Berhalter out as coach, per Doug McIntyre

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  1. PhilipVU94

    PhilipVU94 Member

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Jul 6, 2024
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    United States
  2. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
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    Didn’t he he have the best winning record of a US coach in his first stint? (60%) It’s a tough crowd when passing grade is by far the nicest thing anyone can say when he whipped Mexico multiple times, qualified for the World Cup and took the team to the second round with our youngest squad ever. We really eat our own.
     
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  3. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Some of those guys are currently employed. I have no idea where in the heck they came up with this list of candidates.
     
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  4. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    If everyone just pitches in $5....
     
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  5. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
  6. porkrind

    porkrind Member+

    Quakes
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    Sep 27, 2001
    Bostonia
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    lol... the mayor of hannover is *not* unqualified.

    That said, I would be reasonably happy with a Nancy hire. I don't know much about Matarazzo, who's the only other name on the list I assume we have a reasonable shot at.

    First person to suggest the special one gets their back put against the wall.
     
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  7. an1310

    an1310 Member+

    Jun 2, 2003
    Atlanta, GA
    We’ll have $35 by day’s end.
     
  8. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

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    Chicago, IL
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    Arsenal FC
    ChatGPT
     
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  9. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    It's challenging to compare winning percentages ever since UEFA corrupted international match scheduling for non-UEFA national teams by establishing its Nations League.
     
  10. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think given that the next WC is in the US will make this a very attractive job for a large pool of candidates ...

    here is what the next coach should consider:

    1. a 24 month rental home in Ranchos Palos Verdes (base in LA).

    2. willingness to fly from LAX to ORD and various spots in the US etc. (first class) - and ability to fly from LAX to London/Frankfurt/Munich/Berlin/Milan/Netherlands/Monaco etc.

    3. majority of training at training camp in LA.

    4. negotiation for NIL rights and advertising in the US.

    5. guaranteed good base salary till after the WC2026 final ... with a nice pay for performance bonus structure.
     
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  11. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
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    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Henry would be a horrible hire, and Bielsa is in charge of one of the most dynamic teams in the world, currently. So if Henry's a yes that's bad, and I don't think Bielsa would be.

    Would love to be wrong, think Bielsa for 2 years is about the absolute best the USSF could hope for. That is a better hire than Klopp IMO.
     
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  12. yankthisyank'swank

    Oct 13, 2010
    I imagine it feels like marrying a “ten” when you’re 25, divorcing her at 32, and looking for new prodpects, but ultimately settling for a “3” because she’s “nice” and getting “paid” is always better than the alternative.
     
  13. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    You may be right, and I hope you are.
     
  14. porkrind

    porkrind Member+

    Quakes
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    Sep 27, 2001
    Bostonia
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Of all the plausible names, Bielsa is the only one I would be legitimately excited about.

    I wouldn't grouch too much with Henry either. He wasn't terrible at Montreal.
     
  15. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

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    Chicago, IL
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    We played a lot of hot Concacaf garbage that we ordinarily wouldn't because of Nations League and an expanded Gold Cup.

    This is also the worst Mexican team I've ever seen.

    It was surface-level good, but not as impressive when you dive into it. Passing grade for the first Berhalter administration feels right to me, but it certainly fell short of Berhalter's goal of changing the way the world perceives American soccer.
     
  16. yankthisyank'swank

    Oct 13, 2010
    Klopp or Bielsa wouldn’t stop the nastiness.
     
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  17. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    I don't 4eally have anything bad to say. He worked hard and met expectations through 2022. That might sound like faint praise, but it didn't have to turn out that well. Coming back was probably a bad idea for all involved. But I get it, from his perspective.
     
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  18. Grumpy in LA

    Grumpy in LA Bringing It Since 1807™

    Sep 10, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    _________ hasn’t done a thing for the USMNT yet! _______ out!
     
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  19. USOutlaw16

    USOutlaw16 Member+

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    Jan 22, 2011
    On the Gringo Wall of Shame
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    People call Dolo unqualified yet there was a segment of the fanbase that called for BJ Callaghan to take the job despite being even less qualified than Dolo.

    Also, I've seen people suggest the special one....then I remind them he just took a job with Fenerbache.
     
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  20. soonertony

    soonertony Member

    Feb 2, 2003
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    Chicago Fire
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    United States
    Goal Differential in MLS as head coach.

    Jim Curtin: +89
    Steve Cherundolo: +62
    Wilfried Nancy: +59
    Jesse Marsch: +54
    Pat Noonan: +47
    Gregg Berhalter: +9
     
  21. Bobbyho36

    Bobbyho36 Member

    Aug 8, 2007
    NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do I think either are likely? No. Do I think your assumption that no one on that list would even consider the job is accurate? Also no.
     
  22. Reccossu

    Reccossu Member+

    Jan 31, 2005
    Birmingham
    Job half done. Can still botch it with a meh hire.
     
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  23. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    multiple (DC United, Dortmund, Arsenal, Leeds....)
    United States
    Mar 17, 2007
    moving around the US every few years ....
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    perhaps they could just call up Clint and have him do his dark arts training course.

    if I am Klopp or Bielsa - there is absolutely no purpose for the US to play games between now and 2026 against any CONCACAAF teams other than Mexico, Canada, and perhaps Costa Rico/Panama. Playing anyone else is a waste of time and could in fact see our players get injured. The boys need to go on the road to South America and Europe for game after game after game. What does not kill you makes you stronger.
     
  24. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Leicester City FC
    Fair - but also a very young team and he did well recruiting quality duals. He also had us playing better at (fairly few) times than I’ve seen us play. I give him some credit for not being a bunker and counter coach in the name of grinding results.
     
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  25. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did I say "no one on that list would consider the job"... also no.
     

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