Been Waiting For This Moment.. All My Life.. Oh Madrid! - Welcome Eden Hazard

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  1. 4x4s

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    He had zero serious injuries in his entire career. Stop this.
     
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  2. Hendrix22

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    So that metal plate just somehow mysteriously appeared in his ankle?
     
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  3. 4x4s

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    He had that surgery in 2017.

    After that surgery he played a career best season, putting up 16 goals and 15 assists in the Premier League for Chesea 2018/2019.

    So you need to come up with a new excuse.
     
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  4. J-Mezzy

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    Dude is soft as Krispy Crème donuts fresh off the oven

    that’s all there is to it
     
  5. 4x4s

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    I can see an old injury because a worry due to inflammation or an infection of sorts, but yeah. He had some work done in 2020, but Kevin Durant is out there with a piece from his thigh implanted into a different part of his body and he's still an absolute superhero.

    The players that have career impacting injuries you see it right away. Kaka, Fernando Torres, etc. Just come back completely different.
     
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  6. Lyra

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    The fact will always be that Meunière fcuked up his career. Doesn’t matter if you choose to blame it on something else!
     
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  7. gladiator guti

    Oct 31, 2005
    Pulisic missed an open net. Yikes.
     
  8. Hendrix22

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    Well if Kevin Durant is out there, that must surely be the only scenario and context in which things can happen, so the conclusion is Hazard is fat and has no passion.

    Honestly we reached new levels of post-truth here if we're going to deny that Hazard had years of being plagued by injury.

    btw, thinking that such decline can happen only because of one big injury and not a succession or reoccurrence is absolute ignorance about the way the body works.
     
  9. natenate101

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    LOL
     
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  10. 4x4s

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    Funny, I disprove your theory and you write an entire novel that provides zero proof why his drop in Form is related to injury.

    Hazard himself has constantly reiterated that he's at 100% physically.

    It's more likely that what his past regiment to be at 100% was, is simply not enough any more. It happens. Some guys don't have it in them to have a long career.
     
  11. Akramzizou

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    Before the WC though he said he isn't the Hazard of 2019 anymore because of injuries. I think his acceleration is gone, but worse is his fear of getting hurt. Seems to always shy away from contact.
     
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  12. Hendrix22

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    I'm also at 100% physically, and I'd get blown out of the water if I'm thrown out there. 100% physically of Hazard in 2018 and 100% physically of Hazard today is not the same thing. The difference between them is accounted for by the injuries that happened in between.

    I truly don't understand your insistence on framing the Hazard case as something that he solely is at fault of for being fat and a bad character. Its almost pathological. You don't lose anything by simply admitting that injuries made him a worse version of himself, one which is not good enough for a top club anymore.
     
  13. 4x4s

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    #9063 4x4s, Dec 3, 2022
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    Which injury made him a worse player?

    You mentioned the metal plate and I proved that he played the best football he ever had with it. You can admit you're wrong about things.

    He doesn't have any kind of dog in him whatsoever.
     
  14. 4x4s

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    He never was the most physically gifted player anyway. He simply is absolutely terrified of contact. It's not the injuries that made him worse, it's him being completely terrified of one occurring.

    I think he simply doesn't have what it takes to succeed in Madrid and never did to be honest. If Vinicius is such strong competition for him, being on a team with Ronaldo would completely shatter his confidence.

    It's not the first time this happened to be honest. Some players can't handle not being the main focus.
     
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  15. Hendrix22

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    https://www.transfermarkt.com/eden-hazard/verletzungen/spieler/50202

    All of them made him gradually a worse player to the point in which he is today. And if he had a metal plate while recovering injury upon injury all these years, yeah "doesn't have dog in him" is pretty ridiculious argument.


    lol you actually think that he suddenly started to be afraid of injuries without any reason for that, such as possibly....um, injuries that actually happened to him?
     
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  16. 4x4s

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    I see, everybody else never gets injured. Amazing. Poor guy.
     
  17. 4x4s

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    I'll be very blunt.

    He's been absolute trash from the first day that he signed to Madrid until the last time he wore the kit. SINCE 2019. This wasn't a slow decline. He was absolute mierda, basura, and mediocre at best since his debut in 2019 all the way to December 2022.

    So whatever made him worse, it happened on that flight from London to Madrid because that guy that played for Chelsea got lost in translation at the airport.
     
  18. Hendrix22

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    Not that it matters, since different injuries at different times affect different athletes differently, tell me who got injured as much as he did in the same period?


    As usual you're a stranger to nuances. This year he's been worse than the previous year, and the previous year he's been worse than the year before that, etc.

    In the beginning when he was still Chelsea Hazard, he was at a new club adapting to league, tactics teammates etc.

    Then when he got over the adaptation phase he started getting injured, every time he returned from injury he was not good because he needed rhythm. This should be obvious to everyone who played football.

    And then every time he played long enough to get close to that rhythm, he went down again. Further diminishing his athleticism every time.

    I get that you have an aversion for "essays" and desperately want a simple explanation that would fit in one line, but such instances are rare in this world.
     
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  19. 4x4s

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    He had a catastrophic first season (1 goal ffs) after playing career best football with Chelsea. Then in his second season, he played half as much as he did in his first season, but tripled his output. So by all metrics, his second season was better than his first.

    Find a new angle.
     
  20. Hendrix22

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    Its absurd to say that a player who has scored twice in a season has been twice as good than when he scored once in a season. In that case the output makes zero sense and only the eye test applies.

    Case in point, you can't say that today's Hazard that we just saw at the WC is as good athletically as pre injury 19/20 Hazard.

    From what I can see on transfermarkt's archive, his worst injuries happened in 19/20.
     
  21. 4x4s

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    Foot and ankle fracture were prior to him joining Real Madrid, with Belgium and Chelsea.

    Neymar has experienced the same injuries plus more and he still is at least twice the player Hazard is. Honestly.
     
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  22. Lyra

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    Hazard suffered way more injuries than Neymar through out all those years in England
     
  23. yoanaidarov

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    It must be nice when someone else is always responsible for your failures.
     
  24. Excape Goat

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    Eden Hazard had four kids: Yannis, Santi, Leo and Sammy. I can see Ly_a. Ed Sheeran chose the name Lyra for his daughter. Ed and Eden are similar enough. Ed Sheeran has an "r" in his surname. I think Lyra is either Eden Hazard's wife or mother.
     
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  25. Digital

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    lol, that's some spectacular detective work.....
     
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