Beckham Issue

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by jonasjones, Apr 12, 2003.

  1. jonasjones

    jonasjones Member

    Mar 16, 2001
    San Diego, CA
    I think Beckham is a bit over-rated. He does have some of the best passes-crosses-through balls, etc., but I dont see him dominating a mid-field unless he is playing a team of less talent. In the 2002 Argentina game, I didn't see much of him, actually, the whole ENGLAND SQUAD (!) was back in defense mode, they got that lucky break and who takes the penalty.....Beckham, ONLY because of what happened in '98. If it was any other team, I think Owen would've taken it or maybe somebody else. Beckham is good, but not GREAT, only against lower class teams.
     
  2. Mobile

    Mobile New Member

    Jul 29, 2002
    Melbourne
    We have had this discussion on here endlessly before - Beckham was only about 70% fit for the World Cup, he had broken a bone in his foot which as you can probably imagine is quite a drawback for a footballer.

    He is world class and would get into most teams in the world. When the pressure is on he almost invariably delivers and that is what makes a great player (and I know he had a crap game against Real the other day).
     
  3. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    yeah, because Beckham never takes England's penalties normally does he?
     
  4. Eh? How many chances did the Argies create? One header from a corner.
    If Argentina were so great anyway they'd have had the ability to break down the defence. Have you suddenly forgotten Owen hitting the post and Sheringhams volley at the end of a move that made Argentina look Sunday League.
    Argentina had a fantastic side though didn't they? They lost to England and Sweden.
     
  5. pololo

    pololo Member

    Jun 1, 2000
    Sweden/Stockholm
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Re: Re: Beckham Issue

    They lost only to England against a bunker defence team after a dive from Owen.
     
  6. Prenn

    Prenn Member

    Apr 14, 2000
    Ireland
    Club:
    Bolton Wanderers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: Re: Re: Beckham Issue

    It's done Italy for years why not England?
     
  7. Jawz10

    Jawz10 Moderator

    Feb 27, 1999
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Beckham Issue

    Nice try.
     
  8. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    Re: Re: Re: Beckham Issue

    We only defended deep in the last 10 minutes..
    the argies only had one shot on target in the entire game.

    Sweden on the other hand,defended with every man behind the ball for the entire game against the argies..they managed to scrape a lucky draw.
    But they got slapped by the "mighty" senegal in the next round so it didnt really matter.What a bunch of jokers.
     
  9. vico

    vico Member

    Aug 6, 2001
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Beckham Issue

    you should admire senegal for defeating sweden, they did what england isn't capable of doing
     
  10. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Beckham Issue

    No ,I dont admire senegal.
    They're just an average african team.

    Having a good or bad record against a small time outfit like sweden means nothing at the end of the day.
     
  11. vico

    vico Member

    Aug 6, 2001
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Beckham Issue

    having a bad record against an oufit means that you are even a smaller outfit
     
  12. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Beckham Issue

    Not really...
    norway have a positive record over Brazil...(for example)
    that says it all really...

    Losing to a team from the depths of africa in the world cup is hugely embarrassing.
     
  13. vico

    vico Member

    Aug 6, 2001
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Beckham Issue

    not having defeated sweden for almost 4 decades is even more embarrassing
     
  14. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Beckham Issue

    Not for me it isnt....
    I wouldnt exchange a poor record against the turnips for a world cup defeat to senegal.
    I dont think I could look myself in the mirror if I supported a team that got beat by senegal in the world cup.
     
  15. vico

    vico Member

    Aug 6, 2001
    Stockholm, Sweden
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    at least we didn't got beat by england

    i don't think i could look myself in the mirror if i supported a team that hasn't defeated sweden for almost four decades
     
  16. Brainodo

    Brainodo New Member

    Jan 17, 2002
    Hoboken
    You are a boring repetitive twat.
     
  17. DaveUnited

    DaveUnited New Member

    Apr 17, 2003
    England are overrated, egotistical and triumphalist.
    I'd like to see England try and beat team U.S.A now.
     
  18. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    The debate was england vs. argentina..

    Typical egotistical yanks...cant write a post without mentioning themselves and bigging themselves up.
    Sickening IMHO.
     
  19. nowhere

    nowhere New Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Beckham Issue

    It probably is.
     
  20. vico

    vico Member

    Aug 6, 2001
    Stockholm, Sweden
    quite natural since most of them are descendants of english people
     
  21. hala-cosmos

    hala-cosmos Member

    Apr 15, 2003


    sweden, the same 'small time' outfit that england , often hyped as a 'big time' team, still hasnt beaten in 30-some odd years
     
  22. Prenn

    Prenn Member

    Apr 14, 2000
    Ireland
    Club:
    Bolton Wanderers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    This from the guy who thought George Best was English...
     
  23. bocatuna

    bocatuna New Member

    Aug 8, 2002
    England
    Really ! I did not know that. I must pay more attention to these boards.
     
  24. Prenn

    Prenn Member

    Apr 14, 2000
    Ireland
    Club:
    Bolton Wanderers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Fixed your post, you shouldn't get involved in things unless you know the history behind it... like this England/Sweden debate for example.
     
  25. vico

    vico Member

    Aug 6, 2001
    Stockholm, Sweden
    george best was too good to be english
     

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