Best Striker At Their Prime?

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by Bavarian14, Dec 27, 2018.

  1. Mmm, this isnot as funny as your first insult, and hasnot a link with football :(
    You can do better than that:unsure:
     
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  2. benficafan3

    benficafan3 Member+

    Nov 16, 2005
    Let's all temper ourselves gentlemen, myself included. No need to attack one another.
     
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  3. Frank73

    Frank73 Member

    Inter Milan
    Brazil
    Mar 22, 2025
    Italy
    I am instead afraid you can't do better than these 12 years old child puns.
     
  4. That's the spirit;)
     
  5. Frank73

    Frank73 Member

    Inter Milan
    Brazil
    Mar 22, 2025
    Italy
    Ok but if you go back to beginning of discussion, you'll see the dutchman was the first to use disrespectful words.
     
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  6. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    World transfers Records fee :

    1984 [​IMG] Diego Maradona (2) [​IMG] Barcelona ................ Napoli 5,000,000[26]


    1987 [​IMG] Ruud Gullit [​IMG] PSV Eindhoven ............... Milan 6,000,000[26]


    1990 [​IMG] Roberto Baggio [​IMG] Fiorentina ............ Juventus 8,000,000[26]


    1992 [​IMG] Jean-Pierre Papin [​IMG] Marseille ............. Milan 10,000,000[26]


    1992 [​IMG] Gianluca Vialli [​IMG] Sampdoria ......... Juventus 12,000,000[26]


    1992 .............. Gianluigi Lentini ............. Torino ....... Milan 13,000,000[26]


    1996 .......... Ronaldo (1) .. PSV Eindhoven .......... Barcelona 13,200,000[26]
     
  7. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    I agree with you dear Mate !

    There's no point in arguing with someone who didn't actually watch the entire AC Milan matches from 1987-1995.


    They will disagree with You as a joker person !
     
  8. benficafan3

    benficafan3 Member+

    Nov 16, 2005
    [​IMG]
     
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  9. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    friendly ghosts hahaha !!!
     
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  10. carlito86

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    :laugh:
     
  11. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  12. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  13. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RW_R4xENABM






    Well, I don't see this in the same way you do about Arjen Robben. Regarding his overall higher level, but I respect him at Least .

    Yes,

    There may indeed be football fans who like him for sure .

    But that's not my case

    in my life-time honestly speaking to you !
     
  14. Al Gabiru

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    Jan 28, 2020
  15. Al Gabiru

    Al Gabiru Member+

    Jan 28, 2020
    other record holder (1. Top Speed. 2. in world cups 3. with the ball)

     
  16. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  17. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  18. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  19. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
    2025–26[404] Bundesliga 27 32 5 7 — 11[e] 12 1[h] 1 44 52



    Harry Kane better than Nazario also !



    44 Matches

    52 Goals !
     
  20. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  21. Al Gabiru

    Al Gabiru Member+

    Jan 28, 2020
    Ranking by the Spanish newspaper AS

    https://as.com/futbol/fotorrelato/los-50-mejores-jugadores-de-los-mundiales-f/
     
  22. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024









    I was looking this video Carlito 86 !



    honestly speaking to you


    I didn't know that the Dutch player named Mario Been

    was such a good player.



    He looks like a Bergkamp

    Much more skillful



    has nice Plays

    from Mario Been and Ruud Gullit ..

    a alot Of dribbles ..there


    Gullit crossing like Beckham David

    with a whole bunch of curves back-spin on the ball


    Long Shots like C. Ronaldo

    free-kicks goals !!


    really nice Video !
     
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  23. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

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    France
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  24. Isaías Silva Serafim

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Dec 2, 2021
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I see what you're getting at with the consistency argument, but there’s a massive logical gap there. If we’re saying Messi is a GOAT candidate because he has both the World Cup and the Champions League, that’s fair. But if we’re saying Cristiano isn't a candidate because he "only" dominated the highest level of club football for 20 years, we’re essentially turning the GOAT debate into a "Did you win this specific 7-game tournament?" debate.The problem with focusing so much on the World Cup is that it rewards birth certificates more than individual ability. Pelé had a legendary squad around him and Messi eventually got that too. Cristiano took a Portugal team that had rarely even qualified for major tournaments before him and turned them into a consistent threat, winning a European Championship and two Nations Leagues along the way. If you swap Cristiano’s nationality with a prime 1970 Brazil or 2022 Argentina, he likely has two World Cups and this conversation wouldn't even exist. Logical consistency should account for the context of the team, not just the trophy in the cabinet.

    Also, we have to look at the sheer scale of what he’s done. Even if you want to put Messi or Pelé ahead of him, being a candidate implies you belong in that top-tier conversation. When you hold the record for the most official goals in the history of the sport (>900), the most international goals, and the most Champions League goals, you’ve reached a level of statistical dominance that is literally unprecedented. If we disqualify the highest-scoring human to ever play the game from the Greatest conversation because he didn't win a specific tournament with Portugal, then the criteria for greatness has become too narrow. Being a GOAT candidate is about having a resume so massive that it's impossible to ignore. Whether it’s the five Ballon d'Ors, the five UCLs, or the fact that he's performed at a world-class level for two decades, his peaks and his longevity are both top-tier. You can't logically argue he's not a candidate when he holds almost every major individual record the sport has to offer
     

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