Best Striker At Their Prime?

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by Bavarian14, Dec 27, 2018.

  1. Isaías Silva Serafim

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Dec 2, 2021
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    All club competitions from 15/16 onwards

    Ibrahimovic 15/16 8.01
    Benzema 21/22 7.82
    Lewa 19/20 7.78
    Kane 24/25 7.76
    Kane 23/24 7.70
    Suarez 15/16 7.67
    Lewa 20/21 7.67
     
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  2. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  3. Al Gabiru

    Al Gabiru Member

    Jan 28, 2020
    Ibra is a bit underrated. His repertoire of assists and playmaking is insane for a centre-forward.

     
  4. SayWhatIWant

    SayWhatIWant Member+

    Jan 10, 2015
    Harry Kane :ROFLMAO:
     
  5. SayWhatIWant

    SayWhatIWant Member+

    Jan 10, 2015
    I'm rewatching Inter vs Barca 2010 2nd leg. Pep had no idea how to use him. Completely lost
     
  6. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    Marco Marco Materazzi disagree this ..totally ..


    Ibra ... He's a good player yes .. but good for the Championships ...

    But in Big Matches ... simply .. we wouldn't be counting with Him..

    never never never ... whole Career .. just only 1 Uefa Cup .. by Marco Materazzi !
     
  7. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    Will be the same ????
     
  8. SayWhatIWant

    SayWhatIWant Member+

    Jan 10, 2015

    Ronaldo reinventing himself into the best striker - to me - is the highest compliment I can pay him. Far from a diss, it elevates his status in my eyes.
    And I may add there is way more worth in his ability to guarsntee goals and hence a win even in the toughest of circumstances by leveraging his skillsets than combining backpasses and losing the ball 60% of the time when trying to ball hog in midfield
     
  9. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  10. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    Denis Law is a Player that I liked to see him playing yes,


    Denis Law was equals Paolo Rossi and F. Inzagui ..


    But much more complete than both of them..


    Law had incredible Bravery and Work Rate Job...

    had Agility and Stamina . like Di Stefano ..
    had great Technique and good skills as well ..
    great Heading Accuracy + at the right Time in the air
    great Decisions
    great Shot Technique .. " volleys and OverHead Kicks "

    Plays one-Twos
    Sprint Speed younger
    higher Determination
    Team Work
    composure
    Flair Of Goal
    Defensive Covers
    Tackles
    Positioning
    Anticipation
    Jumping Reach
    Leadership/good Personality
    ambi-dextrous feet



    really pretty Good !
     
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  11. Sexy Beast

    Sexy Beast Member+

    Dinamo Zagreb
    Croatia
    Aug 11, 2016
    Zagreb
    Club:
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    Croatia
    They've been changing algorithms. It is not comparable 1 to 1. They changed in 2017 and then 2022 again i think
     
  12. Tropeiro

    Tropeiro Member+

    Jun 1, 2018
    #1937 Tropeiro, Apr 8, 2025
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2025
    You wish.

    CR7 as a striker is a flawed player and borderline detrimental for a team, R9 isn't.

    A basic 9 should be good with the back to the goal, protecting the ball there and had the link up play from there, that's a very basic skillset for a 9 where Cristiano never felt comfortable to perform and never at required level... he played as a false 9 (more of a inside forward receiving on the left, especially with Benzema) or as a 9 in a highly oriented counter attack team to exploit his pace, so Cristiano Ronaldo was never a real stiker, only in controlled circumstances. If a team will need a striker, do you think they would look for Cristiano Ronaldo? Thats a ManUnited 2022 level of thinking. I would even look for someone good enough like Dzeko much before than CR7, at least he could play there.

    R9 on the other hand could protect the ball under pressure with the back to the goal, turn with the ball with easy. It was natural for him.
    More so, R9 was a better dribbler than Cristiano Ronaldo in central areas, stronger and had better shot placement than Cristiano.

    You totally can argue CR7 as a better player to R9 is thats all fine, but thats him on his position and role. You guys need to wake up for the reality sometimes.
     
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  13. SayWhatIWant

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    Jan 10, 2015
    Everything here is wrong. Ronaldo has operated as a true out and out striker for many years now.
     
  14. SayWhatIWant

    SayWhatIWant Member+

    Jan 10, 2015
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    Will provide a more complete data history for messi / ronaldo, but the trends and story told stands.
     
  15. carlito86

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    Jan 11, 2016
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  16. carlito86

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    #1941 carlito86, May 18, 2025
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  17. carlito86

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  18. Ronaldo 96-97
     
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  19. carlito86

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  20. carlito86

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    #1946 carlito86, Jun 3, 2025
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    Zlatan ibrahimovic 2011/12 would be a borderline extraterrestrial playing in Serie A today

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    It says a lot about the overall quality of football today that this pitiful version of Serie A produced a champions league finalist
    one that put 7 goals past La liga champions Barcelona

    Yeah it is true peak Barcelona conceded 7 goals in a CL SF tie before

    but that was against a Bayern Munich team that is widely considered to be one of the best club teams in European football history

    Maybe even the best
     
  21. SayWhatIWant

    SayWhatIWant Member+

    Jan 10, 2015
    The difference is tactically these new coaches and players do not defend.
    Inter Milan produced 7 tackles WHILE losing, whereas a decade ago (sampling random matches), you'd get on the order 20+ tackles from each team (total of near 50).
     
  22. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
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    #1948 carlito86, Jun 3, 2025
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    The inter Milan that almost won the treble vs the inter Milan team that actually won the treble
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    Or even taking it further back
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    The interception data is obviously incomplete for the 2003/04 UCL season but look at the difference in tackles per game !!!!

    That was the inter Milan defence Thierry Henry laid complete waste to by the way

    Even Thierry Henry who was notoriously ineffective in finals in his era would probably put 5 goals past this version of inter Milan by himself
    No kidding and no exaggeration
     
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  23. SayWhatIWant

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    Jan 10, 2015
    I love Lamine. I think he is a special talent. But what ppl don't understand is a lanky build like his (which allows him to have the agility to bob and weave between players) would break in 15min on a pitch in the old days.
     
  24. carlito86

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    #1950 carlito86, Jun 4, 2025
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2025
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