I am not that much knowledgeable on this topic . But i think it would be an interesting discussion with many knowledgeable posters in this forum. What were the best Euro performances in the competition's history? i) Best individual campaign . Was it Platini's 1984 or Zidane's 2000 or some other performance in some other tournament? ii) What would the list of top 5 individual campaign in Euro history look like ? iii ) How about best Single match performances in the tournaments history? Platini's hattrick vs belgium , Zidane vs portugal etc comes to mind. What were the other all time great performances? (You may add other campaigns to the poll if you like)
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I'd go with this maybe 1 - Van Basten 1988 2 - Platini 1984 3 - Zidane 2000 4 - Tigana 1984 5 - Cruyff 1976 (only if factoring in some 'qualifying' games though - in the earlier editions the final tournaments were not very long at all, but he'd excelled in the games prior to that more than in those final games (in fact he didn't play vs Yugoslavia in the 3rd Place game either). Best games for Van Basten would IMO be vs England and West Germany. For Platini I think I had it down as the Portugal game plus either the Belgium one or Yugoslavia one (there was another thread on this kind of topic) For Zidane probably the semi-final vs Portugal as prime example IIRC, but not only that one. For Tigana I'd say the final games vs Portugal and Spain but he seems to be very good all the way through, both based on viewing footage and on the media ratings (he scored higher than Platini with France Football's scoring system even) For Cruyff, the Italy game at home might be my number 1 choice from the qualifying phase, but not to omit the Poland game/s and the Belgium games by the looks of it (I don't think I ever did see the full games or all his touches vs Belgium, and maybe it's not possible even though Footballia could be checked) For an XI maybe: 1 - Schmeichel 92 2 - Van Aerle 88 3 - Van Tiggelen 88 4 - Tigana 84 5 - Ondrus 76 6 - Beckenbauer 72 7 - Figo 2000 8 - Platini 84 9 - Van Basten 88 10 - Zidane 2000 11 - Cruyff 76 Maybe I'm generous to the Dutch full-backs from 88 there, but they both definitely did well I think. Maybe I shouldn't have picked two libero types in the middle of defence, but both came to mind anyway, as being good in the actual final games too.
Bit surprised that Van Basten 88 being at the top. Was it better than Platini's Euro ? (I haven't watched Euro 1988 actually) . Platini scored two hattricks and highest ever goal record despite being not a forward in 1984. Why was Van Basten 88 campaign better for you?
I think this might be the best thread, for my own views/attempted performance ratings, and also some contributions from others on your topic: European Championship players of the tournament 1968 - 2006 | Page 3 | BigSoccer Forum I probably have it as a close call between them, but yeah I feel like it wasn't peak playmaking Platini just with a goal avalanche added on if you know what I mean (although he always did score quite frequently anyway for his clubs of course, just not to this extent). As has been talked about by a few people on here, he played very much a goalscoring role, and a lot of the playmaking was carried out by Tigana and Giresse in support of him.
Also 6 more (why not) could be Rijkaard 88, Sammer 96, Iniesta 2012, Dzajic 68, Villa 2008, Suker 96 I'll stop there but that's most of the main ideas I'd have covered now probably. Maybe both Senna and Xavi from 2008 would also be in contention in midfield though potentially from that Spain team too, and Baresi 88 might be in with a chance among defenders I'd think perhaps.
I can't remember exactly what I concluded (and maybe I didn't review all of Zidane's games did I, the same way? - I'd probably seen more of Euro 2000 live than Euro 88 or certainly Euro 84 on the other hand). I think his highs might be fairly comparable (the Portugal game as prime example), and he did have a string of good/influential displays in general IIRC. I'd tend to think I'd give Van Basten the edge vs Zidane for the Final, even though I didn't rate it his best performance, because he probably had more good moments in general but certainly had outstanding key moments (most notably the famous goal). I'd say Totti outplayed Zidane on the other hand, and maybe Henry provided the most danger on the day for France too.
I honestly would say Platini as well. He scored in every game and had two perfect hat-tricks. In the final he scored with his only shot on goal. Platini had 9 goals and 1 assist (incl. one penalty), MvB had five goals and 2 assists (plus one goal incorrectly disallowed vs Ireland). Main thing you can say against Platini is that he played only one top ten opponent (by ELO) and was playing at home. This was Belgium, which missed half of their team. MvB played four times a top five opponent. It's harder to pass, dribble and do excellent/magical one touch stuff against better teams. Zidane is for me a candidate for #3, alongside several others.
Best tournament For the modern era Im inclined towards zinedine zidane in Euro 2000 Platini runs him close though If advanced statistics had been available someone like dragan dzajic in 1968 with his chance creation and wizardry would've probably taken top spot This to give a rough idea of what he was capable of(few months before the Euro championship 'proper') For best individual performance Gunter netzer vs England 1972 https://gameofthepeople.com/2019/01/11/netzer-vierundneunzig/ Michel Platini vs Yugoslavia 1984 https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/match/3453--france-vs-yugoslavia/postmatch/report/ Zidane vs Portugal 2000 90% - Zinedine Zidane completed 9 of the 10 dribbles he attempted vs. Portugal in the EURO 2000 semi-final. Magician. http://t.co/I96O9qu2— OptaJean (@OptaJean) June 2, 2012 Marco van basten vs England 1988 https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/marco-van-basten-games-changed-my-life Unfortunately i will have to be the one (again) to mention some contemporary examples of equal standing seeing as football for many here ceased to exist at some point in the mid 2000s Euro 2012 Pirlo shares the honour of best individual match performance with Cristiano Ronaldo, the former getting a mark of 8.80 for his exhibition of passing against England, the latter for his demolition job on Holland https://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/jul/02/euro-2012-andres-iniesta-guardian-readers ATG individual performances without a shadow of a doubt Xavi Hernandez vs Italy in the Euro 2012 final was walking on ice 1171879224757673986 is not a valid tweet id I remember watching it live and being completely mesmerized at how he rendered Italy's midfield obsolete For my money its firmly amongst the best continental/international final performances of all time Comparable to ones of Geoff hurst vs England 1966,Zidane vs Brazil 1998,Pele vs Sweden 1958 and baresi vs Brazil 1994
I agree with the Xavi part. He was the best player of that final. Not iniesta. Like in many other instances, iniesta got an undeserved MOTM and probably POTT award . (should've gone to Xavi and Pirlo imo)
I was thinking about an XI over multiple tournaments (a bit off topic) and came up with this: 1 - Edwin van der Sar 2 - Stefan Reuter 3 - Bixente Lizarazu 4 - Patrick Vieira 5 - Laurent Blanc 6 - Marcel Desailly 7 - Brian Laudrup 8 - Rui Costa 9 - Marco van Basten 10 - Zinedine Zidane 11 - Andres Iniesta Subs: Petr Cech, Paolo Maldini, Franz Beckenbauer, Pavel Nedved, Ruud Gullit Extras: Frank Rijkaard, Xavi, Wesley Sneijder, Luis Figo, Dragan Dzajic, Gerd Muller For an extra extra name maybe Dennis Bergkamp too lol!
The Reuter pick is possibly questionable, but I was struggling slightly for right back. Here his group stage ratings anyway aren't actually too good (while in 1996 La Repubblica gave him generally decent ratings as opposed to fantastic, as shown on another thread): Euro 1992 Championship GS grades of all players | BigSoccer Forum The reminder about Van Tiggelen at Euro 92 might make me lean towards giving him Maldini's place as a sub though now I think about it. He played on the right side a bit that year too I know, but not enough to replace Reuter himself I wouldn't think.
I remember now Gerd Muller didn't play in 76 of course, so Bergkamp can just slot in for him but I'm wondering whether I'd raise him above Gullit in the pecking order too overall. Maybe Raul is an alternative striker/support striker option, at a stretch, despite missing out on Spain's success in the end. Henrik Larsson even, but probably I'd slot Bergkamp into a subs slot.
This and the other thread between them have covered 1968-2012. UEFA's player of the tournament in 2016 was Griezmann despite France not winning the final. That leaves 1960 and 1964. Amancio looks a strong candidate for best player in 1964, doing well for winners Spain and being their leading scorer overall with four goals. 1960 is not clear. It is tempting to go for Yashin who conceded only two goals in four matches for the champions USSR. But the Russians missed two matches when Spain refused for political reasons to play them in the two-legged quarter-final. Also, runners-up Yugoslavia were reckoned to be the best team. The Yugoslavs themselves certainly considered themselves superior to USSR. Four of the Yugoslav side made UEFA's team of the final tournament: Durkovic, Galic, Sekularac and captain Kostic. Of these only Sekularac played all six matches, including qualifying. The others each missed one. This might outweigh Kostic's captaincy and three goals. Yugoslavia won the Olympic tournament a couple of months later without Sekularac. USSR did not participate.
I would prefer Platini 84 anytime,He played a lot of 9 in this tournamemt and he showed the world that outside of his god playmaking skills he had wonderful shooting technique and great finisher in the penalty area too. Zidane 2000 is the best in term of beauty and elegance.This tournament he showed the elegance that never seen from other players in the history of the game and he was very good in controlled tempo and organizing team.Howewer,Platini great finishing final products with 9 goals win by a small mergin
I would prefer Platini 84 anytime,He played a lot of 9 in this tournamemt and he showed the world that outside of his god playmaking skills he had wonderful shooting technique and great finisher in the penalty area too. Zidane 2000 is the best in term of beauty and elegance.This tournament he showed the elegance that never seen from other players in the history of the game and he was very good in controlled tempo and organizing team.Howewer,Platini great finishing final products with 9 goals win by a small mergin. Honourable mentions Franz Beckenbauer 72-A leader of the team,great in both defense and attack(playmaking and organising the team). Marco Van Basten88-A prolific scorer with the elegance of swan. MVB best game probably Holland vs West Germany when he won the duel vs the great Kohler. Toldo 2000/Schmeichel 1992-A historically great performance by goalkeeper especially Toldo vs Holland. Netzer1972-A great midfielder with supreme long passes and god like intelligence and vision in this tournament. Sammer1996-great in defence and attack,The last"Libero". Iniesta2012-dribbled like a wizard and created a lit of chances for Spain despite not having assist. Xavi2008-A perfect conductor of the team. Tigana 1984-Tireless motor,great ball skills,I hope Kante do this in Euro 2021 ......and many
Fun fact: Dribbles completed Mesut ozil Euro 2012 2.3 dribbles per 90 Andres iniesta Euro 2012 2 dribbles per 90 If iniesta was a wizard then zidane was probably a grandmaster(gandolf or even professor Dumbledore lol) Zidane completed 9 dribbles in one game vs portugal(24 in the whole tournament) Iniesta completed 12 dribbles in the entire Euro 2012 edition Key passes? Minimum 4 matches played Mesut ozil 4.5 per 90 Samir nasri 4.5 key passes per 90 Xavi Hernandez 4.2 key passes per 90 Franck ribery 3.3 key passes per 90 Andrea pirlo 2.7 key passes per 90 Cesc fabregas 2.6 key passes per 90 Nani 2.5 key passes per 90 David silva 2.2 key passes per 90 Karim benzema 2.1 key passes per 90 Joao moutinho 1.9 key passes per 90 Cristiano Ronaldo 1.9 key passes per 90 Jerome boetang 1.8 key passes per 90 Danielle de Rossi 1.2 key passes per 90 Phillip lahm 1.2 key passes per 90 Andres iniesta 1 key pass per 90 Goals/assists? Youve already covered it Or should i say there is nothing to actually cover The advanced statistics for stuff like through balls per 90 aren't earth shattering either For reference Wesley sneidjer played half the minutes of iniesta and completed more then double the amount of through balls Defensively he(iniesta) was good/adequate but it is nowhere near enough to mask the glaring deficiencies For me he was the most overrated MVP in euro championship history I won't comment on someone like matthues sammer(1996) but i cant imagine he was worse as this https://www.whoscored.com/Regions/2...tics/International-European-Championship-2012
It would be worth asking @comme since he has written a fine book on the history of the European Championship that contains plenty of detail.
My estimate(i think /field player only) Best performance ever 1. Platini(euro1984) 2. Marco van basten (euro1988) Top3 contender 3. Zidane( euro 2000) 4. Gunter nezter( euro 1972) Top5 contender Franz beckenbauer(euro 1972) Gerd muller(euro 1972) Figo(euro 2000) Top10 contender Griezmann(euro2016) Thiery Henry( euro 2000) Totti(euro 2000) Pirlo(euro 2012) Iniesta(euro 2012) Marcos senna(euro 2008) Xavi hernandez(euro 2008) Tigana(euro1984) Sammer(euro 1996)
Maybe it's not valid to include the Italy/Poland games for Cruyff, since that phase is more like traditional qualifying (but the Belgium games, as well as for example Germany vs England in 1972 are in the final stages of qualifying and equivalent to part of the tournament in some respects but with home/away format...and also happened in the year of the final tournament). So I'm not quite sure who would be my call for 5th in that case. Could be Figo from 2000, maybe even Pirlo from 2012.... For a top 5 games, without that one vs Italy by Cruyff (and without having access to see his full performances vs Belgium) I might go with these: Van Basten vs England & West Germany 88, Zidane vs Portugal 2000, Schmeichel vs Germany 92, Suker vs Denmark 96 But without ruling out Netzer vs England 72 since that was indeed more like part of the finals in some respects than Cruyff vs Italy (Euro 76, but in 1974, even if a group containing Poland and Italy back then leading to a short end tournament would be in some ways equivalent to a longer tournament more recently), and also not ruling out from consideration some others: Zavarov vs Italy 88, Pirlo vs England 2012, Sneijder vs France & Italy 2008, Rui Costa & Figo both vs England in 2000 (maybe for a top 7 I would insert the Pirlo & Rui Costa performances....not to go overboard on games vs England lol as sometimes the home media can probably I know, and I can remember examples vs England myself better I suppose too...but these ones do merit big consideration I do think probably).
I don't have the time to give a longer more elaborate answer, so I will try to be concise: I think the goat in this category is Platini at Euro 1984. Zinedine Zidane's Euro 2000 was beautiful; for reference, Zidane vs. Portugal arguably reached an extra step that Platini did not at Euro 1984; but in terms of overall performance, I think it is virtually impossible to equal, let alone beat, Platini's 1984. I have not watched Euro 1988, so both Marco van Basten and Ruud Gullit are glaring omissions in any observations I have to offer to this thread. I remember watching the Netherlands vs. England game at Euro 1988, like 7 years ago; I was probably more impressed with Gullit, than with Van Basten at the time. I should get around to actually watching Euro 1988. I consider myself something of a fanboy of Luis Figo, but to be honest, I think that Figo's Euro in 2000 is overrated; he looks a shadow of his Barcelona self; he appears to be injured, which would make sense, because he was injured when Barcelona played the UCL Semi Finals; so it would make sense that Figo would carry with him this unimpressive form to the Euro. Zlatan Ibrahimovic at Euro 2012, is very impressive in the group stage, but unfortunately fails to advance to the knock out stage; in terms of group stage performance, I would argue that Zlatan 2012 was arguably as good as it gets, and he did it in a difficult group against difficult teams like France and England, not to mention the host country Ukraine (host country factor); all of which adds to the fact that Zlatan himself played for a third-tier national team.
Agree with you on this. I felt during the tournament that Pirlo should've won the best player award . Was surprised when they gave it to Iniesta Also , Xavi was better in that final as far as i remember watching .