personally was a more physical player in HS but I also did not learn good technique. I will teach my kid technique as the main priority. The way to go against bigger opponents is to use your agility advantage (due to lower) and to use your body to shield ball. If you get knocked down then you earn the free kick.
     
  17. mopdogsoc

    mopdogsoc Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Mar 16, 2021
    That Sullivan kid has insane skills. Very impressive. As for position, my son was mainly a winger but the last year he has been put at striker a lot. He prefers wing or CAM though. He is doing some extra practices with a new team with a very good, very experienced coach and is again being put at striker. So, his positions are very fluid. He also likes and is good at LB.
     
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  18. smontrose

    smontrose Member

    Real Madrid
    Italy
    Aug 30, 2017
    Illinois, NW Suburb
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    More anecdotal outliers ...
    It's not either or... Need to have max focus on all aspects of preparation.
    I'm not talking gaining mass... And if it was that easy everyone would look like Arnold.
    But suit yourselves
     

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