Berhalter out as coach, per Doug McIntyre

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  1. Bobbyho36

    Bobbyho36 Member

    Aug 8, 2007
    NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that's a more than fair paraphrase of "Cannot imagine who on this list would want the job."
     
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  2. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I give him huge credit for recruiting and bringing dual nationals to the US.
     
  3. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Hiring consultants are often used for good reasons. For one, everyone that is hiring has other jobs in most situations, so you get an "expert" in the field to generate a list. One of the few good reasons to get consultants are expertise you don't have and bandwidth for temporary workstreams.

    It's also a defense mechanism to say that yes, you did everything you could. You brought in experts! People were doing consultants long before DEI. It absolutely is a safeguard against people saying you didn't do everything you could or you didn't follow a process, you are right about that.

    Also, I doubt any of these consultants actually hire anyone. They gather criteria, they run through candidates, maybe do some legwork, recommend a number of people to talk through but in the end US Soccer will select the criteria and the final person.
     
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  4. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "“Our immediate focus is on finding a coach who can maximize our potential as we continue to prepare for the 2026 World Cup, and we have already begun our search process,” said Crocker."

    well stated ...

    maximize the potential ... the potential is there.
     
  5. yankthisyank'swank

    Oct 13, 2010
    how is The Mayor unqualified?
     
  6. Boysinblue

    Boysinblue Member

    Jul 31, 2011
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Looking at the ratings he gave it seems Dolo would be the early frontrunner by a large margin
     
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  7. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bisela is already in charge of another team, It’d be impossible for him unless he completely fails with Uruguay within the next couple of weeks or pulls some stupid shit out of his ass.
     
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  8. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's just a general thesis sentence, and is just about my feeling... in context, thought it was pretty clear I'm going into how many of these give a clear, easy YES. So to take from what I said "no one would consider this job" is not at all reasonable.

    Again, we will see who they get.

    And if this is indeed the list... at a minimum we can't have bullshit excuses years later that "the search was a joke".
     
  9. Tmagic77

    Tmagic77 Member+

    Feb 10, 2003
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Wikipedia has different numbers (probably league vs total). Anyway, per game:

    Curtin 0.28
    Cherundolo 0.84
    Nancy 0.50
    Marsch 0.39
    Noonan 0.5
    Berhalter 0.03

    Hard to ignore the player quality differences between the teams, but still.
     
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  10. yankthisyank'swank

    Oct 13, 2010
    imagine if Gregg chose to leave his job after the 2022 World Cup. I bet he would have been a spicier choice than he is now. He was a 7 before being rehired. You right about eating our own for sure though
     
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  11. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    lolol what if its Southgate? Fandom will meltdown!
     
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  12. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Needed to happen. Anyone who knows my positing history knows that I believe this should have happened…. And should have happened a lot sooner.

    But a few highlights:
    -In the first cycle, he was able to construct a good defensive system that conceded few goals (unfortunately he got worse in this area in the second cycle).
    -I’ll applaud his attempt to implement a new system, slow build up / possession, over counter attack (although you all know I thought he was too rigid in this). Even though I don’t think we should necessarily stick to this approach, at least, the players will understand it, if we need to go back to it.
    -He reportedly maintained good relationships with players.
    -He was arguably the best dual national recruiter we’ve ever had. Balogun, Musah, Dest, Tillman, Pepi, etc.
    -He made a bold and correct decision to bring back Tim Ream for the World Cup.
    -He was the Mexecutioner.
    -Other important wins: Ecuador, Morocco, Ghana (am I missing anyone else?)
    -NL and GC Champions.
    -He had to see the team through Covid.
    -He had to deal with an insane injury crisis in 2021-2022. No coach ever wants to go through a plague of injuries like that one. In my opinion, that was the worst injury crisis throughout USMNT modern history (since I’ve followed since 1994).
    -He oversaw the major overhaul of the USMNT, ushering in the new generation, after the 2018 embarrassment. That required him to balance the right times of introducing new players into the team, even before they would have typically been ready beforehand (essentially having to get the most an u23 team), as there was almost no one of value left from 2018 generation.
    -Most important of all, he got the team out of the group in the World Cup.

    ….There. Don’t say I never said anything positive about him.
     
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  13. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    His name was bouncing around the Palace and Swansea jobs, Swansea especially.

    He'd be very lucky to land a Championship job now.
     
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  14. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    The nastiness isn't in the circumstances, as much as people would like to say it is.
     
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  15. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    Official:



    Insiders,

    We wanted to let you know that Gregg Berhalter has been relieved of his duties as Head Coach of the U.S. Men’s National Team, effective immediately.

    The search for a new USMNT Head Coach has already begun. To learn more, please read here.

    We are deeply grateful to Gregg for his commitment the past five years to the Men’s National Team and to U.S. Soccer.

    Thank you for your continued support.
     
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  16. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
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  17. yankthisyank'swank

    Oct 13, 2010
    Cherundolo seems to be killing it this year with a far less expensive group of players than people realize. Spending, they sit 17th out of 29 total mls clubs.
     
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  18. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Klopp is one of the few who would I think. In fact, we might blame the players a more appropriate amount for once.
     
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  19. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    To me this means, oddly enough, that with Klopp money won’t be an issue. If he wants the job, he’ll take it. He can earn a lot more money elsewhere, but (for reasons that escape me) he might want to accept our challenge. Sounds crazy, I know.

    We might be better off offering (a symbolic) $1, letting him work from home (aka Europe) initially, at least while he gets to know the players and settles in, then step things up in 2025-2026.

    It’s probably too soon after the intensity of the PL, but the pacing might seem like something of a vacation.

    He’s certainly worth approaching. Again, he doesn’t need the money, but the job would have to strongly appeal to him.
     
  20. porkrind

    porkrind Member+

    Quakes
    United States
    Sep 27, 2001
    Bostonia
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Has anyone talked to Tata Martino? I mean, talk about making the Mexis heads explode...
     
  21. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    Iran would be his most important.
     
  22. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member+

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    LA... You mean the new training facility in the ATL.
     
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  23. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Lol you’re ridiculous.
     
  24. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    He is killing it -- and the underlyings are REALLY impressive.

    That said, once you incorporate transfer fees, total spend on that roster is pretty high.

    But LAFC is killing it. And as much as their point total doesn't quite reflect, them adding Giroud could be pretty nuts.
     
  25. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    His dark arts occurred before VAR. Wasn’t it the match with Coulibally where Clint dished out a cheap shot right at the opening kick off that could possibly have been red?
     
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