Belgium, Canada, the Netherlands...

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Mel Brennan, Jul 1, 2005.

  1. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan PLANITARCHIS' BANE

    Paris Saint Germain
    United States
    Apr 8, 2002
    Baltimore
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    Paris Saint Germain FC
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    United States
    ...and now Spain.

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    Congrats to them.

    Madrid - Spain became only the fourth country to legalize same-sex marriages on Thursday, drawing a stinging rebuke from Spain's powerful Catholic church which urged the faithful to oppose the law "by all legitimate means."

    Spain's parliament gave final approval to the gay marriage law, following the lead of Belgium, Canada and the Netherlands and dealing a blow to the Catholic church in a traditional stronghold.

    "Today Spanish society is giving an answer to a group of people who for years have been humiliated, whose rights have been ignored, whose dignity has been offended...," Socialist Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero told parliament.

    Supporters in the gallery jumped to their feet to celebrate when the lower house of parliament passed the law, overriding a rejection in the upper house or Senate. Outside, dozens of same-sex couples hugged and kissed, some of them in tears.

    The law gives same-sex unions the same status as heterosexual ones, including adoption and inheritance rights...
     
  2. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
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    I can see a lot more to follow, what about Canada, i heard they were going to legalise same sex marrage, anyone else around the world have it?
     
  3. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
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    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
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    United States
    [ITN]grumbles grumbles...damn closet door. Who locked this thing!? Hey! Can anyone hear me!?!? Let me out!!! I can't come out!! The door is locked from the outside! HELP ME!! grumbles grumbles[/ITN]
     
  4. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    Spain, Canada, Belgium and The Netherlands. That's all, so far.
     
  5. Sine Pari

    Sine Pari Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    NUNYA, BIZ
    [​IMG]

    "What are big deal who really cares let people marry who they want "
     
  6. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
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    try and tell that to the conservative christians :D
     
  7. Sine Pari

    Sine Pari Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    NUNYA, BIZ

    I stay out of the South as best I can
     
  8. CrewDust

    CrewDust Member

    May 6, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    There everywhere.
     
  9. Sine Pari

    Sine Pari Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    NUNYA, BIZ

    Paranoia the destroyer...............
     
  10. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    mid-west and south is where most of them come from, but you do get them everywhere though,
     
  11. Hard Karl

    Hard Karl New Member

    Sep 3, 2002
    WB05 Compound
  12. DoyleG

    DoyleG Moderator
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    FC Edmonton
    Canada
    Jan 11, 2002
    Victoria, BC
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    Canada
    Talk that Alberta will get out of the business of marriage in Canada and would leave it to the church.
     
  13. tcmahoney

    tcmahoney New Member

    Feb 14, 1999
    Metronatural
    God, the dominoes are just flopping one-by-one, aren't they. It's like the rise of Communism, only instead of millions of people dying, a bunch of right-wing Americans just whine a lot. -- August J. Pollak
     
  14. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    I always wondered why a couple of gay guys getting married affects MY marriage in any way.

    I've also never understood why allowing gays to marry is tantamount to legalizing beastiality or allowing adults to marry minors.

    Finally, I've never understood why some folks are so damm interested in other's people's business; business that doesn't affect their quality of life one iota up or down.

    So until anyone can answer these items in any satisfactory way, I say:

    Good for Spain for telling the Catholic god squadders to go squat in a hovel!
     
  15. dmar

    dmar Member

    Jan 21, 2002
    Madrid, Spain
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    There's been a lot of noise from the ultracatholics, centered on two issues: 1. wether the new unions shuld be called "marriage" or instead something different and 2. adoption. To be fair, the second point worried to some more people than the extreme conservatives, but polls still were favorable.

    Anyway, I'm glad the law was approved.

    Live and let live!
     
  16. Footer Phooter

    Jul 23, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Guess I'm in the minority on this issue (at least here).
     
  17. Caesar

    Caesar Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Oztraya
    All three are expansions of the concept of marriage, and many people consider all three to be abnormal sexual deviancies.

    To say "Why not expand the definition of marriage to include men who love other men?", one could equally counter "why not expand the definition of marriage to include men who love animals?". Its all a matter of where you want to draw the line, according to your personal morality, rather then removing the line altogether. Therefore from a purely objective point of view, there is nothing more or less morally pure about the cruel fanatic who wants to prevent men from marrying men than the cruel fanatic who's prepared to allow it, yet still wants to prevent men from marrying donkeys. We're all setting some moral restrictions on some level or another - and really, who's to say which set is more right or more wrong?

    [/Devil's Advocate]
     
  18. el_urchinio

    el_urchinio Member

    Jun 6, 2002
    This is a ridiculous argument. Marriage is a contract, and animals cannot enter into any contracts with people. You can't marry your dog, just like you can't sell your car to your dog or have your car insured in Snoopy's name. Animals cannot enter into contracts with humans, it's that simple.
     
  19. AFCA

    AFCA Member

    Jul 16, 2002
    X X X rated
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    That is an outrage!
     
  20. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    I don't see why this is a moral or ethical issue, and why people just can't be pragmatic about this. It's simply about giving couples, whether homosexual or heterosexual, the same rights as married couples. If you're going to be against homosexual marriage, that automatically means you're also against giving unmarried heterosexual couples the same legal rights as married couples.
     
  21. 96Squig

    96Squig Member

    Feb 4, 2004
    Hanover
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    Hannover 96
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    Netherlands
    Plus, as far as I remember there was a law set up in each of the countries posters here live in saying that everyone should be equal in front of the law and the judge... same-sex marriage is a step to that goal...
     
  22. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    The same rights and the same status/prestige. Neither side is particularly interested in pragmatism.
     
  23. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    Pragmatism would be a far better starting point when looking at these issues if you ask me.
     
  24. Ray Luca

    Ray Luca BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Feb 2, 2005
    One day in a perfect world men and women will be able to marry they dogs and sheep. Just don't let them adopt.
     
  25. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
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    United States
    :rolleyes: Why do people like you insist on this argument? Equating homosexual marriage to marriage with dogs and sheep is rediculous and marks you as a hateful bigot.
     

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