Barça-Valencia[R]

Discussion in 'Barcelona' started by Mario, Jun 14, 2003.

  1. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    No Ayala in the center of the backline, I hope we make it, hopefully Saviola might score since he did it in his last 2 matches in the albiceleste.

    Possible lineup:

    Valdes

    Reiziger Puyol DeBoer Sorin

    Cocu Mendieta Riquelme Overmars

    Kluivert Saviola
     
  2. Kobranzilla

    Kobranzilla Member

    Sep 6, 2001
    NY F'in City
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ok...we win 3-1, and now need to win next week against a celta team assured of CL play and have Real Madrid, who will need a wein for la liga title, win against Bilbao to squeak into the Uefa cup.
     
  3. Kobranzilla

    Kobranzilla Member

    Sep 6, 2001
    NY F'in City
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=98437&cc=5901

    Valencia 1-3 Barcelona: FT Report

    PA

    VALENCIA, June 15 (Primera Liga) - Barcelona kept alive their hopes of European football with a convincing victory over fallen champions Valencia, who ended the game with nine players.

    With their club`s presidential elections taking place back in Catalonia, the Barcelona players were possibly playing for their futures and responded with three vital points.

    Anything other than victory was likely to deny Barca European football for the first time in their illustrious history.

    But former Valencia favourite Gaizka Mendieta eased Barca`s nerves with the opener a minute before the break, the midfielder scoring from the penalty spot.

    Another spot-kick, this time from Patrick Kluivert, doubled Barca`s lead in the 72nd minute before his fellow Dutchman Marc Overmars made it 3-0 with 11 minutes remaining.

    Valencia, who by this time had seen John Carew and Amedeo Carboni sent off, grabbed a late consolation through a Juan Sanchez penalty three minutes from time.

    The result means Valencia now cannot grab a Champions League spot for next season and is a sorry finale to their campaign.

    Valencia`s title-winning season was built on their impressive home form where they lost just one of 19 league matches at the Mestalla.

    However this year has been a different story on the east coast and Sunday`s defeat was their sixth home loss of the season.

    Valencia coach Rafael Benitez was deflated by the result.

    ``I'm disappointed, because you always think you can get something, you build a team to do so and you're angry and disappointed when it doesn't happen.''

    This season has been a fall from grace for a side who began the season with hopes of defending their title, but who have had to settle for a place in next year's UEFA Cup.

    ``It's not a failure, it would only be that if you don't do everything possible. Now we have to see if we have more hopes and more desire next season.''

    The game turned on an incident just before half-time which saw Valencia reduced to 10 men and Barcelona take the lead.

    Barca were awarded a penalty when Mendieta was impeded inside the box.

    The decision did not go down well with the home side and Norwegian striker Carew was handed his marching orders for taking his complaints too far.

    Mendieta, who is on loan at Barca from Lazio, whom he joined from Valencia, rubbed salt into the wounds by rolling the resulting penalty into the net.

    Valencia had enjoyed the better of the openings until that point with Carew and Pablo Aimar going close, but with a man less, they were left chasing the game in the second half.

    Aimar had a chance to draw the teams level just after the hour-mark before Valencia were reduced to nine men when Carboni brought down Luis Enrique inside the box.

    Carboni was last man and it came as no surprise to see referee Evaristo Puentes Leira produce the second red card of the match.

    Kluivert took over the penalty duties from Mendieta and he made no mistake from the box, side-footing the ball to the right of Santiago Canizares.

    The Valencia goalkeeper, who is a reported summer transfer target for clubs in England, was beaten again soon after by Overmars.

    Picking the ball up unmarked some 30 yards out from goal, the flying Dutchman moved towards the area, shifted the ball onto his left foot before driving his shot through the legs of a defender and past a helpless Canizares.

    Despite the defeat, Valencia have at least managed to secure a UEFA Cup place and they salvaged a little pride as well three minutes from time through Sanchez`s penalty.

    Barca coach Raddy Antic was delighted with his side`s showing.

    ``You have to recognise the good work of these professionals, who have shown they have the pride to win a game when they need to.

    ``Barcelona looked for the victory and deserved to win the game,'' he said.

    Barca will go into the final weekend hoping to snatch a UEFA Cup spot, something that looked highly unlikely a few weeks ago.

    To do that they need to beat Celta next week and hope Athletic Bilbao don't win in the Santiago Bernabeu against Real Madrid, who are playing for the league title.

    ``We have to carry on like this because we have a great objective ahead of us.''

    ``I hope there is a great atmosphere in the Nou Camp against Celta because we will be playing for a place in Europe,'' added Antic.
     
  4. Juanele

    Juanele Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    Colorado, US
    Here is the ideal scenario. Barça win of course, Real Sociedad wins, and Real Madrid draws with Bilbao.

    If this happens then Barça goes to UEFA Cup, and Real Sociedad wins the league. Happy day! :D
     
  5. Kobranzilla

    Kobranzilla Member

    Sep 6, 2001
    NY F'in City
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like your scenario much better :)
     
  6. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    Im afraid you're wrong, with that results we are in but madrid wins la Liga!!! just look at this:

    Code:
    Pos Team G W D L F A GD Pt 
    1 REAL MADRID 36 20 12 4 83 41 42 75 
    2 REAL SOCIEDAD 36 21 10 5 68 45 23 73 
    
    given that goal average is the tie breaker, rm wins the league! 75+1=76 :( Real Sociedad need to win 20-0 to win the title!

    Code:
    Pos Team G W D L F A GD Pt 
    6 ATH. BILBAO 36 14 10 12 62 58 4 55 
    7 BARCELONA 36 13 11 12 61 47 14 53 
    
    We have a better record Gd=+14 not that bad!
     
  7. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    BTW if we already set a record in this season, for the first time we have won 3 in a row, our best was just 2! if we win vs Celta it will be 4 in row, wow! :( its not exciting since we are much better than that!
     
  8. Juanele

    Juanele Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    Colorado, US
    First tie break is goal difference between the two (the head to head games) teams, Mario.

    Real Sociedad holds that tie break 4-2 (0-0, 4-2)

    Barcelona hold the edge over Bilbao 4-2 (2-0, 2-2)

    So my scenario still stands correct ;)
     
  9. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    hmm Im not sure that's right Juanele.
     
  10. Kobranzilla

    Kobranzilla Member

    Sep 6, 2001
    NY F'in City
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.fcbarcelona.com/eng/noticias/noticias/n03061616.shtml


    The struggle between Barca and Bilbao for the last UEFA Cup place will not be decided until the final whistle of the last game of the season.


    Just as two seasons ago, when a Rivaldo goal in the last match of the season qualified Barca for the Champions League, the doorway to Europe will be open until the last moment. Bilbao, Barca's rival for the last UEFA Cup place, disposed of Deportivo at the weekend but finish with an even trickier match against league title contenders Real Madrid in the Bernabeu. Barcelona play host to Celta, who assured the fourth Champions League spot last Sunday and have little to motivate them in their visit to the Camp Nou.

    The different permutations

    Whatever happens in the Real Madrid v Bilbao clash, FC Barcelona has to win against Celta. Barca go into the game two points adrift of the Basques so one point from a draw won't be enough. If Athletic Bilbao lose, they still qualify for Europe if Barca draw or lose. If Bilbao draw against Madrid and Barca beat Celta, the two clubs will tie on 56 points. In this case Barca will qualify because of their superior head-to-head goal average, having beaten Bilbao 0-2 in San Mamés and drawn 2-2 in the Camp Nou.

    All four teams go into the final game on the back of a good run of form, especially Jupp Heynckes' Bilbao who are unbeaten in ten games, while Barcelona have won their last three in a row.

    A thorn in the side of Valencia

    FC Barcelona seems to have specialised in spoiling Valencia's Champions League aspirations. Last weekend's 1-3 in the Mestalla pushed Valencia out of the major European competition for the second time in three years. Valencia will have to settle for the UEFA Cup now that Celta have beaten them to fourth place.

    Valencia is fifth in the table with 57 points and can't catch Celta on 61. Two seasons ago, in the last game, Brazilian ace Rivaldo scored a fantastic hat trick, including a spectacular last-minute bicycle kick, which gave Barca Champions League football at the expense of Valencia. Valencia, managed at the time by Inter Milan's Hector Cúper, had to make do with the UEFA Cup.
     
  11. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    My bad, ok head to head average goals, one more reason to hate my local media!
     

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