Best Striker At Their Prime?

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by Bavarian14, Dec 27, 2018.

  1. Isaías Silva Serafim

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Dec 2, 2021
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    For you to see the disparity between the strikers of Bundesliga and Série A

    Okay, he can be a more complete "footballer" on that sense but being more complete doesn't make you better overall. Prime for prime R9 is surely the more capable player of changing the outcome of a match with little help from his teammates
     
  2. Isaías Silva Serafim

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Dec 2, 2021
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Yeah it's always about his age. He's too good for his age but not the best overall. It reminds me of Michael Owen
     
  3. Al Gabiru

    Al Gabiru Member+

    Jan 28, 2020


    Roberto Dinamite vs Flamengo (one of his most iconic matches)

    approximate stats

    Passes: 11/12
    Big chance created: 1 (2:00)
    Key passes: 2 (2:00, 2:48)
    Crosses: 2
    Aerial duels won: 1/4 (3:00)
    Dribbles: 1/3 (3:07)
    Possession lost: 7
    Shots on target: 2/5 (1: 17, 4:14, 5:23, 6:45. 8:40)
    Blocked shot: 4 (2:15, 2:42, 2:52, 6:24)
    Goals: 1 (5:23, 6:45)
    Was caught offside: 2 (1:41, 6:15)
    Fouls won: 1 (2:34)

    Of the nine shots he took in the match, eight were from free kicks. The summary does not include his defensive contributions.

    AI analysy:

     
  4. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024















    AI analysy from Ronaldo Nazario de Lima ???????
     
  5. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    Baggio doesn't to represent nothing

    Limited player. Not a full player. Limited in ability to make moves.


    the majority Of goals made by Set-Pieces ..penalties and free-kick taking


    Baggio is over-Rated to the extreme at all !
     
  6. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    I see no disparity whatsoever.

    What I'm seeing is that you're a suck-up to newer players

    sounds until halfway hides croquette !
     
  7. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  8. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    yes ...
    We need to combat these narratives that are created in Barcelona...

    that Barcelona players

    are the cradle of pure art and the only one place with incredible magic in World football...

    Pure nonsense vision .

    that all other players need to bow to



    Lionel Messi , Diego Armando Maradona , Johan Cruyff, Andres Iniesta , Neymar Jr , Ronaldinho Gaucho, Ronaldo Nazario de Lima , Romário, Lamine Yamal and Laudrup Michael ....etc,,etc,,etc,.

    that no one can technically replicate these players at their Peak

    which are very good for our bodies senses


    Pure lies and pure nonsense talk .


    Honestly, I don't support Barcelona.
    So I want Barcelona to explode.
    And ******** off.

    on my view !


    yes Genius Olise is better than Lamine Yamal ..



    more complete easily !
     
  9. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    Genius Olise

    yes The New Ruud Gullit with mixed from Arjen Robben and Rob Rensenbrink all together !
     
  10. Al Gabiru

    Al Gabiru Member+

    Jan 28, 2020
    The idea was to pick one of the player's best games ("iconic matches"), not the worst ones.

    96/97 Spanish super cup Ronaldo (19 years old) vs Atletico madrid (one of his most iconic matches)



    approximate stats

    Passes: 8/9
    Big chance created: 1 (4:00)
    Key passes: 1 (4:00)
    Crosses: 1/1 (2:35)
    Aerial duels won: 0
    Dribbles: 5/9 (0:19, 1:32, 3:12, 3:36;, 3:58)
    Possession lost: 3
    Shots on target: 4/5 (0:00, 0:21, 1:40, 6:31)
    Goals: 2 (0:21, 6:31)
    assist: 1 (4:00)
    Was caught offside: 0
    Fouls won: 3 (1:05. 3:16, 5:04)

     
  11. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    but Where is ????


    the defensive actions from Ronaldo Nazario de Lima


    INterceptions
    Tackles won %
    clearances
    defensive blocks
    slide blocks
    defensive covers
    defensive Headers Won %
    winning the second ball
    duels won on the ground ???????
     
  12. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/V4NAS5XLgyU
     
  13. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  14. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  15. Sexy Beast

    Sexy Beast Member+

    Dinamo Zagreb
    Croatia
    Aug 11, 2016
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    We kind of talked about this already in terms of dribbling of Yamal, Mbappe and Vinicius.

    I will say the same thing: it is just a matter of time and normal course of events before he eclipses everyone in the world by some margin. At that point, it is only a matter of form on month to month basis.

    But even then people will deny it of course, as always. "He didn't score in x or y match." That is nonsense.
     
  16. Isaías Silva Serafim

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Dec 2, 2021
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Well Mbappé will be remembered as the best player of 20s. He's going to break all WC and CL records until 2030 at least. Yamal will be the Neymar of 10s, maybe the player with the most talent but he's too busy with social media to actually do on the pitch what he says. As the saying goes: those who talk a lot do little or A barking dog doesn't bite. He has already been pocketed by Nuno Mendes against Portugal and PSG more than once after he spoke too loudly, and he was pocketed by Carreras at Benfica and Real Madrid. He opened his mouth before the game against Atlético and even posted a picture of LeBron in 2016 just to get eliminated and embarrassed.
     
  17. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    Genius Olise and Harry Kane

    the PSG Team ..current years with Luis Enrique

    can be too harsh to beat up them ... even to both Lamine Yamal and Mbappé ...


    They are lucky

    that they play
    for national football teams

    Top of the Top in the entire World !



    sounds for me ..from being more +++ new Ronaldinho Gaucho " Lamine Yamal "

    Lots of skill
    but little total football

    Players who completely undermine teamwork and work-rate.

    in the name of a false art of playing football


    But Lamine Yamal ..

    at least ..

    He is more decisive and a better goalscorer than Ronaldinho Gaúcho.
     
  18. Betrayed@Krondor

    Jul 11, 2023
    This is all so ********ing lazy:

     
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  19. Sexy Beast

    Sexy Beast Member+

    Dinamo Zagreb
    Croatia
    Aug 11, 2016
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    How did he embarrass himself? By scoring and creating chances?

    You are not rational.
     
  20. Sexy Beast

    Sexy Beast Member+

    Dinamo Zagreb
    Croatia
    Aug 11, 2016
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    No teamwork or work rate?

    Literally against the game vs Atletico. Intercepts the pass and scores.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/tKrCn0fRkws?si=5O9yCrT81MUdkl80
     
  21. Sexy Beast

    Sexy Beast Member+

    Dinamo Zagreb
    Croatia
    Aug 11, 2016
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Many terrible football takes here as always. I used to think that hardcore fans on football forums would be more perceptive, understand the ball better than average fan and geniune/honest. It is the same mediocrity of observations and understanding as casual fans, but just more active with more factual knowledge.

    Team wins = everybody played well,
    Team loses = everybody played poorly.

    Always the same story - outcome bias.
     
  22. Sexy Beast

    Sexy Beast Member+

    Dinamo Zagreb
    Croatia
    Aug 11, 2016
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
  23. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    I saw this Lance but ...

    Lamine Yamal ...

    already has two pathetic eliminations from the UEFA Champions League

    against Inter
    and Atleti

    you're picking up on a sporadic play
     
  24. Isaías Silva Serafim

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Dec 2, 2021
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Come-on he thought he were LeBron 2016 lol he put this profile picture precisely because of the greatest ever remontada in history of NBA. Barça needed a remontada to advance in champions league. He even said "let's see if Simeone puts someone 1v1 with me in the game". Just to be knocked out lol
     
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  25. Isaías Silva Serafim

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Dec 2, 2021
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Again, good for his age, but not actually the best
     
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