Ben Lederman at Raków Częstochowa (Poland)

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  1. UniversalAdvice

    Apr 18, 2018
    Ah shucks, some quick reading and false cognates got the better of me. Thanks for the correction.
     
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  2. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    In a game from March 18, Gent's U-21s won 4-1 away to Anderlecht. Lederman started, wore the number 10, and set up two goals.

     
  3. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

    Chelsea
    Switzerland
    Nov 28, 2010
    Geneva
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    That first assist was nice.
     
  4. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
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  5. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looking for a new home.

     
  6. UniversalAdvice

    Apr 18, 2018
    Highlights from last season:



    Some NAC fans on Twitter said that he had a good trial. Still, he doesn't seem to have signed with them, so we'll see where he ends up.
     
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  7. PhillyFury

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    Slavia Prague
    United States
    Jan 1, 2004
    Prague, Czech Republic
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wonder what his limitations, as far as these clubs are concerned, are. Anyone with any inside dope???
     
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  8. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Limited athleticism.
     
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  9. keller4president

    Jan 5, 2006
    What's up with Ben? He should give up on Europe at this point and give MLS a try. Otherwise he should try for a lower tier euro league like Denmark, Sweden, or even Israel.
     
  10. PhillyFury

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    Slavia Prague
    United States
    Jan 1, 2004
    Prague, Czech Republic
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seriously where is he??
     
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  11. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unsigned. Not very good.
     
  12. UniversalAdvice

    Apr 18, 2018
    Trained with Beitar Jerusalem a couple of weeks ago:





    Not sure if the second tweet implies that he did end up returning to Gent II. The big point is that he's still looking for a new place to play.
     
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  13. MHaifa1913

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    Metro
    United States
    Dec 21, 1998
    New York, NY, USA
    Club:
    Maccabi Haifa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Signed with Hakoah Amidar/Ramat Gan in Israel’s third division.
     
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  14. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Third division Israel...our little Barca star has fallen so low
     
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  15. PhillyFury

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    Slavia Prague
    United States
    Jan 1, 2004
    Prague, Czech Republic
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I find his tale so fascinating and chilling at the same time. To drop this fast seems almost unprecedented.
     
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  16. taylor

    taylor Member+

    Jun 9, 2000
    Fav team: FC CARL ZEISS JENA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Oooouuuuey.

    I dont even know what that means...lol 3. israel??? Wttttf?


    By signing, you mean he is paying his monthly membership dues?
     
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  17. UniversalAdvice

    Apr 18, 2018
    Shocking, really. I can't imagine that a 19 year old with Barcelona and Gent on his resume couldn't find any takers at some level higher than this.

    Maybe he just wanted to move to Israel and figure some things out.
     
  18. PhillyFury

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    Slavia Prague
    United States
    Jan 1, 2004
    Prague, Czech Republic
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting point. Maybe he needs that break. Again, as you say, given his resume/background, you'd assume someone, somewhere, at some decent level in Europe would be intrigued at the least to give him a shot...
     
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  19. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
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    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Someone did. Gent are one of Belgium's Big 5 but they didn't rate him and nobody in Israel's Premier League was interested in him either (training with Beitar doesn't mean he was given a trial).

    Top youth prospects fail to live up to their potential all the time, sadly: the body doesn't develop, it breaks down, the soccer IQ doesn't mature, the pressure becomes too much, etc. Let's hope he can work his way back up.
     
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  20. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
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    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think it's unprecedented at all. It would be a precipitous fall if Lederman were a highly rated prospect, but it was clear that he wasn't particularly valued at La Masia and the US U17s also showed little interest in him.

    Lesser academy players at big clubs fall off the face of the earth all the time. Go on Transfermarkt and look up the U19 rosters for big Bundesliga clubs from 7-10 years ago. You'll find all sorts of guys who fall off the face of the earth.
     
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  21. PhillyFury

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    Slavia Prague
    United States
    Jan 1, 2004
    Prague, Czech Republic
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #646 PhillyFury, Feb 14, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2020
    Sure, I was a bit over the top there, but still, the impression I had was he was still a top talent. The article about his stint at Gent made it clear he has the skill level, and it hinted his chances at the club were decent. So, to go from that to this, within, what, a year or so, maybe less, is pretty sobering.
     
  22. MHaifa1913

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    United States
    Dec 21, 1998
    New York, NY, USA
    Club:
    Maccabi Haifa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hakoah Maccabi Amidar/Ramat Gan 0-1 Maccabi Sha'arayim Rehovot

    Ben started and went 65 minutes in his first available match.

    Appears that they used a copy of the picture in his Israeli passport for his player card. This is what appears on the IFA website.
    [​IMG]

    Next match is "on the road" at Or Yehuda. Say this in quotes because Or Yehuda is less than five miles from Ramat Gan but this is not a derby. Mind you. The whole country is smaller than New Jersey.
     
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  23. taylor

    taylor Member+

    Jun 9, 2000
    Fav team: FC CARL ZEISS JENA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Ouue weyh.... Man.... Well on the positive side he is not injured like all ya usmnt????
     
  24. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now he's in line for a promotion to YA? My how things change quickly around here.



     
  25. MHaifa1913

    MHaifa1913 Moderator
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    Metro
    United States
    Dec 21, 1998
    New York, NY, USA
    Club:
    Maccabi Haifa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That explains why he did not start the game last weekend. I couldn't even find him on the bench. Feel bad for the Hakoah fans. On their Facebook page, they seemed pretty excited for him to join.
     
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