"Benji" Joya at Necaxa

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Feb 21, 2012.

  1. Hararea

    Hararea Member+

    Jan 21, 2005
    At Santos, he hasn't even been getting consistent U20 minutes. Is he really good enough to contend for first-team minutes in MLS?
     
  2. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He has played 4 times in the Liga MX already. He is good enough to play with the former college kids.
     
  3. #1 Feilhaber and Adu

    Aug 1, 2007
    right, but this is the same player who was basically the biggest defender/protector of our players in that us-mexico u-20 final down in mexico. When a mexico player would get in our player faces, joya would be the one to mouth back in their faces. I remember saying to myself that day "good luck with your career in Mexico, better go to another country as fast as you can".
     
  4. Mario Balotelli

    Mario Balotelli Member+

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    Feb 28, 2012
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As far I as I know, he was injured for a large stretch of the Clausura which is why he didn't play much for the U20s. Before that, he played regularly with the U20s (I think). I rate him pretty highly and was actually surprised he wasn't able to secure regular first team action with Santos.
     
  5. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
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    His recent club track record looks quite poor, but I think he has struggled with some injury issues. While we've seen time and time again that Liga MX U20 playing time and even a first team cup of coffee is no guarantee of success, I think in Joya's case we've seen enough from him with the US U-20 that he's a worthwhile acquisition for the right team. And he's likely coming pretty cheap -- it's not like Santos Laguna cares much about him.
     
  6. Hararea

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    Jan 21, 2005
    It's possible that Joya has been fighting injuries, but his U20 playing time has been erratic for a long while now. In the first half of 2013-14, he played 835 out of a possible total of 2070 minutes (including playoffs).
     
  7. BostonRed

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    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
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  8. Hararea

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    Jan 21, 2005
    ... alhough there's nothing unusual about a U20 starter not being ready for MLS. With Joya in particular, one question is what position he would play. As a holding mid, he looked weak defensively, and not many MLS teams would be willing to put up with that.

    I'm a little surprised that it's a loan rather than a transfer. MLS has traditionally been very reluctant about accepting such deals for US players.
     
  9. Pl@ymaker

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    Feb 8, 2010
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    I strongest position is RM IMO
     
  10. usry723

    usry723 Member+

    Aug 14, 2008
    Georgia, USA
    Club:
    Atlanta
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    United States
    It's been a while since I've seen him play but I remember preferring him on the wing also.
     
  11. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Charlie Davies is a recent example..............................
    Of course DCU and MLS decided not to buy. He went back to Europe, floundered, returned to the US, and floundered again.

    We'll see how Joya does. He was certainly capable of playing with the other U20's we had in the World Cup. If that's the case there's room for him in MLS. Now it'll just be up to him to develop into an MLS-caliber player.
     
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  12. Pl@ymaker

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    Feb 8, 2010
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    United States
    He looked a lot like Andy Najar when he played on the right wing for Santos Laguna.
     
  13. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    Joya has nowhere near the speed/quickness of Najar
     
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  14. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I saw the touch and skill to at least contend for MLS minutes. I think he's in the range of contending for minutes on the right team as a winger. Why Ramos thought he was a central midfielder still confuses me.
     
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  15. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
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    Based on what? He was gliding past Liga MX players when he made his debut.
     
  16. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    #141 ielag, Feb 3, 2014
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    He was gliding by all those LigaMX in the 129 total minutes he's played on the 1st team that Santos banished him back down to their U20 team for good. Also, LigaMX isn't necessarily known for the speed of their players, MLS has faster players.

    Just look at the U.S. U20 team, he was one of many players with average athleticism that Ramos put out there. Najar is close to Yedlin equivalent, Joya is not close to Yedlin athleticism wise.

    I think Benji's strengths are is he reads the pretty game well, has some cleverness, and technically sound.
     
  17. Pl@ymaker

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    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
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    We'll see how well he does in MLS
     
  18. usry723

    usry723 Member+

    Aug 14, 2008
    Georgia, USA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chicago, Seattle, and RSL in the lottery.
     
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  19. Pl@ymaker

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    Feb 8, 2010
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    United States
    Please pick him RSL!
     
  20. USAMEX10

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    Sep 24, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    "@mexicoworldcup: Benji Joya to Chicago Fire, according to a source close to the deal. Not confirmed as yet by MLS or club."

    Wow that would mean Fire just got a whole lot younger this off season. Cool to see if true. Not sure he'd get lot of PT though
     
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  21. Pl@ymaker

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    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
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    If he's good, he'll get playing time.
     
  22. Germerica

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    May 2, 2012
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  23. Jazzy Altidore

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    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Yea dude, those crappy former college kids like Dempsey and Omar Gonzales.
     
  24. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
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    Who said that they were crappy? He played well yesterday in preseason and helped Chicago get their first goal against DC United.



    Benji is the #8
     
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  25. BostonRed

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