Best soccer player in America ("El Mundo" of Venezuela)

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  1. Titanlux

    Titanlux Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Nov 27, 2017
    For a long time I was trying to find more information about the election of the best soccer player in America, published by the Venezuelan newspaper "El Mundo" and today I found an interesting reference to the votes of the 1974 edition detailed by correspondents. I share it with you: Mejor America_redimensionar.jpg
     
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  2. Titanlux

    Titanlux Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Nov 27, 2017
    Complete classification of El Mundo in 1979:

    1. Diego Armando Maradona (Argentina, Argentinos Juniors (Arg)) 80 puntos.

    2. Julio César Romero “Romerito” (Paraguay, Sportivo Luqueño (Par)) 40 puntos.

    3. Paulo Roberto Falcao (Brasil, Internacional de Porto Alegre (Bra)) 29 puntos.

    4. Ubaldo Fillol (Argentina, River Plate (Arg)) 26 puntos.

    5. Artur Antunes Coimbra "Zico" (Brasil, Flamengo (Bra)) 15 puntos.

    6. Fernando Morena (Uruguay, Rayo Vallecano (Esp.)) 13 puntos.

    7. Carlos Caszely (Chile, Colo Colo (Chi.)) 11 puntos.

    8. Daniel Passarella (Argentina, River Plate (Arg.)) 9 puntos.

    Mario Alberto Kempes ( Argentina, Valencia C.F. (Esp.) 9 puntos.

    10. Ramón Díaz (Argentina, River Plate (Arg)) 7 puntos.

    11.- Elías Figueroa (Chile, Palestino (Chi)) 5 puntos.

    12. Héctor Chumpitaz (Perú, Sporting Cristal (Per.) 4 puntos

    Isasi, Evaristo (Paraguay, Olimpia (Par.) 4 puntos.

    14. Talavera, Hugo (Paraguay, Olimpia (Par.) 3 puntos.

    Morel, Eugenio (Paraguay, Libertad (Par.)) 3 puntos.

    16. Hugo Sánchez (México, Pumas UNAM (Méx.) 2 puntos.

    Ricardo Bochini (Argentina, Independiente (Arg.)) 2 puntos.

    Amaral (Brasil, Corinthians (Bra.)) 2 puntos.

    Roberto Dinamita (Brasil, Barcelona (Esp.)) 2 puntos.

    20.- Jorge González (El Salvador, FAS (Sal.)) 1 punto.

    Carlos Alberto Kiese (Paraguay, Olimpia (Par.)) 1 punto.

    Gerónimo Barbadillo (Perú, Tigres UA Nuevo León (Máx.)) 1 punto.

    Mario Galindo (Chile, Colo Colo (Chi.)) 1 punto.
     
  3. Vegan10

    Vegan10 Member+

    Aug 4, 2011
    This is a good topic to add the results of points of each year. However, most of the years prior to 1992 remain a mystery.

    Here, a rare picture of the golden ball winner of 1987: Carlos Valderrama

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  4. Titanlux

    Titanlux Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Nov 27, 2017
    Complete 1978 ranking
    El Mundo 1978 1.jpg El Mundo 1978 2.jpg
     
  5. Titanlux

    Titanlux Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Nov 27, 2017
    More detailed information by France Football

    El Mundo 1978 3.jpg El Mundo 1978 4.jpg
     
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  6. Vegan10

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    Aug 4, 2011
    El Mundo results for the 1982 year:

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    Guerin Sportivo
     
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  7. Vegan10

    Vegan10 Member+

    Aug 4, 2011
    1980 El Mundo results (Guerin Sportivo)
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  8. Vegan10

    Vegan10 Member+

    Aug 4, 2011
    Courtesy of Titanlux (I think) El Mundo 1975 results:

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  9. Titanlux

    Titanlux Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Nov 27, 2017
    Thank you very much for those contributions partner. Let's see if little by little we can get the complete votes of all the years.
     
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  10. Ariaga II

    Ariaga II Member

    Dec 8, 2018
    Interesting to see so many Central American players represented in the 80s lists. I'm going to guess it's a case of journos voting for their countrymen?
     
  11. Titanlux

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    Spain
    Nov 27, 2017
    This classification is from 1993 and was published by the now defunct magazine "Don Balon"; the survey was carried out by "El País", from Uruguay. I have not been able to find out if there were more players voted, nor who voted for whom. Does anyone know if the original source can be accessed somehow?

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  12. MJWizards

    MJWizards Member

    Aug 17, 2019
    This thread is amazing! Nothing on Guerino about 1981? @Vegan10
     
  13. Vegan10

    Vegan10 Member+

    Aug 4, 2011
    I will check but I think not.
     
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  14. MJWizards

    MJWizards Member

    Aug 17, 2019
    thanks mate!
     
  15. MJWizards

    MJWizards Member

    Aug 17, 2019

    So i was counting the points, giving 5 to the 1st place, 4 to the 2nd place and so on...and i got this

    39 - FIGUEROA
    26 - MARINHO
    22 - BABINGTON
    20 - PEREIRA
    16 - MORENA
    15 - PELE

    According to the newspaper and to RSSF, Pelè got the 5th place but i have him in the 6th position.
    The brazilian legend got 3 1st place votes (5+5+5=15 points), while Morena got x4 4th place (2+2+2+2) and 2x 2nd place (4+4)...so 16...

    Im missing something or its a mistake by the magazine?
     
  16. Titanlux

    Titanlux Member+

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    Spain
    Nov 27, 2017
    It is possible that in my accounts I would have been wrong, but Babington gives me 25 and Marinho 24. Indeed, Morena gives me 16 and Pelé 15.
     
  17. MJWizards

    MJWizards Member

    Aug 17, 2019
    I have done it again and this is what i got:

    39 - FIGUEROA
    24 - MARINHO
    22 - BABINGTON
    20 - PEREIRA
    16 - MORENA
    15 - PELE
    14 - BOCHINI
    11 - HOUSEMANN
    8 - CASZELY
    7 - RIVELINO
    6 - SOTIL
    5 - AHUMADA, ZICO, MIGUEL MARIN
    4 - RAIMONDO, BRINDISI, KEMPES
    3 - NELSINHO
    2 - ROJAS, JARA, REINOSO, AYALA, JAIRZINHO
    1 - VALDES, BIANCHI, MIFFLIN

    total points: 225

    It should be right this time. Indeed, there is a mistake with Pele and Morena. So its an error by El Mundo?
     
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  18. Titanlux

    Titanlux Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Nov 27, 2017
    You are correct in Babington's score. That of Morena and Pelé we agree. Surely, the newspaper would be wrong to publish that Pelé was 5th.
     
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  19. MJWizards

    MJWizards Member

    Aug 17, 2019
    Who is Valdemar Sans of Guadalajara? Cant find any info about him...typo maybe? @Vegan10
     
  20. Vegan10

    Vegan10 Member+

    Aug 4, 2011
    Never heard of him. Good call on that one.
     
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  21. peterhrt

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    Oct 21, 2015
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  22. peterhrt

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    Oct 21, 2015
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    Leeds United AFC
    It appears that Guadalajara were/are the one Mexican club not to allow foreign players. So if the club is correct, the player should be Mexican. Cannot find anyone with a similar name though.
     
  23. MJWizards

    MJWizards Member

    Aug 17, 2019
    So it must be a typo of Guerino i guess...right?
     
  24. peterhrt

    peterhrt Member+

    Oct 21, 2015
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    It could be. If so, it seems more likely the second name Sans is wrong.

    Maybe Mexican poster @tLB Odiseo can help.
     
  25. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    1980, Valdemar Sans, Guadalajara, Mexico o_O:thumbsdown:
     

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