Just found this. A great site - though with an English focus. http://www.freewebs.com/tims92/tims92home.htm Tons of great pictures, inside and out, include nice panoramas (aka centerfolds). Hucks House WTF? 26K Coventry City. 92 different stadiums. Good stuff. Mmmmmm, stadium porn.
Yes that's a good site, but picture wise it doesn't come close. And Stadium Porn is all about the pictures.
I don't know about you all but I seem to like Millwalls Den cause it looks kind of cozy it doesn't look very big but I think that it would fit perfect for our site.
Man i love the second website. We should most defenetly get a stadium like well all the good championship stadiums. Yeah Milwalls is nice so is Swansea and Watford. Also MK Dons is good to the bowl shape is very cozy and would make the atmosphere enticing.
The second site!?! WTF!? The ground guide is good if you want to figure out which tube stop to get off at, but most of us here won't have to worry about that. This is about porn and for pictures, footballgroundguide isn't worthy to carry Tim's sweaty jock. See for yourself, compare both site's pages on The Den. http://www.footballgroundguide.com/millwall.htm http://www.freewebs.com/tims92/051millwall.htm Tim's the Larry Flint of Stadium Porn.
The thing with Millwall is that the Den was built on the cheap so its very plastic and very basic inside the stands, not to mention their fans and the fact that its positioned right in the middle of a part of London that makes Baghdad look safe. Swansea's ground is nice, but then to be honest all the new stadiums look much the same, Reading, Southampton, Leicester, Middlesborough, Derby, Hull, Coventry, Darlington, McDonalds - all souless bowls that once youve seen one youve seen them all. What you want is a ground with 4 distinct stands, thats kept its original character and charm yet has superb facilities and a great atmosphere - one like Carrow Road for example
that is funny but can you explain a little bit more about this, and I understand that it's fans are known to be a little agressive but how bad is it, really
The Millwall fans sing 'No one likes us, we don't care' and that kinda sums them up really. Hooliganism is almost completely gone from the English game, the only way you'll find trouble is if you really go looking for it. Whilst every other club has cleaned itself up and improved its image Millwall has been left in the dark ages. Personally I've never had a problem there but then to be honest Norwich have never had a real problem with anyone, you just dont get trouble at Norwich games - even the derby games are tame - its part of the reason we sell out every single week and pack 25,000 into Carra Rud, whereas Millwall struggle to sell 5,000. Its just that the whole place is intimidating, the ground is wedged in between two railway lines, backing on to industrial units and council estates and tower blocks. There is a tension that you just dont get at other grounds, you can never really relax. The Millwall fans love the repuatation to be honest and i guess part of it is playing up to it
Cool very interesting stuff friend ..... by the way WELCOME TO OUR BOARDS ! ! ! and it is an honor and great pleasure to have all you Norwich/ Huckerby fans here with us ! ! ! we will really take good care of Darren in his tenure here in San Jose speaking as a support group member. So the capacity in your stadium is 25,000 is that correct ?
Don't worry, I just look at the pictures and he's pretty good with a camera. We've had lots of discussions here about stadium desgin and we've looked at lots of pictures. It's interesting how many of the new English stadiums seem to have no soul compared to the older ones.
Milwall isn't bad, but I'm not a big fan of the huge corner gaps...I guess I prefer the completed circuit of the bowl-style stadiums. I know there are some here who are adamant about not having corners, the argument that the team could fit in more "good" seats by putting them on the touchlines rather than in the corners. But in addition to soccer, I watch a ton of ice hockey... and sitting in a corner never bothered me at the Shark tank. I personally like the feel of the bowl style roofed stadiums...it holds in the sound and feels more intimate and "connected" than the big open-air style stadiums like we see in Dallas, Chicago, Columbus, LA, etc. I think that Red Bull New York has hit the jackpot with their new stadium design. I really like the design of the Liecester City stadium. It's a single-bowl design, with a really cool and modern looking glass exterior facade that would highlight the near-perfect San Jose weather. And while it is about a third too large for us, I think a smaller version of it would be beautiful in San Jose. I agree with you on the MK Dons stadium. Very nicely done. It resembles Coventry City's Ricoh Arena, which also looks nice. Thanks to FUAEG for starting this thread. Its been a few weeks ((gasp)) since we've talked about stadium design, and I for one have missed the discussion!
Yeah thats about right, think its 25,500. The average is a bit less because Away teams dont always sell all their tickets but there are very few games when there are spaces in the Norwich parts of the ground. We've sold out of Season Tickets for something like the last 7 years which given that apart from 1 season when we won the league we've been pretty useless is amazing. The inbred BlueScum lot from Suffolk have a ground that holds 30,000 and yet struggle to get 20,000 fans Do away fans sit seperately at MLS games or do you all sit together? Its all down to the fans, I've sat in the same seat at Carra Rud for 12 years, I know everyone around me, I know what to sing and when to sing it, we all come up with new songs that mostly get laughed at but occasionally one sticks and catches on. We go down the pub before games and we have a laugh. In new grounds everyone gets split up, there is no history, no atmosphere, the grounds are all the same and out of the city and everyone drives and as such its just not the same. It doesnt help that apart from the colour of the seats every new ground is exactly the same either!! I guess its also tradition, in the past British grounds were mostly 4 seperate stands each with its own identity and type of fans - with the new grounds because they are all bowl types they lose their identity a bit. At Norwich for example the River End is the family bit, the City stand is for the old gits who just want to moan, the South stand is where the middle age people go and the Barclay End is the noisey bit, the home terrace, the bit thats creates the atmosphere.
They try to keep them all CORRALED up in a certain area but there always seems to be a couple of them scattered within the stadium ...... for instance when we played the HATED SCUM from down south who happens to be the most hated rivalry for us L.A. Galaxy .... they put them in a section but there was still a lot of other people scattered wearing a beckham jersey
I too dont like the large gaps either. Liecester Citys too. Hulls KC is very cool. Recently done and nice.
aah Mr Raven, fancy seeing you here. Been meaning to tell you that if your next fb status includes the words '...and is off to Barbados in February' I will slap you! Dave
Our closest away fans come from the LA Galaxy In terms of distance, that would be the equivalent of Norwich to Edinburgh.
Yeah fair point, to be fair thats still more favourable than trying to get back from Torquay on a Tuesday night at 10pm in time to go to work on the Wednesday morning.
I love the picture, the stadium and the fans. Would you happen to know the dimensions offhand? For our long time fan, Richard. Cheers! http://www.freewebs.com/tims92/035hartlepoolunited.htm
I'll weigh in on this if I may. My wife and I travel to England at least once a season to take in a few matches. (We may have to give it a miss this year because of cash-flow issues). A couple of seasons ago we were in London on a match day when there were no Premiere League tickets to be had. We decided it would be fun to try a lower league match to get more of a "local" feel. Initially we didn't even consider Millwall because of its reputation. Based on some suggestions on other BS boards we decided to give it a go. First, I must admit, there was a larger police presence there than I've seen at any other game. The walk from the train to the ground is about five minutes, and we were never out of sight of large groups of police, some of them mounted in full riot gear. The match was against Nottingham Forrest, and, apparently, there is some history between them and Millwall. But the train station has a separate ramp from the platform directly to the away entrance so we never saw Forrest fans but at a distance. Overall, it was a great experience. There were plenty of families, dads with kids, etc. We never felt threatened or uncomfortable. The ground was only about half filled, but the crowd provided a great atmosphere. I must admit, I love the No One Likes Us song. On the pitch, Millwall is a hard-working blue-collar outfit that plays hard. In my opinion, League One is pretty close to MLS talent-wise. After the match there was some fist-shaking and f*ck-offs and who-are-ya's exchanged between the sets of fans, but, again at a safe distance from each other. The Forrest fans were escorted out of the stadium, up their ramp and put on their train before any Millwall supporters were allowed near the station. We've since been back one other time, last boxing-day against Brighton. The trains weren't running so we had to take a bus, which made it a bit more of an adventure. But, again, at no time did we feel nervous or in danger. Among the Brighton fans was a group of 8 or 9 Santas. After the match the Santas came walking against the flow right in middle of the exiting Millwall crowd! My wife and I braced for trouble. There was none. They got plenty of schtick, got called unpleasant names, maybe even got some liquid thrown at them, but no real trouble. A couple of men walking out next to us commented that five or ten years ago, they'd have been dead. Now, we pay to subscribe on-line to the Millwall match radio broadcasts. While I still consider myself primarily a Fulham supporter, my wife considers Millwall her team. Maybe dropping down divisions has mellowed out the rougher crowd. Maybe the fact that they don't draw such large crowds in League One is a factor. Also, we've sat in the "nice" seats on the West Side, not the Cold Blow Lane end where the more colorful crowd is. But overall, while there is evidence of the reputation Millwall "enjoys", we like going there and whenever we do manage to go back to England, Millwall's fixture list will be the first one we look at. All that being said, I can totally see where getting to, in and back out of the Den as an away supporter, wearing away colors might be stressful. I also must admit that if you hang out on some of their supporter message boards on line, you'll still run across some (as in a little bit of) unpleasant, anti-immigrant type of stuff. But A) no worse that you'd hear from the Bill OReilley types, and B) at the actual stadium we didn't hear any racist or unacceptable chants or songs.
Depends what you mean by dimensions.... The capacity is 26,034 and it has sold out for every home game for the last few seasons. The two-tier Barclay Stand (to the right of the picture and where the more vocal City fans sit) holds 6,125. The two-tier Norwich & Peterborough Stand (to the left of the pic and more commonly known as the River End) holds 5,799. The Geoffrey Watling Stand (directly in front of the pic) holds 2,243. The Jarrold Stand (the stand the pic is taken from) is now the biggest stand and holds 8,000. The Norwich Union Community Stand (out of shot but to the left of the pic and the infill between the Jarrold Stand and the Norwich & Peterborough Stand) holds 1,512.