Ben Lederman at Raków Częstochowa (Poland)

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  1. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
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    Full time 2-0 win - subbed out in the second half, picked up a yellow card. Four game win streak has put them comfortably in a Europa League spot and they're in the cup final next weekend.
     
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  2. BostonRed

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  3. Casper

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    Lederman came on at half, and picked up a yellow -

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    Bigger picture, I think failing to win this might formally clinch, or all-but-clinch, the league title for Legia Warsaw. Rakow now down to playing for second, when they've clinched at worst third, and second and third get the same Europa League treatment.

    However, they still have the Cup final coming up on Sunday, against a team from the second tier, so they are significant favorites.
     
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  4. BostonRed

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  5. BostonRed

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    Left tied 1-1:



    Rakow scored again in the 89th minute to complete a 2 goal comeback..

    Cup winners.

     
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  6. Gorky

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    Man, this team plays in a tiny stadium.
     
  7. Rahbiefowlah

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    Oct 22, 2001
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  8. dougtee

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    damn i didn’t know watching him all season was even possible. footybite deep cuts
     
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  9. Casper

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    Mar 30, 2001
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    Appears to not be in the squad today for a relatively meaningless league match, on the back of Sunday's final. 6 start today who didn't start Sunday - basically the same defense and everything else switched. Playing for second place and pride.
     
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  10. wixson7

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    Good for him..

     
  11. bshredder

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    Feb 23, 1999
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    I always thought it was gonna be Israel that would call him up first
     
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  12. m vann

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    Sep 10, 2002
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    He has some Polish blood? I didn’t know that. I knew he had some Jewish heritage. Nonetheless,
    good for Ben! He’s quietly had a nice season and this is a nice reward.
     
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  13. butters59

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    Probably grandparents were born in Poland and got lucky to leave before Nazi occupation.
     
  14. m vann

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    Probably. But he’s 20…… that’s some old grandparents. I’m in.my late 30’s and my grandparents were in young adulthood during WWII. More likely it would be Ben’a great-grandparents if that’s the case.
     
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  15. butters59

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    Feb 22, 2013
    My younger kid is 27, my parents were born in 1931. His grandparents were probably born in mid thirties. By the time Ben was born they would have been in their early sixties.
     
  16. adam tash

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    I'm in my late 30s too and my grandfather escaped Warsaw as a young child during world war 1!
     
  17. Gorky

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  18. The Irish Rover

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    (One of) His parents applied for Polish citizenship and qualified, based on a Polish-born grandparent/grandparents born in the 1930s. Since Ben would have been a minor at that time, once his qualifying parent got Polish citizenship, the paperwork would have been filed to pass that citizenship on to Ben as a dependent minor child of that parent. Pretty straightforward, actually.

    Generally speaking, the more misery in a country's history, and certainly the larger emigration looms its recent past, the more ways there are to qualify for its citizenship.
     
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  19. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    damn no wonder Luxembourg will never win a World Cup :p
     
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  20. The Irish Rover

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    Striplings! Mere striplings!

    I'm in my . . . oh, never mind! :p:confused::D And my dad was born before the war - the First World War :speechless:
     
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  21. Scotty

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    Dec 15, 1999
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    So would playing for Poland's U-21 team change his international/cap-tie status in any way?
     
  22. BostonRed

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    Poland is pretty generous on going further back than most countries (though they don't like dual citizenship) and have a special provision to grant citizenship to Poles who moved to Israel.
     
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  23. adam tash

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    Jul 12, 2013
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    I looked into Polish citizenship briefly and was told the citizneship law start around 1920...and since my grandfather moved before then it wouldnt apply to me. Not sure how accurate that is or isn't....
     
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  24. BostonRed

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    They have done some modification, but here's what I found:

    Most people whose parents, grandparents or great-grandparents were born in Poland qualify for Polish citizenship through descent. In essence you need to have at least one ancestor who:

    • Was born in Poland (or one of the former territories) and resided there after 1920; or
    • Left Poland before 1920, but your ancestors’ residential address can be found in the Polish, Prussian, Russian or Austro-Hungarian registers; and
    • Maintained their Polish citizenship until the day of your birth.
     
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