Barbados targets Villa striker and overseas players for probable US match

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by dcpohl, Jan 25, 2008.

  1. dcpohl

    dcpohl Member+

    Feb 9, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So Barbados is trying to call on players with Barbadian heritage to play for them in the upcoming WCQ's. I doubt it'll cause us any major concerns, but it should be noted and maybe even merit some discussion. This Marlon Harewood that they're attempting to call in seems like a pretty decent striker. Wiki page:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlon_Harewood
    He's scored two EPL goals this season and had a whopping 47 goals for West Ham from 2003-2007. He never broke into the England squad and Barbados is hoping he'll play for them.

    That's not the only Premier League and English born player Barbados is going after. They're also seeking a defender Emmerson Boyce of Wigan. Wiki:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson_Boyce

    Again, I'm expecting a goal fest for the US but this is worth keeping an eye on.
     
  2. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sounds not too different from facing Grenada then. Remember, the lineup Grenada fielded against us consisted of two guys who were better than anyone we had at their respective positions, both of whom were born outside Grenada (Jason Roberts was born in London, Shalrie Joseph in New York)... and their third-best field player was playing NCAA ball.
     
  3. SCBozeman

    SCBozeman Member

    Jun 3, 2001
    St. Louis
    Actually I think Joseph was born in Barbados and moved to New York in high school.

    On topic, it sounds like Barbados is taking the Jamaican "Deon-Burtonization" route. If our center defenders can't handle one Premiership player, we're in trouble. I have noticed a natura tendency for these British raised players to be utterly baffled by CONCACAF refereeing that blows fouls for any body contact.
     
  4. Heathens '87

    Heathens '87 Member

    United States
    Mar 4, 2004
    Michigan
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looking at what Guadeloupe did in the Gold Cup with some imported French players, a few quality additions can make a difference in terms of how far a team gets in CONCACAF. I don't think Barbados will be a threat to the US, but it may make for a better game and it certainly couldn't hurt their chances against Dominica.......
     
  5. Adam Zebrowski

    Adam Zebrowski New Member

    May 28, 1999
    i think you meant to say joseph was born in grenada, not barbados.....

    usa will want to control the match, control tempo, prevent barbados from any good looks, get a 2+ win at home, and have barbados forced to attack, and slice them up when they commit forward...
     
  6. TheRustyEunuch

    Oct 16, 2007
    Medellín
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Harewood is from Barbados? Interesting, he can be dangerous if he is given the opportunity.
     
  7. Hyuuga Neji

    Hyuuga Neji Member

    Nov 20, 2007
    The Bay Area
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm really not afraid of Marlon Harewood, at all. His main action for Aston Villa this season has been planting his ass on the bench for Aston Villa. Besides, he really is the perfect mark for Gooch- Harewood's big, tall and fat, I mean muscular;).
     
  8. olephill2

    olephill2 Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not overly worried either. It seems like good players from these small Caribbean countries never seem to either make that much of a difference for their national teams, or show that much commitment to them.

    Wikipedia lists Shalrie Joseph as having only 11 caps for Greneda.

    Jason Roberts, an established Premiership squad player, to my knowledge hasn't made a huge impact for Greneda.

    Marlon King is probably the best of the naturalized Jamaican forwards, and he's lit up the Championship in the past. I think he has less than 10-15 caps for Jamaica.

    Ricardo Fuller has scored bags of goals at Preston, Southampton and now Stoke over the years, and yet has only 4 goals in 32 caps according to wikipedia.

    Jason Euell is a very talented player IMO, yet has only about 5 caps for Jamaica.

    I'm sorry to keep using Jamaica as an example, because they're obviously at a higher level in terms of talent than Barbados or Greneda, but I'm much more familiar with the Jamaican player pool as a source of examples.
     
  9. Ringo

    Ringo Member

    Jun 10, 2002
    Rough and Ready
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    it's not like the US has never done this ....
     
  10. cpwilson80

    cpwilson80 Member+

    Mar 20, 2001
    Boston
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    David Regis is shocked you would bring this up.
     
  11. Davids26

    Davids26 Member

    May 31, 2000
    I don't think anyone is saying its wrong. Countries like Barbados should do everything they can to make themselves more competitive if its within the rules.

    If a player like Marlon Harewood can play internationally for a Caribbean nation it can only strengthen the Confederation.
     
  12. shinzui

    shinzui New Member

    Dec 2, 2005
    Gulf Shores
    Marlon King has been banned from representing the Jamaican national team for the last two years by his federation.

    Teams like Grenada play very few games. Hence, the low number of caps by Roberts, Joseph.
     
  13. Shaydee

    Shaydee Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    as was said Grenada don't play very many games and King is suspended.

    Fuller has had persistent knee problems the last 4 or 5 years that have pretty much derailed his career.

    Euell is another one that's had some injury problems. He held out in hopes of representing England and didn't accept a Jamaica call until the US-Jamaica match in November 2004
     
  14. olephill2

    olephill2 Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gotcha. Thanks for the info. I'm assuming Greneda don't play often because their federation lacks resources? Also, why was King banned?
     
  15. Shaydee

    Shaydee Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    lack of resources and they pretty much only play a handful of meaningful games every few years.

    as for King
    http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/01/24/sports/CB-SPT-SOC-Jamaica-King.php

    King is back with Jamaica for a friendly next week against Costa Rica.
     
  16. Adam Zebrowski

    Adam Zebrowski New Member

    May 28, 1999
    didn't grenada's national stadium get destroyed by a hurricane??
     
  17. Davids26

    Davids26 Member

    May 31, 2000
    Don't remember that, but do remember that typhoon they had during the away leg in '04. That and people watching the match from the mountain tops over looking the stadium. That would have been quite an experience -- not a bad match either.
     
  18. FW__

    FW__ Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    Chattanooga, TN
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Joseph was born in Grenada
     
  19. PALE568

    PALE568 Member

    Jun 5, 2003
    mind your own.
  20. CrewDust

    CrewDust Member

    May 6, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Barbados called in a number of players for the 06 cycle. The Head of their Fed even talked of making the Hex. They had a couple of preety big names called in. One or two players IIRC played at Millwall. Naturally Barbados fell flat on there faces and didn't make the Semi Final round. Just no team Chemistry.
     
  21. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    As a side (footsitter) note, Jason Roberts abused Eddie Pope in that 2004 series and it was becoming pretty clear even then that Eddie didn't measure up with the top level strikers (Roberts was then with Wigan in Colaship).

    Two years later ... and Bruce still didn't get the memo.
     

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