Bergin's Mystery trialist

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  1. stopper4

    stopper4 Member

    Jan 24, 2000
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. RightWinger

    RightWinger Red Card

    Feb 16, 2003
    LA JOLLA
    Van Der Vaart?
     
  3. Stogey23

    Stogey23 Member+

    Dec 12, 1998
    San Diego, CA
    There's a kid on San Jose loaned to MLS from a German team.
     
  4. stopper4

    stopper4 Member

    Jan 24, 2000
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Bergin's Mystery trialist


    Oh. Duh. My bad. Doesn't MLS own a piece of his rights, now, though? I guess it's still a loan.
     
  5. Alex Sanz

    Alex Sanz New Member

    Apr 6, 2000
    TX
    Stephen Higgins maybe?
     
  6. stopper4

    stopper4 Member

    Jan 24, 2000
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't think it's Steven Higgins. Bergin was aware of him and didn't "embargo" his name.
     
  7. Jalgpall

    Jalgpall New Member

    Jun 17, 1999
    Dallas, TX
    Sean Dundee
     
  8. Jambon

    Jambon Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    Austin, TX
    Geez, Bradley was right in his article on mlsnet.com, we do stay busy in the discovery market!

    Two Euro forwards and a possible loan for Nunez. That's having more than one iron in the fire alright. I hope one of them pans out after all this build up. We could use the help up front.
     
  9. rrobz

    rrobz Member

    Feb 5, 2001
    Palo Alto, CA
    Just a quick note - the article says "European based", not European.

    Also, its unclear how "top scorer" is being used - i.e. euphemistically, in that he scores "a lot", or literally, THE top scorer.

    I thought one poster's guess of Jardel was interesting, in that its close to the facts, but pretty unlikely.

    I guess the first step is to figure out what are the "Western European leagues", starting with the least likely onward:
    England
    France
    Germany
    Italy
    Spain
    Netherlands

    I think we can rule out those countries, if the player truly is a "top scorer".

    Next batch:
    Portugal
    Belgium
    Scotland
    Ireland
    Wales
    Switzerland
    Austria

    These are all western European nations (although Switzerland and Austria are borderline), and I guess would be possibilities. If I had to bet, I'd say it be one of Portugal, Belgium or Scotland (otherwise, it seems a bit of a stretch to highlight the "top scorer" of the Welsh league).

    Also, the player must be currently available to be signed by MLS, taking into account FIFA's transfer rules, i.e. the player has to be out of contract, or the team for which he is playing must be willing to release his contract.

    In the end, I have no idea who could meet this criteria. All the players who would be available, top scorers that I can think of have more than seven caps.

    In fact, I've found its pretty hard to figure out current number of caps for non-US players. Here are some players who came up in searches for 7 caps (none of which are real possibilities, though):
    Andy Cole has seven caps for England
    Duncan Ferguson has 7 caps for Scotland
    Diego Tristan had 7 caps for Spain as of May 2002

    BTW, any chance the "Scottish" player is Russell Latapy?
     
  10. Scipio Gothicus

    Aug 6, 2001
    Cabo San Lucas
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Larsson has said he is ready to leave Celtic. Think he has more than seven caps. Wishing will make it so, lets get the bhoy in Dallas!
     
  11. Northside Rovers

    Jan 28, 2000
    Austin TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eduardo Hurtado is a "striker who has played in the SPL" so, as with all things, your mileage may vary.

    Not to mention the snippet of the HSG / Frisco deal within 2 weeks. I guess the best thing about that situation is that neither HSG nor the City of Frisco are saying anything - which may mean they really are close to a deal. God willing.
     
  12. THFCfan

    THFCfan New Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Westchester, NY
    The article actually says "has being a leading scorer in a Western European League"

    I'll assume this means has been a leading scorer in a top flight western european league. I'd assume Boksic has more than 7 caps (If he has ever been a leading scorer in a league). Di Canio maybe?
     
  13. GunnerSabotTank

    GunnerSabotTank New Member

    Jan 18, 2000
    Middlesex, NJ
    Vinny Arkins - No. Ireland Leauge leading scorer.
     
  14. dcufan1984

    dcufan1984 Member

    Feb 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    no. he has never been capped. he only has republic of ireland "b" and u-21 caps to his name. good shot though. anyone else?
     
  15. rrobz

    rrobz Member

    Feb 5, 2001
    Palo Alto, CA
    Boksic has more than 50 caps.

    DiCanio was a high scorer in the Scottish league back in 97/98, where he had 17 goals in 37 appearances. However, I am pretty certain he does not have any caps. Here's an excerpt from an article I found on the subject:

    "It is a little known fact, although perhaps one that may become more widely known if anything ever comes of it, that Paolo di Canio, a born and bred Italian, could be the answer to England's striker problems. Although he is surely nearer to the end of his career, at 33 years of age, his perfomances on the pitch have proven that he is still a world class player. However, crucially, Di Canio has never played international football, which may just give a glimmer of hope if Sven Goran Eriksson is prepared to take chance on him.
    ...
    Paolo di Canio has been overlooked by Italy at all levels, and having never played for his country of birth he could now technically qualify to play for England on the basis of residence here in the UK. "

    Indeed, here's an amusing quote I found by Giovanni Trapattoni on Di Canio's chance of an international callup:

    "Only if there's an outbreak of the bubonic plague."
     
  16. Rastlin

    Rastlin New Member

    Nov 20, 1999
    Myrtle Beach
    Wait a second? Is Jefferies looking at getting a player from the SPL as well as Nunez? If so I thought this was a really quite off season...do we have enough SI spots for that?
     
  17. DOMBAS

    DOMBAS New Member

    Oct 26, 2002
    THE WOODS
    Marco Negri or Fab Ravanelli????

    Ravanelli probably has more than 7 caps and would appear to be a bit of a stretch, but Marco Negri is still in his early 30's, playing in Seria B and was the leading scorer in all of Europe (I think) at one point a few years back for Glasgow Rangers. Not sure if he ever played for Italy though.
     
  18. rrobz

    rrobz Member

    Feb 5, 2001
    Palo Alto, CA
    Re: Marco Negri or Fab Ravanelli????

    That's an interesting pick ... In 29 games for Rangers in 97/98, he scored 32 goals. Also, the club Negri plays for, Livorno, is coached by none other than former MLS'er Roberto Donadoni.

    Ravanelli had 20 caps back when he played for Marseille.
     
  19. dcufan1984

    dcufan1984 Member

    Feb 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i cannot seem to find any info on the amount of caps that negri has, but i know that he had none as of 1999.
     
  20. eye no

    eye no Red Card

    Jul 18, 2001
    Ooooh, you used an "Oliver-Tse-ism".

    "Embargo".

    That's a yellow-card offense in these parts.
     
  21. banbaseball

    banbaseball Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    East of the Bay
    OKAY does any of the aforementioned players or any top scorer from a western league (for the matter) actually need a trial. c'mon! sounds like smoke up the arse to me. i'm going to prepare myself for disappointment, utter speechlessness, or a basic sense of cluelessness.
     
  22. GunnerSabotTank

    GunnerSabotTank New Member

    Jan 18, 2000
    Middlesex, NJ
    He has 7 u-21 caps......and he never said full caps.
    Plus...some Irish boards are stating that he is complaining about taking a pay cut....down to about $100K per year.

    He is still my bet.
     
  23. dcufan1984

    dcufan1984 Member

    Feb 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i think that is a weak link, but you never know. i still think that is someone else. we will see soon. i am sure buzz is all over this.
     
  24. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am in a relative sense. Jeffries won't give me the name until it is "official" that the player (s) in question is coming.
     
  25. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No there is only one open SI slot.

    Nunez is playing in the UNCAF cup right now, and any thing worked out with him is still going to take a while, if it can be worked out at all.

    Meanwhile I am certain they will take a look at some of these other players... who knows maybe one of them will be what they are looking for.
    Or maybe one of them will be good enough to make the Burn cut another SI... or maybe one of them has a green card or something.

    It is way to early to really speculate.
     

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