beginning web design

Discussion in 'Technology' started by nicodemus, May 16, 2003.

  1. nicodemus

    nicodemus Member+

    Sep 3, 2001
    Cidade Mágica
    Club:
    PAOK Saloniki
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any pointers for beginning web design? I want to learn HTML and haven't a clue of where to begin.

    thanks in advance.
     
  2. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

    Jan 11, 1999
    New Albany, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would suggest starting with the raw basics. Get notepad, a HTML tutorial, a few sample pages (grab 'em off the net), and start there.

    Once you have a basic understanding of document structure, you can move on to more complex structures like tables and the like, and using better editors. But I suggest _not_ skipping straight to a fancy editor. Your pages will likely be better (and load faster) if you understand a bit of the underlying HTML code.
     
  3. Iason

    Iason Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    The Fort
    What foosinho said, and also, have lots of patience.
     
  4. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

    Jan 11, 1999
    New Albany, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It'll take some time, for sure. And for the love of all that is holy, don't use "blink". Ever. EVER.
     
  5. nicodemus

    nicodemus Member+

    Sep 3, 2001
    Cidade Mágica
    Club:
    PAOK Saloniki
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While I've never actually done the coding, I have worked on a webpage before. I worked with some designers on what we conceptually wanted on a page. I'm not a fan of all those cheesy effects. I have a minor in art and know about design, I just need to learn how to work the nuts & bolts of the stuff.
     
  6. Premium Hamatachi redded

    Sep 9, 2002
    1. run the notepad
    2. type this

    <HTML>
    <TITLE>My first web page!!</TITLE>
    <BODY>
    Welcome to my web page!!!
    </BODY>
    </HTML>

    3. save this with htm or html extension
    4. upload it with smartFTP or win32 or whatever to your host server (your isp should provide some space for you)

    now you are a web master.
     
  7. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

    Jan 11, 1999
    New Albany, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Technically, you should probably have paragraph tags around the body text. But that's a good way to start, and just add stuff inside the body tags to try out all the different features as you learn them.
     
  8. zpjohnstone

    zpjohnstone Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Finger Lakes, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yeah, the whole "click on view from your drop down menu and then select source" is the most valuable tool, but then again, I've never done .html for a living.
     
  9. fidlerre

    fidlerre Member+

    Oct 10, 2000
    Central Ohio
    yea, basically what everyone else has said...

    i learned html through a class in college, i took it just for the hell of it and it has become very, very helpful. i use all sorts of those "fancy" programs now but you need to have that basic html understanding to really know what the heck is going on. oh yea, and like zp said...you can always "view source" and get ideas from pages you like...i have found that to be helpful on occasion.
     
  10. cosmosRIP

    cosmosRIP Member

    Jul 22, 2000
    Brooklyn NY
  11. zpjohnstone

    zpjohnstone Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Finger Lakes, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Oh, and before I forget- FRAMES ARE EVIL.
     
  12. Premium Hamatachi redded

    Sep 9, 2002
    why doesn't everyone like frames?
     
  13. fidlerre

    fidlerre Member+

    Oct 10, 2000
    Central Ohio
    frames are okay if you use them correctly...

    in web design you have your frame-snobs though no matter what, kinda like the opposite of a euro-snob in soccer
     
  14. Premium Hamatachi redded

    Sep 9, 2002
    ic. for me stylesheet is the most useless feature in web design.
     
  15. cosmosRIP

    cosmosRIP Member

    Jul 22, 2000
    Brooklyn NY
    nicodemus - don't listen to this, after you've got the hang of html, learn all you can about stylesheets.
     
  16. zpjohnstone

    zpjohnstone Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Finger Lakes, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This document pretty much sums it up.
     
  17. kerpow

    kerpow New Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    There are some good replies here but it depends what you want to do. If you just want to put together a nice site of your own read a few tuts, play with notepad and once your familair with the basics move onto Frontpage. After about a month you will be completely familiar with Links, Tables, page layout and the structure of a site. You can then move onto more complex stuff like Forms, Stylesheets and Javascript.

    If you want to start web design as part of a career move you'd be better off buying a book and following the labs for a more in depth understanding.

    Frames were good in 1996 :)
     
  18. highgarden

    highgarden New Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Richmond, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. nicodemus

    nicodemus Member+

    Sep 3, 2001
    Cidade Mágica
    Club:
    PAOK Saloniki
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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