Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian..

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by ZIAD, Feb 15, 2009.

  1. ZIAD

    ZIAD Member

    Oct 11, 2004
    Just a quick thought of what would the starting line up look like when we hopefully get all the players mentioned above (Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu) and with the addition of Arshavin... Assuming that Rosicky, Walcott, & Dudu come back at full strength, the wings will all of a sudden feel congested. What do you think the starting line up will be? Any thoughts? All I know is that Eboue can kiss the wing role good bye.
     
  2. juanca

    juanca New Member

    Jan 30, 2006
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    GK-
    IMO we need a TOP CLASS Goalkeeper. Almunia is Fine, and fabianski has shown signs of hope, But, the fact remains, we are severely behind our main competitors in terms of Quality at this position.

    None the less, im sure we'll see the same players next year, with some kid getting promoted.

    Defense
    I'm not sure what wenger has in mind here, especially considering that Senderos could well be back this summer. Does he sell him, or does he give him one last chance? in that case, is he ahead of djorou or behind him? Alot of scenarios here...

    Not to mention, our ageing trio of Gallas, Toure, Silvestre.

    Hopefully, it'll be a busy summer.:rolleyes:

    Midfield
    I really think we'll be fine here.
    Fabregas, arshavin, walcott, nasri, song, denilson, diaby, rosicky, ramsey, wilshere, vela, bischoff, merida, barazite, Coquelin, randall

    We could use an experienced Head in there, someone of age also, but that person, whoever he is, would probably cost us alot of money, and since we just spent between 12-16 Million, I doubt we'll see another big splash for atleast 3 years....

    Forward

    Let me start off by saying, that if anyone we're to actually offer 20+ mil for Adebayor, i think we should ship him out ASAP.
    With that money, wenger could work his magic stick and bring in 2 quality players to help the squad.

    We would still have RVP, eduardo, bendtner, and simpson. Plus players like arshavin, walcott, vela, JFW who can play the position if need be.

    But i think we would be lucky to get 15mil for adebayor. So, im sure he'll be around for afew more years.

    So my line up would be...

    EDIT: i just tried to make one, but with all our players, and even with a 7 man bench, Im having trouble making one. I cant decide who plays, who are subs, and who gets left out...Completely:eek:

    we have so many players (atleast when there not injured and actually available), especially attacking ones, Its dificult to fit everyone in. Alot of "big names" atleast by our new standards might be left out of the match day squad.
     
  3. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    Sell Adebayor, buy David Villa.
     
  4. thedude83

    thedude83 Member

    Jan 29, 2007
    Kansas
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    ------Adebayor--Van Persie

    Nasri-Denilson-Fabregas-Arshavin

    Clichy-Djourou-Gallas---Sagna

    ---------Almunia

    Bench: Fabianski, Toure, Rosicky, Eduardo, Bendtner, Ramsey, Wilshere

    Song, Diaby, and Vela could easily be on the bench as well.

    I think this will be our starting lineup, Barring injury (Knocks on Wood).

    However if someone has a big preseason ( Rosicky, Walcott, Bendtner, Eduardo, Diaby, Ramsey ) i could easily see one of them displacing one of Denilson, Ade, or one of the wings.

    What will be interesting to see is how Wilshere and Ramsey will be used next year. Wenger is very high on both of them. But minutes will be really scarce on the wing with 5 players vying for two spots. Wilshere has 4 top quality players in front of him, so a loan deal might benefit him more than waiting for his chance. however, if the injury bug strikes (which it probably will with the track record of rosicky, nasri, and walcott) and wilshere gets his chance, I have no doubt that he will produce.

    Ramsey has an easier path to the starting XI but needs to improve his consistency. I think he will have another season of Cup games with a bit more premiership minutes to come. He might be used as an offensive cm sub that comes in for denilson late in games. But I think he will play second fiddle to denilson until at least 2010-2011.
     
  5. Quentin

    Quentin Member

    Jul 12, 2008
    Hurricane, WV, USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    Agreed... with selling Adebayor, anyway. He's been nothing short of disappointing this season. Complacent is the only word that could describe him this season.

    I like Villa, but I'm not sure how much he'd cost and how he'd adapt to the english game. Torres seems to have been successful enough, though. Who knows.
     
  6. mrnelson

    mrnelson Member

    Sep 20, 2006
    Dallas, Texas
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    I also agree... Villa shreds people for Spain and I'd be shocked if he didnt turn out to be as good or better then Torres has in the EPL. Too bad FM shit like this rarely if ever happens in real life.
     
  7. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    if we are swapping ade for villa, shall we also swap almunia for buffon, toure for ferdinand and eboue for ronaldo?
     
  8. TheArgonaut

    TheArgonaut Member

    Feb 11, 2008
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.


    Let's not get crazy...I know Toure hasn't been his best...but ferdinand is an overrated, over payed and completely average defender who is constantly saved by Vidic.
     
  9. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    we all have opinions
     
  10. Smalls123

    Smalls123 Member

    Feb 1, 2007
    PA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    wow prince I am really surprised you showed restraint there. I thought a shot like that at Rio (who is obviously a very good defender and if anything he makes Vidic better) would have sent you on a rant.

    Trying to make a dent in that "you always have to disagree" perception some people have given you around here as of late? ;) JK

    And while we are on the swap players theme

    Sell Almunia and buy Iker

    Sell Rosicky and buy Messi

    That's not so hard to pull off right?
     
  11. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    What's so insane about that idea? Ade can bring in 20+, and Valencia is in tough financial straits. Most likely someone else would be the high bidder, but the concept of getting Villa isn't as far-fetched as some would think.
     
  12. Arsenal_pwns_all

    Arsenal_pwns_all New Member

    Aug 13, 2004
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    Before we get Villa/Messi/CRonaldo/whomever, I'll like to see the hole Flamini left behind plugged and Denilson thrown away into the bench. Until that is done we can forget about winning any title, I think I'll rather see Adebayor doing nothing on the field than Denilson messing up everything.
     
  13. Smalls123

    Smalls123 Member

    Feb 1, 2007
    PA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    Do you know how much Villa would cost? Do you know the other teams that would be in for him? It is far-fetched as far-fetched can get when it comes to Arsenal.
     
  14. goonermaui

    goonermaui Arsenal No Ka 'Oi

    May 12, 2006
    Lahaina Maui
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    Um...sorry...I ....um...don't wish to interrupt..but, I was just wondering,
    how I found myself in a new transfer thread.:confused:

    Sorry...:eek: I just kinda liked the idea of the original thread title.
     
  15. juanca

    juanca New Member

    Jan 30, 2006
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    Come on now, Don't be such a kill joy! We just Splashed the cash 2 weeks ago!
     
  16. Smalls123

    Smalls123 Member

    Feb 1, 2007
    PA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    True...but we would have to splash 4 times that much to land Villa

    Bottom line is...

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDnXkFVEQ0Y"]YouTube - Scrubs - Turk: Not gonna happen[/ame]
     
  17. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    epic fail

    hes the best cb in the world dunny
     
  18. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    maturity :D
     
  19. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    I don't doubt that Ferdinand is a good CB, but is he really better than the likes of Carvalho (who IMO is the best CB in the world, since he makes John Terry look good), Carragher, Cannavaro, and Vidic? I'd take any one of those four over Rio without a second thought.
     
  20. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    I think the bigger question is: Who of these players will be sold. For the starting eleven, we really have a competition between (CC players in italics:

    Wide Midfield:
    Arshavin
    Walcott
    Nasri
    Rosicky
    Diaby
    Wilshere
    Merida
    Bischoff
    Barazite


    Central Midfield:
    Fabregas
    Denilson
    Song
    Ramsey
    Coquelin
    Randall


    I haven't included Vela, because Wenger has said that he sees Vela as a striker.

    Put that way, we probably have one player too many in wide midfield, and are one player short in central midfield (especially defensively). That's a gap that really needs to be addressed - this season is probably a lost cause as far as the league goes, but another injury in the wrong place (like Fabregas) and we'll be screwed next season as well. We should never be played two of Denilson, Song, and Diaby at the same time - the midfield becomes a huge liability at that point.

    The other point is: who of these players gets sold? I see Diaby getting sold - he turns 23 in May, and he really hasn't done much at Arsenal. The dropoff from Nasri, Rosicky and Walcott (haven't seen Arshavin yet, so can't include him) to Diaby is dramatic, and if he's playing, he's stealing minutes from the likes of Wilshere and Ramsey who do need more playing time.
     
  21. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    yes, yes Rio is
     
  22. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    carragher is shit mate

    rio is better than carvalho, he reads the game as well, is better in the air, at least as technical and quicker

    vidic wouldnt be anything without rio imo, but vidic is a great player
     
  23. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    I would take Carvalho over any of them, but Rio is a good player nonetheless.
     
  24. juanca

    juanca New Member

    Jan 30, 2006
    Land of the Free
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    Remember, Its The whole Squad that win Titles, not just a few players in certain positions. Lets just try and keep this ENTIRE group healthy and get our injured players back before we start thinking who we should sell.

    The farther away players like ramsey, wilshere, coquelin, barazite, merida are from being called upon Before there ready, the better IMO.
    This season we have had a catastrophe with injuries and we havn't been punished for lack of depth, but we've suffered the consequences of having to rely Heavily on unproven youngsters.

    They'll all be good if not great one Day, but that day is not today or tomorrow, they need time to develop. Having that kind of squad depth that you wrote above, would be ideal for Everyone at Arsenal.
     
  25. mrnelson

    mrnelson Member

    Sep 20, 2006
    Dallas, Texas
    Re: Best case scenario: The return of Rosicky, Walcott, Dudu and the addition of the crazy Russian.

    This thread started so well... What does everyone really think? And lets try not to go into a sell _________ , buy___________ rant again (I am also guilty of doing so).

    1 April Squad (hopefully):

    -----------Almunia-----------
    Sagna -- Gallas -- Kolo -- Clichy
    Arshavin - Nasri - Cesc - Rosicky
    ---------RVP-------Ade----------

    bench: Eduardo, Walcott, Eboue, Bendtner, Denilson, Fabianski
     

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