Pre-match: Benfica vs Real Madrid |UCL Group stage #8|28.01.26 21:00 CET

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  1. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    When Iker Casillas was friends with Xavi and Puyol, he chastized him for "being friends with the enemy" and pointed the finger at him for being a "mole" :

    In a way Mourinho encapsulates modern football in a single person. Classy in victory, miserable in defeat.
     
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  2. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Mou doing everything to get RM job next. :D

     
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  3. PigBenis

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    Sep 5, 2015
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    Mou is twerking hard. I think he’s one of the top candidates in Flo’s mind.
     
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  4. Aensensen

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    Jun 10, 2011
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    Haha, seeing these quotes, makes me think you may be right. Regardless of me not seeing it happen ever.
     
  5. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
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    At least if Mou becomes manager we know the club has hit rock bottom and even though trophies will be few and far between like with the Spanish tacticians (Benitez, Lopetegui) a brighter day will arrive in when they leave.
     
  6. benny_madridista

    Real Madrid
    Nov 30, 2020
    We have away 20 shots against Monaco, a mid-table Ligue 1 team. It was hardly a great performance.
     
  7. SayWhatIWant

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    Jan 10, 2015
    Benfica cleverly practiced the touchline passes bypassing the RB and allowing the winger into space. It was brilliant. And they managed to find efficient diagonals from the wings to central zones or half-zones. It was a masterpiece tactically tbh. Arbeloa should have reacted sooner.
     
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  8. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    Real Madrid loses to Benfica over two legs, but Mourinho stays in Madrid to immediately take over from Arbeloa.

    :p
     
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  9. SayWhatIWant

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    Jan 10, 2015
    People change, and more importantly are contradictory and driven by self-interest. At the time Mourinho's responsibility was toward Madrid's success. He made mistakes - but I'm not sure his assessment of that situation was. The Barca players were uniquely vicious toward ours, and a climate of subjugation and an inferiority complex had settled in. A meeker option would have seen us getting pummeled and losing "with grace". The club should have done more to put pressure on referees and investigate why we were getting yellows/red cards/pens constantly against those cheaters.
     
  10. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Sounds like a movie script, not buying that.

    The guys that followed Mourinho proved it was possible to win without all that noise.
     
  11. SayWhatIWant

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    Jan 10, 2015
    Well madrid's team impoved materially via acquisitions (bale, modric) and the existing players all improved while barcelona declined.
     
  12. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Bale and Modric weren't there for Mourinho?
     
  13. SayWhatIWant

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    Jan 10, 2015
    Not bale my friend... he was purchased after Mourinho left. And yes Modric's first season was with Mou, but he was still being transitioned into the team. Bale revolutionized our squad and took us to the next level (see CDR final goal, UCL goals, etc.)
     
  14. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    So basically with Bale and another year Mourinho wins all those trophies that Zidane and Carlo did? Don't quite get your point here.
     
  15. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    At least we could recycle this thread for the UCL Playoffs :D
     
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  16. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Mou might not even make it to the return leg the way his domestic campaign is going.
     
  17. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    Crazy considering he hasn't lost a league game in 16/17 games now? 7 draws is a lot.
     
  18. SayWhatIWant

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    Jan 10, 2015
    Well we can speculate ad nauseam which is useless.
    In your theoretical scenario, this would be sfter the fallout between casillas and mou which derailed our 2013.
    I wiuld say if bale was added in 2011 - then yes mourinho would have won the ucl with that team
     
  19. SayWhatIWant

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    Jan 10, 2015
    Benfica cant finish
     
  20. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    After we got the leaks from Florentino Perez, we can see what he thought of Mourinho's attitude at the time. Let's just say he wasn't very appreciative of how things were going.
     
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  21. SayWhatIWant

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    Jan 10, 2015
    As you saw - I don't think Mourinho is anywhere near perfect and has his share of mistakes and blame. And we saw how his faults reared their ugly head later in his career. I think my point is we needed to go to war to beat Barcelona - that much he correctly identified - and I do believe that Casillas' move was uncalled for and meek. Did he consult the other Real Madrid players? Not to my knowledge. Nobody does that sort of thing in a rivalry.
     
  22. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    I think he took it too far and tried to create an environment of hate and mistrust. Hoeneß back then said Mourinho arrives and everybody loves him and when he leaves there's only scorched earth behind him.

    I think that used to be a very appropriate way to describe it. All this anger, frustration and using hate as a motivational tool either fizzles out when you win or it peaks past the point where it's fun and games and things get serious.

    Mourinho didn't have a problem "drinking a good bottle of wine" with opponents like Alex Ferguson, but when his players form a friendship with another player, no sir, that is not allowed.

    Mou is from another time. At this point he's retro.
     
  23. SayWhatIWant

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    Jan 10, 2015
    I think we just have contrasting opinions on the matter - and it will be hard to reconcile. As I said we both share the viewpoint that Mourinho erred - his eye poke moment was egregious, and he should have been far more tactful and clever when butting heads with casillas instead of the power move he wanted to apply. He made those mistakes and paid for it.
    What I will not agree with you is twofold - the mentality Mourinho brought was the only way to restore pride, rivalry, and competitiveness with Barcelona - and it worked.
    I don't think Mourinho is washed up. I think it's extremely hard for a coach to be. They either lose interest (he hasnt) or fail to retain critical support staff (he hasnt). Do I think he is the savior for the team some have styled him? No - it's wishful thinking. When he built the best team, he had inherited 2Bdor winners and the best young attacker on the planet among other top players.
     

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