Because the Super Bowl halftime show sucks - NSROT [18]

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  1. Case

    Case Member

    May 5, 2004
    Cambridge, England
    I don't get the tactics at all in Rugby, surely it's just about moving the ball from side to side, interjecting some penetrative runs and hope to spring gaps? As for the kicking for territory well thats obv but is sooo often poorly executed or done at naive times. Football, BECAUSE u stop after EVERY play, decide what ur gonna do with the ball whilst the defence then has to guess what it think's ur gonna do, how to react to that and what to do if they're wrong, it's by far the most tactical game outside of a chess board. Even down to the individual, like u get guys deliberately show their routes only to bluff the defender so that u give them the same tell then do something else later in the game.

    Also 40-20s in league, which sure I like the skill involved drawing defenders away from the line to let u kick a bouncer inbounds, but still, I grew up in a soccer mindset whereby kicking the ball out of play was the worst thing u could ever do! + it makes no sense that the penalty for a foul is assessed subjectively twice, I mean if u have an awesome kicker u can get a foul inside ur own 22, hoof it a mile and be in drop-goal range from the lineout, whereas the same foul against a team without such a kicker isn't punished equitably... Sure it's always subjective as Juninho P can hit a freekick on target from 40 whereas Becks can only manage 30, but the whole "that guy fouled u, u can have the ball wherever u can kick it too" logic seems flawed...kinda like punishments for crimes being less severe if you're rich enough to afford an expensive lawyer...oh look Rugby Union managed to get me back to institutionalised hegemony again, funny that :rolleyes:

    Well possibly now im old and fragile, but in my 3 years playing county union I never got injured once....

    And Corona, I couldn't agree with you more, only I am neither ignorant nor fearful (apart from a toff trying to bum me in a Union shower!), but it's AMAZING how many rugby meatheads I have to listen to the same ignorant BS from....

    Sanchy, to change topic I hate the african cup of nations becoz I haven't been able to watch much of it at all-can't even tel u who still in it!!! Always feel almost racist tho as I do genuinely see a very african style played by players, noticable when those employed over here adapt their style so notably! U do gotta love the passion they play with tho, Drogs is like a stand-up leader of Men for the Coast and not the whiny prick he is at Cheatski
     
  2. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Full disclosure: I grew in the United States and did not start watching Rugby until I was 18. I still only watch internationals, and it does not rank as a favorite sport of mine, but neither does American football. Therefore my understanding of Rugby's tactics is almost nothing. But I will say that of all the sports I fully understand, i.e. not Rugby, football is the one the depends the most on the strategy and construction of play by the coach. As far as everyone bashing American football, this is exactly the same kind of thing that happens in the US with regards to Association Football or soccer. It's a sad thing for me when people refuse to attempt to understand a new sport. I could have simply stated that rugby was boring the first time I saw because I did not get it, but I kept watching and respect it as a good sport.


    With regards to commercialization: I would say that football/soccer is not much better with regards to advertisements and promos. Sure they don't have ads during the game, but I mean the biggest thing on the jersey is the teams sponsor! We should all agree that sports in general have become so important to our culture, that advertisers easily recognize its importance and want in on the action. I do fully contend that it is impossible to watch an NFL game anymore for myself, simply because there are too many commercials during the game.
     
  3. Case

    Case Member

    May 5, 2004
    Cambridge, England
    My bad, I thought u were taking a cheap pop at me!
    I've played a decent amount of rugby over the years and whilst it is a laugh to play it really does frustrate me to watch. Mebe not so bad now but when Union first became professionalised it really grated me that the players still had amateur skill levels. I look at tut'league, aussie rules, gaelic football and american football and they all just seem to make alot more sense than union.
    I guess my viewing of the NFL is scewed as im priviledged to be in the UK, here channels goto studio pundits instead of commercial alot of the time, and I really find that informative and rewarding to watch. I have got NASN this past year and it is ALOT harder to watch without pundits- it doesn't even goto commercial it just spins the logo with that rubbish theme-jingle...
    As highly commercialised as it is, in many ways the OTT nature makes Football seem less so than soccer- marketing etc is sooo stringent, logo-creep is highly policed and sanctioned, u'll only see a certain few brands and they pay top dollar for the exclusivity. I admittedly dislike the uniformity of one kit manufacturer for the entire league, and only a handful of allowed footwear manufacturers, but the "No Fun League" stance to homogeny means that for all the lost individuality, players are hardly walking billboards in the way that adidas had a say in Becks's last 2 transfers and the such....
     
  4. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    After re reading your original post I have realized that were not ripping the NFL. I just get tired of ANYONE bringing down sports they don't understand. Whether it's Americans with hockey and soccer, or Brits with the NFL and Baseball. I never understand why people feel the need to rip on other sports. If you don't like it, don't watch it!

    Another huge disadvantage of the NFL for me personally is that there are NO international players. I really like the convergence of styles that international players bring to games such as football, baseball, basketball and hockey. I will still watch the 49ers when they are on Tv, but my passion for the NFL left some years ago.
     
  5. Case

    Case Member

    May 5, 2004
    Cambridge, England
    There's superbowl winners Lawrence Tynes:rolleyes: and Osi....
     
  6. Devil500

    Devil500 New Member

    Mar 7, 2006
    Section 101
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    W/e we beat Boston enough said :)

    Back home where it belongs:

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lets see how they do next season

    What is up with the Benjani transfer

    Was it done after the deadline and if so how
     
  8. KingTrezegol

    KingTrezegol New Member

    Nov 12, 2007
    Lowestoft
    the Prem reviewed it, it was supposed to be done earlier tho
     
  9. Devil500

    Devil500 New Member

    Mar 7, 2006
    Section 101
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Better than you think :)

    I wish I skipped school though.
     
  10. quixoticelixir42

    quixoticelixir42 New Member

    Jun 24, 2007
    NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    compared to everything, baseball's not that bad. but every sport's commercialized, and it's just how things go I guess. professional sports are a business now. nothing is as bad as basketball, every few minutes or so a media time out gets called for some commercials, if one of the teams doesn't call a TO.
     
  11. appleCORR7

    appleCORR7 Member+

    Jul 3, 2004
    UK
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Don't think it really matters what football team you follow. Today we should all remember.

    [​IMG]

    Such great talent lost. We should all remember the 21 people who lost their lives.

    appleCORR
     
  12. appleCORR7

    appleCORR7 Member+

    Jul 3, 2004
    UK
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    sorry about my typo. 23 not 21!!

    appleCORR
     
  13. Devil500

    Devil500 New Member

    Mar 7, 2006
    Section 101
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Busby Babes :(
     
  14. Case

    Case Member

    May 5, 2004
    Cambridge, England
    Generally a very tragic day for english football :( but also ;)
    at least the new kit looks good, white numbers make so much more sense
     
  15. appleCORR7

    appleCORR7 Member+

    Jul 3, 2004
    UK
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Absolutely. Reminds me of the away kit we wore in the 2002 WC with the traditional white lettering!

    appleCORR
     
  16. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    ffs, no offence but im up to my eyeballs in this busby babes stuff

    rip and everything but u can't escape it

    tragic accident, but does anyone remember the 100+ who died on that fatefull concorde flight?

    its just my opinion....but its being pushed on us over and over....i hate to say it, but if any other 'lesser' team suffered the same loss, would it be as prominant?

    regardless

    lakers are on tonight on raptorsnation.net

    the gasol trade is awesome, phil jackson has a decent line up when bynums back!
     
  17. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    In 1972 the University of Marshall's Gridiron football team was also involved in a tragic plane crash. With all of the different clubs, flying all over the world, in different countries and even in different sports. It is quite remarkable that this has not happened more often.
     
  18. Tony Dellbird

    Tony Dellbird English and Proud

    Mar 26, 2004
    Jolly Ol' England
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England

    How can you say that, it's been one day? This is barely even remembered as a minutes silence at most venues. How do you feel about Hillsbrough, that is one over played tragedy if ever there was one.
     
  19. Case

    Case Member

    May 5, 2004
    Cambridge, England
    At the risk of being faceciously disrespectful, think about the poor Harchester United fans, for whom such tragedy was a seasonal occurance....

    Im still very intrigued to see if manufacturers are gonna cash in on it, I heard the ManC shirt won't be going on sale, but at the same time surely the only people who would buy it are infact those who strongly want to show their support and commemorate it so why shouldn't they be able to rep their passion...
    Still think the black boot thing is gonna lead us to the Mercurial SLs on the boy, who is in need of inspiration after a veritable drought not scoring for a second consecutive game....
     
  20. Tony Dellbird

    Tony Dellbird English and Proud

    Mar 26, 2004
    Jolly Ol' England
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Ahh Case. You do make me laugh mate.
     
  21. appleCORR7

    appleCORR7 Member+

    Jul 3, 2004
    UK
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Oh God Case!!

    But to be honest i was thinking the same thing earlier. I can't believe they got away with the over fetched storyline.

    Munich has been one day, its only in the public attention so much today because its been 50 years since the disaster. Manchester United never normally shove it anyone elses face although they remember it every year. Its a personal thing to the club, its just been pushed into the spotlight as 50 years is a significant anniversary.

    appleCORR
     
  22. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    fair enough

    just expressing my opinion....

    dellci i agree, and not enough has been focussed on the idiot scouse fans who pushed their way in and caused the death of their own teams fans!
     
  23. Mr Vexed

    Mr Vexed New Member

    Jun 23, 2006
    The Endz, LDN
    must say i hate man u and i dont really care about it. wasnt even born then, shit like that happens every day why are they any different. and i am a bit tired of it, sky sports news harping on about it. its all just a bit tired if you ask me.

    world wars fair enough, maybe even september 11, but this was 23 people that died in an accident. hardly a tragedy imo.
     
  24. red & wite army

    red & wite army I ain't no drama queen!

    Jan 15, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I just have one question: Why did the Busby Babes shirts come out last season, if they knew that the 50th Anniversary would take place this season?
     
  25. Shrapnac

    Shrapnac Member

    Feb 19, 2007
    New Jersey
    They'll be wearing a custom 1950s style kit with the starting 11 wearing numbers 1-11 and no sponsor this Sunday.

    Last year's shirt was more of a 50s inspired shirt than a commemorative.
     

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