Ballon d'Or awards revisited by BigSoccer users

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by IceBlood34, Feb 18, 2022.

  1. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
  2. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    1980 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer# panel consensus
    1
    Diego Maradona (Argentina/Argentinos Juniors) - 193
    2 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge (W.Germany/Bayern Munich) - 156.5
    3 Zico (Brazil/Flamengo) - 112.5
    4 Bernd Schuster (W.Germany/Cologne/Barcelona) - 43.5
    5 Michel Platini (France/St Etienne) - 30
    6 Jan Ceulemans (Belgium/Club Brugge) - 11
    7 Waldemar Victorino (Uruguay/Nacional) - 7
    8 Kevin Keegan (England/Hamburg) - 6
    9 Paul Breitner (W.Germany/Bayern Munich) - 5
    10 Manfred Kaltz (W.Germany/Hamburg) - 4.5
    11 Kenny Dalglish (Scotland/Liverpool), Horst Hrubesch (W.Germany/Hamburg), John Robertson (Scotland/Nottingham Forest) - 4
    14 Toninho Cerezo (Brazil/Atletico Mineiro) - 3
    15 Paulo Roberto Falcao (Brazil/Internacional/Roma) - 1

    1981 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer# panel consensus
    1
    Zico (Brazil/Flamengo) - 193
    2 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge (W.Germany/Bayern Munich) - 134
    3 Diego Maradona (Argentina/Argentinos Juniors/Boca Juniors) - 120
    4 Michel Platini (France/St Etienne) - 53.5
    5 Paul Breitner (W.Germany/Bayern Munich) - 47.5
    6 Graeme Souness (Scotland/Liverpool) - 5
    7 Paulo Roberto Falcao (Brazil/Roma), Junior (Brazil/Flamengo), John Wark (Scotland/Ipswich Town) - 4
    10 Bernd Schuster (W.Germany/Barcelona) - 2
    11 Liam Brady (Republic of Ireland/Juventus), Leandro (Brazil/Flamengo), Dino Zoff (Italy/Juventus) - 1

    1982 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer# panel consensus
    1
    Zico (Brazil/Flamengo) - 187
    2 Paulo Roberto Falcao (Brazil/Roma) - 110
    3 Paolo Rossi (Italy/Juventus) - 75
    4 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge (W.Germany/Bayern Munich) - 46
    5 Alain Giresse (France/Bordeaux) - 45
    6 Gaetano Scirea (Italy/Juventus) - 33
    7 Socrates (Brazil/Corinthians) - 15
    8 Michel Platini (France/St Etienne/Juventus) - 13
    9 Bruno Conti (Italy/Roma) - 12
    10 Marco Tardelli (Italy/Juventus) - 8
    11 Zbigniew Boniek (Poland/Widzew Lodz/Juventus), Diego Maradona (Argentina/Boca Juniors/Barcelona) - 7
    13 Paul Breitner (W.Germany/Bayern Munich), Junior (Brazil/Flamengo) Quini (Spain/Barcelona) - 3
    16 Franco Causio (Italy/Udinese), Fernando Morena (Uruguay/Penarol) - 2
    18 Antonio Cabrini (Italy/Juventus), Dino Zoff (Italy/Juventus) - 1

    1983 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer# panel consensus
    1
    Michel Platini (France/Juventus) - 203
    2 Paulo Roberto Falcao (Brazil/Roma) - 114
    3 Zico (Brazil/Flamengo/Udinese) - 95
    4 Kenny Dalglish (Scotland/Liverpool) - 60
    5 Socrates (Brazil/Corinthians) - 48
    6 Diego Maradona (Argentina/Barcelona) - 29
    7 Felix Magath (W.Germany/Hamburg) - 9
    8 Enzo Francescoli (Uruguay/River Plate) - 5
    9 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge (W.Germany/Bayern Munich) - 3
    10 Renato Gaucho (Brazil/Gremio) - 2
    11 Bruno Conti (Italy/Roma), Rinat Dasaev (Soviet Union/Spartak Moscow), Bryan Robson (England/Manchester United), Graeme Souness (Scotland/Liverpool) - 1

    1984 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer# panel consensus
    1
    Michel Platini (France/Juventus) - 222
    2 Jean Tigana (France/Bordeaux) - 99
    3 Ian Rush (Wales/Liverpool) - 88
    4 Zico (Brazil/Udinese) - 53
    5 Paulo Roberto Falcao (Brazil/Roma) - 26
    6 Enzo Francescoli (Uruguay/River Plate) - 19
    7 Preben Elkjaer (Denmark/Lokeren/Verona) - 18
    8 Alain Giresse (France/Bordeaux) - 10
    9 Romerito (Paraguay/Fluminense) - 6
    10 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge (W.Germany/Bayern Munich/Inter Milan) - 5
    11 Ricardo Bochini (Argentina/Independiente), Fernando Chalana (Portugal/Benfica/Bordeaux), Diego Maradona (Argentina/Barcelona/Napoli) - 4
    14 Jorge Burruchaga (Argentina/Independiente) - 3
    15 Johan Cruyff (Netherlands/Feyenoord), Morten Olsen (Denmark/Anderlecht), Hugo Sanchez (Mexico/Atletico Madrid), Didier Six (France/Mulhouse/Aston Villa), Graeme Souness (Scotland/Liverpool/Sampdoria) - 2
    20 Zbigniew Boniek (Poland/Juventus), Karlheinz Forster (W.Germany/Stuttgart), Ruud Gullit (Netherlands/Feyenoord) - 1

    1985 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer# panel consensus
    1
    Michel Platini (France/Juventus) - 212
    2 Diego Maradona (Argentina/Napoli) - 143
    3 Preben Elkjaer (Denmark/Verona) - 99
    4 Bernd Schuster (W.Germany/Barcelona) - 53
    5 Zbigniew Boniek (Poland/Juventus/Roma) - 21
    6 Claudio Borghi (Argentina/Argentinos Juniors) - 10
    7 Hans-Peter Briegel (W.Germany/Verona) - 7
    8 Hugo Sanchez (Mexico/Atletico Madrid/Real Madrid) - 6
    9 Michael Laudrup (Denmark/Lazio/Juventus) - 4.5
    10 Enzo Francescoli (Uruguay/River Plate) - 3.5
    11 Alain Giresse (France/Bordeaux) - 3
    12 Junior (Brazil/Torino), Peter Reid (England/Everton), Romerito (Paraguay/Fluminense), Karl-Heinz Rummenigge (W.Germany/Inter Milan) - 2
    16 Ian Rush (Wales/Liverpool), Rudi Voller (W.Germany/Werder Bremen) - 1

    1986 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer# panel consensus
    1
    Diego Maradona (Argentina/Napoli) - 222
    2 Gary Lineker (England/Everton/Barcelona) - 111
    3 Igor Belanov (Soviet Union/Dynamo Kyiv) - 68
    4 Careca (Brazil/Sao Paulo) - 41
    5 Michel Platini (France/Juventus) - 34
    6 Emilio Butragueno (Spain/Real Madrid) - 24
    7 Ruud Gullit (Netherlands/PSV Eindhoven) - 12
    8 Michael Laudrup (Denmark/Juventus) - 11
    9 Preben Elkjaer (Denmark/Verona) - 9
    10 Hugo Sanchez (Mexico/Real Madrid) - 8
    11 Antonio Alzamendi (Uruguay/Penarol/River Plate) - 7
    12 Manuel Amoros (France/Monaco), Jorge Burruchaga (Argentina/Nantes), Lothar Matthaus (W.Germany/Bayern Munich) - 5
    15 Marco van Basten (Netherlands/Ajax) - 4

    16 Helmuth Duckadam (Romania/Steaua Bucharest), Oleksandr Zavarov (Soviet Union/Dynamo Kyiv) - 2
    18 Bebeto (Brazil/Flamengo), Enzo Francescoli (Uruguay/River Plate/Racing Club de Paris), Morten Olsen (Denmark/Anderlecht/Cologne), Jorge Valdano (Argentina/Real Madrid) - 1

    1987 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer# panel consensus
    1
    Diego Maradona (Argentina/Napoli) - 203
    2 Ruud Gullit (Netherlands/PSV Eindhoven/AC Milan) - 138
    3 Paulo Futre (Portugal/Porto/Atletico Madrid) - 81
    4 Marco van Basten (Netherlands/Ajax/AC Milan) - 67
    5 Hugo Sanchez (Mexico/Real Madrid) - 57
    6 Emilio Butragueno (Spain/Real Madrid) - 9
    7 Lothar Matthaus (W.Germany/Bayern Munich), Carlos Valderrama (Colombia/Deportivo Cali) - 6
    9 Gary Lineker (England/Barcelona), Rabeh Madjer (Algeria/Porto), Renato Gaucho (Brazil/Gremio/Flamengo) - 2
    12 Michel (Spain/Real Madrid), Jean-Marie Pfaff (Belgium/Bayern Munich) - 1

    1988 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer# panel consensus
    1
    Ruud Gullit (Netherland/AC Milan) - 173
    2 Marco Van Basten (Netherlands/AC Milan) - 134
    3 Diego Maradona (Argentina/Napoli) - 129
    4 Ronald Koeman (Netherlands/PSV Eindhoven) - 74
    5 Frank Rijkaard (Netherlands/Ajax/Real Zaragoza/AC Milan) - 23
    6 Hugo Sanchez (Mexico/Real Madrid) - 7
    7 John Barnes (England/Liverpool) - 6
    8 Lothar Matthaus (W.Germany/Bayern Munich/Inter Milan) - 5
    9 Franco Baresi (Italy/AC Milan) - 4
    10 Alexei Mikhailichenko (Soviet Union/Dynamo Kyiv), Ruben Paz (Uruguay/Racing Club de Avellenada) - 3
    12 Hugo de Leon (Uruguay/Logrones/Nacional), Dragan Stojkovic (Yugoslavia/Red Star Belgrade) - 2
    14 Giussepe Giannini (Italy/Roma), Glenn Hoddle (England/Monaco), Wim Kieft (Netherlands/PSV Eindhoven), Hans van Breukelen (Netherlands/PSV Eindhoven), Gianluca Vialli (Italy/Sampdoria) - 1

    1989 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer# panel consensus
    1
    Marco van Basten (Netherlands/AC Milan) - 212
    2 Diego Maradona (Argentina/Napoli) - 116
    3 Franco Baresi (Italy/AC Milan) - 90.5
    4 Lothar Matthaus (W.Germany/Inter Milan) - 53
    5 Bebeto (Brazil/Flamengo/Vasco da Gama) - 33
    6 Frank Rijkaard (Netherlands/AC Milan) - 29
    7 Ruud Gullit (Netherlands/AC Milan) - 11
    8 Careca (Brazil/Napoli) - 9
    9 Romario (Brazil/PSV Eindhoven) - 7

    10 Bernd Schuster (W.Germany/Real Madrid) - 4
    11 Dragan Stojkovic (Yugoslavia/Red Star Belgrade) - 3
    12 Hugo Sanchez (Mexico/Real Madrid) - 2
    13 Baltazar (Brazil/Atletico Madrid), Andreas Brehme (W.Germany/Inter Milan), Gheorghe Hagi (Romania/Steaua Bucharest) - 1
    16 Jean-Pierre Papin (France/Marseille) - 0.5
     
  3. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    1990 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer# panel consensus
    1
    Lothar Matthaus (W.Germany/Inter Milan) - 220
    2 Diego Maradona (Argentina/Napoli) - 137
    3 Franco Baresi (Italy/AC Milan) - 90
    4 Andreas Brehme (W.Germany/Inter Milan) - 55
    5 Marco van Basten (Netherlands/AC Milan) - 23
    6 Paul Gascoigne (England/Tottenham Hotspur), Salvatore Schillaci (Italy/Juventus) - 21
    8 Hugo Sanchez (Mexico/Real Madrid) - 7
    9 Roberto Baggio (Italy/Fiorentina/Juventus), Dragan Stojkovic (Yugoslavia/Red Star Belgrade/Marseille) - 6

    11 Sergio Goycochea (Argentina/Millonarios/Racing Club de Avellanados), Frank Rijkaard (Netherlands/AC Milan) - 3
    13 John Barnes (England/Liverpool), Roberto Donadoni (Italy/AC Milan), Jurgen Klinsmann (W.Germany/Inter Milan), Jean-Pierre Papin (France/Marseille) - 2
    17 Bebeto (Brazil/Vasco da Gama), Guido Buchwald (W.Germany/Stuttgart), Enzo Francescoli (Uruguay/Marseille/Cagliari), Jurgen Kohler (W.Germany/Bayern Munich), Enzo Scifo (Belgium/Auxerre) - 1

    1991 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer# panel consensus
    1
    Jean-Pierre Papin (France/Marseille) - 177
    2 Lothar Matthaus (Germany/Inter Milan) - 152
    3 Dejan Savicevic (Yugoslavia/Red Star Belgrade) - 129
    4 Darko Pancev (Yugoslavia/Red Star Belgrade) - 43.5
    5 Robert Prosinecki (Yugoslavia/Red Star Belgrade) - 35
    6 Gianluca Vialli (Italy/Sampdoria) - 14.5
    7 Roberto Mancini (Italy/Sampdoria) - 12
    8 Chris Waddle (England/Marseille) - 10.5
    9 Gabriel Batistuta (Argentina/Boca Juniors/Fiorentina) - 8
    10 Frank Rijkaard (Netherlands/AC Milan) - 5
    11 Rai (Brazil/Sao Paulo) - 4
    12 Dennis Bergkamp (Netherlands/Ajax), Claudio Caniggia (Argentina/Atalanta), Hugo Sanchez (Mexico/Real Madrid) - 2
    15 Michael Laudrup (Denmark/Barcelona) - 1.5
    16 Roberto Baggio (Italy/Juventus), Stefan Effenberg (Germany/Bayern Munich), Paul Gascoigne (England/Tottenham Hotspur), Romario (Brazil/PSV Eindhoven), Oscar Ruggeri (Argentina/Velez Sarsfield), Hristo Stoichkov (Bulgaria/Barcelona) - 1

    1992 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer# panel consensus
    1
    Marco van Basten (Netherlands/AC Milan) - 166
    2 Hristo Stoichkov (Bulgaria/Barcelona) - 111
    3 Michael Laudrup (Denmark/Barcelona) - 110
    4 Dennis Bergkamp (Netherlands/Ajax) - 86
    5 Peter Schmeichel (Denmark/Manchester United) - 38
    6 Rai (Brazil/Sao Paulo) - 30
    7 Ronald Koeman (Netherlands/Barcelona) - 16.5
    8 Thomas Hassler (Germany/Roma) - 5.5
    9 Ruud Gullit (Netherlands/AC Milan) - 5
    10 Frank Rijkaard (Netherlands/AC Milan) - 4.5
    11 Paolo Maldini (Italy/AC Milan) - 4
    12 Bebeto (Brazil/Vasco da Gama/Deportivo La Coruna), Brian Laudrup (Denmark/Bayern Munich/Fiorentina) - 3
    14 Franco Baresi (Italy/AC Milan), Junior (Brazil/Flamengo) - 1
    16 Enzo Scifo (Belgium/Torino) - 0.5

    1993 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer# panel consensus
    1
    Roberto Baggio (Italy/Juventus) - 225
    2 Dennis Bergkamp (Netherlands/Ajax/Inter Milan) - 88
    3 Romario (Brazil/PSV Eindhoven/Barcelona) - 73
    4 Michael Laudrup (Denmark/Barcelona) - 68
    5 Eric Cantona (France/Manchester United) - 41
    6 Paolo Maldini (Italy/AC Milan) - 18
    7 Alen Boksic (Croatia/Marseille/Lazio) - 16
    8 Hristo Stoichkov (Bulgaria/Barcelona) - 13
    9 Franco Baresi (Italy/AC Milan) - 12
    10 Abedi Pele (Ghana/Marseille/Lyon) - 7
    11 Bebeto (Brazil/Deportivo La Coruna), Carlos Valderrama (Colombia/Independiente Medellin/Atletico Junior) - 5
    13 Cafu (Brazil/Sao Paulo), Franck Sauzee (France/Marseille/Atalanta) - 4
    15 Ruud Gullit (Netherlands/AC Milan/Sampdoria) - 3
    16 Rai (Brazil/Sao Paulo/Paris St Germain), Giussepe Signori (Italy/Lazio) - 2
    18 Basile Boli (France/Marseille) - 1

    1994 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer# panel consensus
    1
    Romario (Brazil/Barcelona) - 213
    2 Hristo Stoichkov (Bulgaria/Barcelona) - 124
    3 Roberto Baggio (Italy/Juventus) - 108
    4 Paolo Maldini (Italy/AC Milan) - 75.5
    5 Gheorghe Hagi (Romania/Brescia/Barcelona) - 31.5
    6 Franco Baresi (Italy/AC Milan) - 6.5
    7 Michael Laudrup (Denmark/Barcelona/Real Madrid), Giuseppe Signori (Italy/Lazio) - 5
    9 Bebeto (Brazil/Deportivo La Coruna) - 4.5
    10 Eric Cantona (France/Manchester United) - 3
    11 Ruud Gullit (Netherlands/Sampdoria/AC Milan) - 2.5
    12 Jose Luis Chilavert (Paraguay/Velez Sarsfield), Jurgen Klinsmann (Germany/Monaco/Tottenham Hotspur), Jari Litmanen (Finland/Ajax) - 2
    15 Tomas Brolin (Sweden/Parma) - 1.5
    16 Dejan Savicevic (Yugoslavia/AC Milan) - 1

    1995 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer# panel consensus
    1
    Jari Litmanen (Finland/Ajax) - 173
    2 George Weah (Liberia/Paris St Germain/AC Milan) - 121
    3 Jurgen Klinsmann (Germany/Tottenham Hotspur/Bayern Munich) - 71
    4 Michael Laudrup (Denmark/Real Madrid) - 52.5
    5 Paolo Maldini (Italy/AC Milan) - 27
    6 Gianfranco Zola (Italy/Parma) - 23
    7 Enzo Francescoli (Uruguay/River Plate) - 22
    8 Ronaldo (Brazil/PSV Eindhoven) - 21
    9 Alan Shearer (England/Blackburn Rovers) - 18.5

    10 Frank Rijkaard (Netherlands/Ajax) - 13
    11 Matthias Sammer (Germany/Borussia Dortmund) - 10
    12 Alessandro Del Piero (Italy/Juventus) - 8
    13 Gianluca Vialli (Italy/Juventus) - 7
    14 Patrick Kluivert (Netherlands/Ajax) - 5
    15 Dejan Savicevic (Yugoslavia/AC Milan) - 4
    16 Gabriel Batistuta (Argentina/Fiorentina), Brian Laudrup (Denmark/Rangers) - 3
    18 Marc Overmars (Netherlands/Ajax) - 2
    19 Rudi Voller (Germany/Bayer Leverkusen), Ivan Zamorano (Chile/Real Madrid) - 1

    1996 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer# panel consensus
    1
    Matthias Sammer (Germany/Borussia Dortmund) - 159
    2 Ronaldo (Brazil/PSV Eindhoven/Barcelona) - 113
    3 George Weah (Liberia/AC Milan) - 77.5
    4 Alan Shearer (England/Blackburn Rovers/Newcastle United) - 71.5
    5 Alessandro Del Piero (Italy/Juventus) - 43
    6 Jari Litmanen (Finland/Ajax) - 31
    7 Eric Cantona (France/Manchester United) - 29
    8 Jurgen Klinsmann (Germany/Bayern Munich) - 25
    9 Jose Luis Chilavert (Paraguay/Velez Sarsfield), Davor Suker (Croatia/Sevilla/Real Madrid) - 4
    11 Nwankwu Kanu (Nigeria/Ajax/Inter Milan), Paolo Maldini (Italy/AC Milan) - 3
    13 Enzo Francescoli (Uruguay/River Plate), Predrag Mijatovic (Yugoslavia/Valencia/Real Madrid), Zinedine Zidane (France/Bordeaux/Juventus) - 2
    16 Karel Poborsky (Czech Republic/Slavia Prague/Manchester United), Peter Schmeichel (Denmark/Manchester United) - 1

    1997 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer# panel consensus
    1
    Ronaldo (Brazil/Barcelona/Inter Milan) - 227
    2 Zinedine Zidane (France/Juventus) - 120
    3 Roberto Carlos (Brazil/Real Madrid) - 76
    4 Dennis Bergkamp (Netherlands/Arsenal) - 56
    5 Predrag Mijatovic (Yugoslavia/Real Madrid) - 27
    6 Romario (Brazil/Valencia/Flamengo) - 21
    7 Andreas Moller (Germany/Borussia Dortmund) - 9
    8 Alessandro Del Piero (Italy/Juventus), Raul (Spain/Real Madrid), Peter Schmeichel (Denmark/Manchester United) - 6
    11 Rivaldo (Brazil/Deportivo La Coruna), Marcelo Salas (Chile/River Plate), Alan Shearer (England/Newcastle United) - 5
    14 Lilian Thuram (France/Parma), Gianfranco Zola (Italy/Parma/Chelsea) - 4
    16 Angelo Peruzzi (Italy/Juventus), Davor Suker (Croatia/Real Madrid) - 2
    18 Eric Cantona (France/Manchester United), Didier Deschamps (France/Juventus), Edmundo (Brazil/Vasco da Gama), Luis Figo (Portugal/Barcelona), Jurgen Kohler (Germany/Borussia Dortmund) - 1

    1998 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer# panel consensus
    1
    Zinedine Zidane (France/Juventus) - 193
    2 Ronaldo (Brazil/Inter Milan) - 178
    3 Dennis Bergkamp (Netherlands/Arsenal) - 64
    4 Davor Suker (Croatia/Real Madrid) - 53
    5 Alessandro Del Piero (Italy/Juventus) - 42
    6 Rivaldo (Brazil/Barcelona) - 36
    7 Lilian Thuram (France/Parma) - 19
    8 Michael Owen (England/Liverpool) - 5
    9 Emmanuel Petit (France/Arsenal), Fernando Redondo (Argentina/Real Madrid), Roberto Carlos (Brazil/Real Madrid) - 4
    12 Fabien Barthez (France/Monaco), Gabriel Batistuta (Argentina/Fiorentina), Predrag Mijatovic (Yugoslavia/Real Madrid) - 3
    15 Edgar Davids (Netherlands/AC Milan/Juventus) - 1

    1999 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer# panel consensus
    1
    Rivaldo (Brazil/Barcelona) - 218
    2 David Beckham (England/Manchester United) - 142
    3 Andriy Shevchenko (Ukraine/Dynamo Kiev/AC Milan) - 79
    4 Gabriel Batistuta (Argentina/Fiorentina) - 53
    5 Luis Figo (Portugal/Barcelona) - 44
    6 Roy Keane (Republic of Ireland/Manchester United) - 32
    7 Ryan Giggs (Wales/Manchester United) - 13
    8 Raul (Spain/Real Madrid) - 7
    9 Dwight Yorke (Trinidad&Tobago/Aston Villa/Manchester United), Zinedine Zidane (France/Juventus) - 4
    11 Alex de Souza (Brazil/Palmeiras) - 3
    12 Lothar Matthaus (Germany/Bayern Munich) - 2
    13 Pavel Nedved (Czech Republic/Lazio), Ronaldo (Brazil/Inter Milan) - 1
     
  4. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    2000 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1 Zinedine Zidane (France/Juventus) - 229
    2 Luis Figo (Portugal/Barcelona/Real Madrid) - 225
    3 Andriy Shevchenko (Ukraine/AC Milan) - 73
    4 Rivaldo (Brazil/Barcelona) - 47
    5 Francesco Totti (Italy/Roma) - 46
    6 Romario (Brazil/Flamengo/Vasco da Gama) - 31
    7 Raul (Spain/Real Madrid) - 20
    8 Thierry Henry (France/Arsenal) - 16
    9 Alessandro Nesta (Italy/Lazio) - 13
    10 Fernando Redondo (Argentina/Real Madrid/AC Milan) - 10
    11 Juan Roman Riquelme (Argentina/Boca Juniors) - 7
    12 Gabriel Batistuta (Argentina/Fiorentina/Roma) - 6
    13 Gaizka Mendieta (Spain/Valencia) - 4
    14 Pavel Nedved (Czech Republic/Lazio), Juan Sebastian Veron (Argentina/Lazio) - 3
    16 Fabien Barthez (France/Monaco/Manchester United), Djalminha (Brazil/Deportivo La Coruna), Ryan Giggs (Wales/Manchester United), Mario Jardel (Brazil/Porto/Gatatasaray) - 1

    2001 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1 Luis Figo (Portugal/Real Madrid) - 178
    2 Raul (Spain/Real Madrid) - 166
    3 Michael Owen (England/Liverpool) - 97
    4 Oliver Kahn (Germany/Bayern Munich) - 86
    5 Zinedine Zidane (France/Juventus/Real Madrid) - 74
    6 Francesco Totti (Roma/Italy) - 52
    7 David Beckham (England/Manchester United) - 28
    8 Rivaldo (Brazil/Barcelona) - 16
    9 Juan Roman Riquelme (Argentina/Boca Juniors) - 13
    10 Gabriel Batistuta (Argentina/Roma), Stefan Effenberg (Germany/Bayern Munich), Gaizka Mendieta (Spain/Valencia/Lazio), Andriy Shevchenko (Ukraine/AC Milan) - 4
    14 Thierry Henry (France/Arsenal), Pavel Nedved (Czech Republic/Lazio/Juventus), Roberto Carlos (Brazil/Real Madrid) - 2
    17 Robert Pires (France/Arsenal), Romario (Brazil/Vasco da Gama) - 1

    2002 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1 Zinedine Zidane (France/Real Madrid) - 161
    2 Ronaldo (Brazil/Inter Milan/Real Madrid) - 151
    3 Michael Ballack (Germany/Bayer Leverkusen/Bayern Munich) - 139
    4 Roberto Carlos (Brazil/Real Madrid) - 127
    5 Oliver Kahn (Germany/Bayern Munich) - 95
    6 Rivaldo (Brazil/Barcelona/AC Milan) - 24
    7 Thierry Henry (France/Arsenal) - 15
    8 Robert Pires (France/Arsenal) - 6
    9 Ruud van Nistelrooy (Netherlands/Manchester United) - 5
    10 Raul (Spain/Real Madrid), Ronaldinho (Brazil/Paris St Germain) - 4
    12 David Beckham (England/Manchester United), Cafu (Brazil/Roma) - 1

    2003 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1
    Thierry Henry (France/Arsenal) - 221
    2 Pavel Nedved (Czech Republic/Juventus) - 198
    3 Zinedine Zidane (France/Real Madrid) - 119
    4 Paolo Maldini (Italy/AC Milan) - 68
    5 Ruud van Nistelrooy (Netherlands/Manchester United) - 60
    6 Ronaldo (Brazil/Real Madrid) - 34
    7 Andriy Shevchenko (Ukraine/AC Milan) - 16
    8 Gianluigi Buffon (Italy/Juventus), Raul (Spain/Real Madrid) - 6
    10 Carlos Tevez (Argentina) - 3
    11 Alex de Souza (Brazil/Cruzeiro) - 2
    12 Deco (Portugal/Porto), Ronaldinho (Brazil/Paris St Germain/Barcelona), Patrick Vieira (France/Arsenal) - 1

    2004 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1
    Thierry Henry (France/Arsenal) - 217
    2 Ronaldinho (Brazil/Barcelona) - 170
    3 Andriy Shevchenko (Ukraine/AC Milan) - 146
    4 Deco (Portugal/Porto/Barcelona) - 138
    5 Pavel Nedved (Czech Republic/Juventus) - 18
    6 Adriano (Brazil/Parma/Inter Milan) - 10
    7 Kaka (Brazil/AC Milan), Patrick Vieira (France/Arsenal) - 7
    9 Ricardo Carvalho (Portugal/Porto/Chelsea), Theo Zagarakis (Greece/AEK Athens/Bologna) - 4
    11 Didier Drogba (Ivory Coast/Marseille/Chelsea), Fernando Morientes (Spain/Real Madrid/Monaco), Carlos Tevez (Argentina/Boca Juniors) - 3
    14 Alessandro Nesta (Italy/AC Milan) - 2
    15 Ruben Baraja (Spain/Valencia), Angelos Charisteas (Greece/Werder Bremen), Zinedine Zidane (France/Real Madrid) - 1

    2005 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1
    Ronaldinho (Brazil/Barcelona) - 262
    2 Frank Lampard (England/Chelsea) - 174
    3 Steven Gerrard (England/Liverpool) - 127
    4 Thierry Henry (France/Arsenal) - 70
    5 Adriano (Brazil/Inter Milan) - 32
    6 Samuel Eto'o (Cameroon/Barcelona), Andriy Shevchenko (Ukraine/AC Milan) - 16
    8 Kaka (Brazil/AC Milan) - 12
    9 Juan Roman Riquelme (Argentina/Villarreal) - 7
    10 Paolo Maldini (Italy/AC Milan) - 6
    11 John Terry (England/Chelsea) - 5
    12 Mark van Bommel (Netherlands/PSV Eindhoven/Barcelona) - 4
    13 Xavi (Spain/Barcelona) - 3
    14 Petr Cech (Czech Republic/Chelsea), Rogerio Ceni (Brazil/Sao Paulo) - 1

    2006 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1
    Ronaldinho (Brazil/Barcelona) - 191
    2 Fabio Cannavaro (Italy/Juventus/Real Madrid) - 170
    3 Thierry Henry (France/Arsenal) - 123
    4 Zinedine Zidane (France/Real Madrid) - 77
    5 Gianluigi Buffon (Italy/Juventus) - 73
    6 Andrea Pirlo (Italy/AC Milan) - 39
    7 Samuel Eto'o (Cameroon/Barcelona) - 33
    8 Miroslav Klose (Germany/Werder Bremen) - 10
    9 Kaka (Brazil/AC Milan) - 8
    10 Juan Roman Riquelme (Argentina/Villarreal) - 3
    11 Deco (Portugal/Barcelona), Steven Gerrard (England/Liverpool), Frank Lampard (England/Chelsea), Wayne Rooney (England/Manchester United) - 2

    2007 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1
    Kaka (Brazil/AC Milan) - 296
    2 Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/Manchester United) - 208
    3 Lionel Messi (Argentina/Barcelona) - 112
    4 Didier Drogba (Ivory Coast/Chelsea) - 62
    5 Francesco Totti (Italy/Roma) - 45
    6 Andrea Pirlo (Italy/AC Milan) - 29
    7 Ronaldinho (Brazil/Barcelona) - 18
    8 Clarence Seedorf (Netherlands/AC Milan) - 7
    9 Steven Gerrard (England/Liverpool), Ruud van Nistelrooy (Netherlands/Real Madrid) - 4
    11 Filippo Inzaghi (Italy/AC Milan), Adrian Mutu (Romania/Fiorentina), Juan Roman Riquelme (Argentina/Villarreal/Boca Juniors) - 2
    14 Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Sweden/Inter Milan), Paul Scholes (England/Manchester United) - 1

    2008 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1
    Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/Manchester United) - 306
    2 Lionel Messi (Argentina/Barcelona) - 156
    3 Fernando Torres (Spain/Liverpool) - 147
    4 Xavi (Spain/Barcelona) - 96
    5 Iker Casillas (Spain/Real Madrid) - 38
    6 Frank Lampard (England/Chelsea) - 10
    7 Andrey Arshavin (Russia/Zenit St Petersburg), Franck Ribery (France/Bayern Munich) - 8
    9 David Villa (Spain/Valencia) - 6
    10 Cesc Fabregas (Spain/Arsenal), Kaka (Brazil/AC Milan) - 5
    12 Steven Gerrard (England/Liverpool), Wayne Rooney (England/Manchester United) - 3
    14 Juan Roman Riquelme (Argentina/Boca Juniors), Marcos Senna (Spain/Villarreal), Luca Toni (Italy/Bayern Munich) - 1

    2009 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1
    Lionel Messi (Argentina/Barcelona) - 292
    2 Xavi (Spain/Barcelona) - 191
    3 Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/Manchester United/Real Madrid) - 130
    4 Andres Iniesta (Spain/Barcelona) - 90
    5 Samuel Eto'o (Cameroon/Barcelona/Inter Milan) - 59
    6 Steven Gerrard (England/Liverpool), Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Sweden/Inter Milan/Barcelona), Kaka (Brazil/AC Milan/Real Madrid), Frank Lampard (England/Chelsea) - 6
    10 Dani Alves (Brazil/Barcelona), Carles Puyol (Spain/Barcelona) - 2
    12 Xabi Alonso (Spain/Liverpool/Real Madrid), Didier Drogba (Ivory Coast/Chelsea), Luis Suarez (Uruguay/Ajax) - 1
     
  5. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    2010 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1
    Lionel Messi (Argentina/Barcelona) - 289
    2 Wesley Sneijder (Netherlands/Inter Milan) - 196
    3 Xavi (Spain/Barcelona) - 171
    4 Andres Iniesta (Spain/Barcelona) - 104
    5 Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/Real Madrid) - 57
    6 Diego Forlan (Uruguay/Atletico Madrid) - 38
    7 Arjen Robben (Netherlands/Bayern Munich) - 17
    8 Diego Milito (Argentina/Inter Milan) - 9
    9 Maicon (Brazil/Inter Milan) - 6
    10 Iker Casillas (Spain/Real Madrid) - 5
    11 Didier Drogba (Ivory Coast/Chelsea), David Villa (Spain/Valencia/Barcelona) - 4
    13 Samuel Eto'o (Cameroon/Inter Milan) - 3
    14 Javier Zanetti (Argentina/Inter Milan) - 2
    15 Cesc Fabregas (Spain/Arsenal), Wayne Rooney (England/Manchester United), Luis Suarez (Uruguay/Ajax) - 1

    2011 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1
    Lionel Messi (Argentina/Barcelona) - 348
    2 Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/Real Madrid) - 210
    3 Xavi (Spain/Barcelona) - 165
    4 Andres Iniesta (Spain/Barcelona) - 102
    5 Wayne Rooney (England/Manchester United) - 42
    6 Samuel Eto'o (Cameroon/Inter Milan) - 10
    7 Luis Suarez (Uruguay/Ajax/Liverpool) - 7
    8 Mesut Ozil (Germany/Real Madrid) - 5
    9 Diego Forlan (Uruguay/Atletico Madrid/Inter Milan), Neymar (Brazil/Santos) - 4
    11 Dimitar Berbatov (Bulgaria/Manchester United) - 3
    12 Dani Alves (Brazil/Barcelona), Robin van Persie (Netherlands/Arsenal) - 2
    14 Iker Casillas (Spain/Real Madrid), Manuel Neuer (Germany/Schalke/Bayern Munich), Franck Ribery (France/Bayern Munich), Giussepe Rossi (Italy/Villarreal), Victor Valdes (Spain/Barcelona), David Villa (Spain/Barcelona) - 1

    2012 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1
    Lionel Messi (Argentina/Barcelona) - 342
    2 Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/Real Madrid) - 228
    3 Andres Iniesta (Spain/Barcelona) - 136
    4 Xavi (Spain/Barcelona) - 68
    5 Andrea Pirlo (Italy/Juventus) - 44
    6 Radamel Falcao (Colombia/Atletico Madrid) - 30
    7 Iker Casillas (Spain/Real Madrid) - 15
    8 Didier Drogba (Ivory Coast/Chelsea/Shanghai Shensua) - 15
    9 Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Sweden/AC Milan/Paris St Germain) - 13
    10 Neymar (Brazil/Santos) - 7
    11 Robin van Persie (Netherlands/Arsenal/Manchester United) - 3
    12 Petr Cech (Czech Republic/Chelsea), Manuel Neuer (Germany/Bayern Munich) - 2
    14 Sergio Aguero (Argentina/Manchester City), Mesut Ozil (Germany/Real Madrid), Franck Ribery (France/Bayern Munich), Yaya Toure (Ivory Coast/Manchester City) - 1

    2013 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1
    Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/Real Madrid) - 260
    2 Lionel Messi (Argentina/Barcelona) - 248
    3 Franck Ribery (France/Bayern Munich) - 214
    4 Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Sweden/Paris St Germain) - 55
    5 Arjen Robben (Netherlands/Bayern Munich) - 51
    6 Neymar (Brazil/Santos/Barcelona) - 13
    7 Gareth Bale (Wales/Tottenham Hotspur/Real Madrid) - 12
    8 Robert Lewandowski (Poland/Borussia Dortmund), Robin van Persie (Netherlands/Manchester United) - 11
    10 Philipp Lahm (Germany/Bayern Munich), Bastian Schweinsteiger (Germany/Bayern Munich) - 10
    12 Andres Iniesta (Spain/Barcelona), Manuel Neuer (Germany/Bayern Munich) - 4
    14 Radamel Falcao (Colombia/Atletico Madrid/Monaco), Andrea Pirlo (Italy/Juventus) - 2
    16 Edinson Cavani (Uruguay/Napoli/Paris St Germain), Thomas Muller (Germany/Bayern Munich), Xavi (Spain/Barcelona) - 1

    2014 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1
    Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/Real Madrid) - 317
    2 Lionel Messi (Argentina/Barcelona) - 203
    3 Manuel Neuer (Germany/Bayern Munich) - 133
    4 Arjen Robben (Netherlands/Bayern Munich) - 116
    5 Luis Suarez (Uruguay/Liverpool/Barcelona) - 38
    6 Thomas Muller (Germany/Bayern Munich) - 28
    7 Angel Di Maria (Argentina/Real Madrid/Manchester United) - 21
    8 James Rodriguez (Colombia/Monaco/Real Madrid) - 10
    9 Toni Kroos (Germany/Bayern Munich/Real Madrid) - 8

    10 Philipp Lahm (Germany/Bayern Munich), Sergio Ramos (Spain/Real Madrid) - 5
    12 Gareth Bale (Wales/Real Madrid), Diego Costa (Spain/Atletico Madrid/Chelsea), Yaya Youre (Ivory Coast/Manchester City) - 4
    15 Sergio Ageuro (Argentina/Manchester City), Miroslav Klose (Germany/Lazio) - 3
    16 Neymar (Brazil/Barcelona), Mesut Ozil (Germany/Real Madrid/Arsenal) - 2
    19 Karim Benzema (France/Real Madrid), Eden Hazard (Belgium/Chelsea), Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Sweden/Paris St Germain), Luka Modric (Croatia/Real Madrid) - 1

    2015 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1
    Lionel Messi (Argentina/Barcelona) - 348
    2 Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/Real Madrid) - 211
    3 Neymar (Brazil/Barcelona) - 169
    4 Luis Suarez (Uruguay/Barcelona) - 93
    5 Robert Lewandowski (Poland/Bayern Munich) - 29
    6 Eden Hazard (Belgium/Chelsea) - 10
    7 Gianluigi Buffon (Italy/Juventus) - 8
    8 Thomas Muller (Germany/Bayern Munich), Paul Pogba (France/Juventus), Arjen Robben (Netherlands/Bayern Munich), Arturo Vidal (Chile/Juventus/Bayern Munich) - 6
    12 Alexis Sanchez (Chile/Arsenal) - 4
    13 Kevin De Bruyne (Belgium/Wolfsburg/Manchester City), Manuel Neuer (Germany/Bayern Munich) - 3
    15 Andres Iniesta (Spain/Barcelona), Carlos Tevez (Argentina/Juventus/Boca Juniors) - 2
    17 Sergio Aguero (Argentina/Manchester City), Henrikh Mkhitaryan (Armenia/Borussia Dortmund) - 1

    2016 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1
    Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/Real Madrid) - 258
    2 Lionel Messi (Argentina/Barcelona) - 217
    3 Luis Suarez (Uruguay/Barcelona) - 165
    4 Antoine Griezmann (France/Atletico Madrid) - 155
    5 Neymar (Brazil/Barcelona) - 59
    6 Gareth Bale (Wales/Real Madrid) - 22
    7 N'Golo Kante (France/Leicester City/Chelsea) - 4
    8 Dimitri Payet (France/West Ham United), Jamie Vardy (England/Leicester City) - 3
    10 Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Sweden/Paris St Germain/Manchester United), Luka Modric (Croatia/Real Madrid) - 2
    12 Sergio Aguero (Argentina/Manchester City), Gonzalo Higuain (Argentina/Napoli/Juventus), Riyad Mahrez (Algeria/Leicester City) - 1

    2017 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1
    Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/Real Madrid) - 308
    2 Lionel Messi (Argentina/Barcelona) - 224
    3 Neymar (Brazil/Barcelona/Paris St Germain) - 138
    4 Luka Modric (Croatia/Real Madrid) - 74
    5 Gianluigi Buffon (Italy/Juventus) - 45
    6 Toni Kroos (Germany/Real Madrid) - 15
    7 Kylian Mbappe (France/Monaco/Paris St Germain) - 12
    8 N'Golo Kante (France/Chelsea) - 8
    9 Eden Hazard (Belgium/Chelsea) - 7
    10 Robert Lewandowski (Poland/Bayern Munich) - 6
    10 Harry Kane (England/Tottenham Hotspur), Sergio Ramos (Spain/Real Madrid) - 5
    13 Luis Suarez (Uruguay/Barcelona) - 4
    14 Kevin De Bruyne (Belgium/Manchester City), Antoine Griezmann (France/Atletico Madrid) - 3
    16 Edinson Cavani (Uruguay/Paris St Germain), Christian Eriksen (Denmark/Tottenham Hotspur) - 2
    18 Casemiro (Brazil/Real Madrid), Giorgio Chiellini (Italy/Juventus), Paulo Dybala (Argentina/Juventus), Alexis Sanchez (Chile/Arsenal) - 1

    2018 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1
    Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/Real Madrid/Juventus) - 192
    2 Luka Modric (Croatia/Real Madrid) - 179
    3 Lionel Messi (Argentina/Barcelona) - 174
    4 Mohamed Salah (Egypt/Liverpool) - 108
    5 Antoine Griezmann (France/Atletico Madrid) - 99
    6 Neymar (Brazil/Paris St Germain) - 45
    7 Kylian Mbappe (France/Monaco/Paris St Germain) - 39
    8 Eden Hazard (Belgium/Chelsea) - 23
    9 Kevin De Bruyne (Belgium/Manchester City) - 10
    10 Luis Suarez (Uruguay/Barcelona) - 3
    11 Roberto Firmino (Brazil/Liverpool), Rafael Varane (France/Real Madrid) - 2
    13 Sadio Mane (Senegal/Liverpool), Jan Oblak (Slovenia/Atletico Madrid) - 1

    2019 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1
    Lionel Messi (Argentina/Barcelona) - 290
    2 Virgil van Dijk (Netherlands/Liverpool) - 238
    3 Sadio Mane (Senegal/Liverpool) - 100
    4 Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/Juventus) - 85
    5 Mohamed Salah (Egypt/Liverpool) - 51
    6 Eden Hazard (Belgium/Chelsea/Real Madrid) - 30
    7 Alisson (Brazil/Liverpool) - 22
    8 Kylian Mbappe (France/Paris St Germain) - 21
    9 Robert Lewandowski (Poland/Bayern Munich) - 8
    10 Bernardo Silva (Portugal/Manchester City) - 6
    11 Raheem Sterling (England/Manchester City) - 4
    12 Frenkie de Jong (Netherlands/Ajax/Barcelona), Riyad Mahrez (Algeria/Manchester City) - 3
    14 Neymar (Brazi/Paris St Germain), Hakem Ziyech (Morocco/Ajax) - 2
    16 Son Heung-min (South Korea/Tottenham Hotspur), Luis Suarez (Uruguay/Barcelona) – 1
     
    Titanlux repped this.
  6. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    I'll leave 2023 to you @IceBlood34 as you've been tallying the votes for that year in what was a 'current poll' at one point of course, but here's the final update from me for 2020-2022 factoring in the votes from anamnesis's friend off Twitter which he had posted directly on the thread:
    2020 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1
    Robert Lewandowski (Poland/Bayern Munich) - 310
    2 Lionel Messi (Argentina/Barcelona) - 130
    3 Kevin De Bruyne (Belgium/Manchester City) - 110
    4 Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/Juventus) - 66
    5 Kylian Mbappe (France/Paris St Germain) - 43
    6 Joshua Kimmich (Germany/Bayern Munich) - 36
    7 Neymar (Brazil/Paris St Germain) - 32.5
    8 Manuel Neuer (Germany/Bayern Munich) - 32

    9 Sadio Mane (Senegal/Liverpool) - 19.5
    10 Serge Gnabry (Germany/Bayern Munich) - 20
    11 Thomas Muller (Germany/Bayern Munich) - 13
    12 Mohamed Salah (Egypt/Liverpool) - 5
    13 Karim Benzema (France/Real Madrid), Angel Di Maria (Argentina/Paris St Germain) - 3
    15 Virgil van Dijk (Netherlands/Liverpool) - 2.5
    16 Trent Alexander-Arnold (England/Liverpool), Son Heung-min (South Korea/Tottenham Hotspur) - 2
    18 Memphis Depay (Netherlands/Lyon), Harry Kane (England/Tottenham Hotspur), Jan Oblak (Slovenia/Atletico Madrid), Thiago Alcantara (Spain/Bayern Munich/Liverpool) - 1
    22 N'Golo Kante (France/Chelsea) - 0.5

    2021 Ballon d'Or Revisited panel consensus
    1
    Lionel Messi (Argentina/Barcelona/Paris St Germain) - 252
    2 Robert Lewandowski (Poland/Bayern Munich) - 240
    3 N'Golo Kante (France/Chelsea) - 77
    4 Karim Benzema (France/Real Madrid) - 75

    5 Kylian Mbappe (France/Paris St Germain) - 38
    6 Kevin De Bruyne (Belgium/Manchester City) - 34
    7 Jorginho (Italy/Chelsea) - 33
    8 Mohamed Salah (Egypt/Liverpool) - 23
    9 Erling Haaland (Norway/Borussia Dortmund) - 19
    10 Cristiano Ronaldo (Poland/Juventus/Manchester United) - 16
    11 Harry Kane (England/Tottenham Hotspur) - 10
    12 Luis Suarez (Uruguay/Atletico Madrid) - 5
    13 Bruno Fernandes (Portugal/Manchester United) - 4
    14 Nicolo Barella (Italy/Inter Milan), Joshua Kimmich (Germany/Bayern Munich), Neymar (Brazil/Paris St Germain), Marco Verratti (Italy/Paris St Germain) - 2
    18 Gianluigi Donnarumma (Italy/AC Milan/Paris St Germain), Ilkay Gundogan (Germany/Manchester City), Thiago Silva (Brazil/Chelsea) - 1


    2022 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer/Reddit panel consensus
    1
    Karim Benzema (France/Real Madrid) - 237
    2 Kylian Mbappe (France/Paris St Germain) - 126
    3 Kevin De Bruyne (Belgium/Manchester City) - 58.5
    4 Mohamed Salah (Egypt/Liverpool) - 58

    5 Robert Lewandowski (Poland/Bayern Munich/Barcelona) - 53
    6 Lionel Messi (Argentina/Paris St Germain) - 48
    7 Sadio Mane (Senegal/Liverpool/Bayern Munich) - 41
    8 Thibaut Courtois (Belgium/Real Madrid) - 33
    9 Luka Modric (Croatia/Real Madrid) - 19
    10 Vinicius Jr (Brazil/Real Madrid) - 13
    11 Erling Haaland (Norway/Borussia Dortmund/Manchester City) - 5.5
    12 Enzo Fernandez (Argentina/River Plate/Benfica) - 4
    13 Emiliano Martinez (Argentina/Aston Villa) - 3
    14 Trent Alexander-Arnold (England/Liverpool), Angel Di Maria (Argentina/Paris St Germain/Juventus), Christopher Nkunku (France/RB Leipzig), Son Heung-min (South Korea/Tottenham Hotspur) - 2
    18 Julian Alvarez (Argentina/River Plate/Manchester City), Bernardo Silva (Portugal/Manchester City), Federico Valverde (Uruguay/Real Madrid) - 1
     
    Titanlux repped this.
  7. IceBlood34

    IceBlood34 Member

    Montpellier HSC
    France
    Jan 27, 2021
    Mate, I'm soooo sorry
    I totally forgot to tell you that this votes are a summary of several voters
    Right @anamnesis del fútbol ?
    So @PDG1978 please don't use it!
    I'm receiving now the different voters from @anamnesis del fútbol and I will do it the tally myself.
    Could you delete all your summary?
    I'm so sorry...
     
  8. IceBlood34

    IceBlood34 Member

    Montpellier HSC
    France
    Jan 27, 2021
  9. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    I think it might be easier for you to leave out the one I already incorporated maybe mate (the one anamnesis posted on the thread), if possible, and then you have all the updates I did verified and ready to use to add on the points for the other ones (including the correction on Valentino Mazzola's points)?

    Maybe it's possible to share with us all these new votes too (I'm not sure)?
     
    IceBlood34 repped this.
  10. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    I don't have capability to delete posts mate anyway to be honest, but I honestly think it's best not to anyway, if anamnesis can confirm to you which vote to leave out (the one he originally posted on the thread saying his friend voted and he thinks it should be included).
     
  11. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    One other thing I had thought about @IceBlood34 is maybe that we were I think encouraging people to vote for 5 players per year if they were voting in real time weren't we, if I remember correctly?

    Obviously like I mentioned there were those older votes from old threads you found and wanted to incorporate and maybe it was my decision (with your approval or invitation to decide) to allocate full points to the top 3s still for those, but I think we were generally asking for people to name 5 players where possible and where we could interact with them? Although I may be forgetting some more recent votes that did only have 3 players per year and we still used the same way (it's easy to lose track after a bit of a break from this thread, like you think too I guess). Anyway, potentially it could be worth asking for 5 players per year (I'm not trying to insist upon it though; it just crossed my mind)?
     
    IceBlood34 repped this.
  12. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Maybe (again at second glance - sorry I didn't fully digest what you meant before IceBlood I think) I understood this post wrong though?

    Friend's votes is singular (one friend) or multiple (friends)? 'Are' means all the votes of one guy, or a consensus between multiple voters?

    I'm not sure now but i thought this was just from one voter. Maybe IceBlood thought otherwise (maybe he even knows otherwise).

    Not to totally rule out using the list as one vote, albeit a consensus one, if that's what it is, I guess, even (especially if individual voters only made 3 choices per year).

    I'm a bit confused about it as you can tell anyway to be honest (but atm I've added this set of votes as one vote indeed, and I was assuming other Twitter posts were separate...but maybe that's wrong)!
     
  13. anamnesis del fútbol

    Apr 9, 2021
    There are actually 4 different voters. Which link do you not access?
     
  14. IceBlood34

    IceBlood34 Member

    Montpellier HSC
    France
    Jan 27, 2021
    Sorry if I wasn't clear, in fact @anamnesis del fútbol had already compiled the votes of the 4 voters into a single vote, without number of points or anything.
    He just sent me the votes of the different voters. I'll take care of it today and post it here.
    Once the number of points per year and player is done, it'll be easier for you to add directly to the consensus.
    So please, don't take into account your tally that you just made recently because they are not correct.
     
  15. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    I think I'm understanding now that this is a set of 4 lots of votes (and as IceBlood just confirmed and seems certain about that the original post was an amalgamation of them all - I guess at that point anamnesis had thought about submitting their consensus but then it has been changed to submitting each vote individually then....).

    I was able to open the spreadsheet that goes to the list of 'Velvet d'Or' votes from one person (the 3rd one referenced above) - I had misunderstood at first and thought that that might have come from @velnho on Twitter/X but I think I understand it is from a different person now.

    The top link I couldn't open (maybe it is a private message sent to anamnesis? - anyway I guess you have the access or confirmation sent to you of what the votes were IceBlood for that one too). I could find the Zizouretro timeline but again probably was expecting that the top link related to the Zizouretro vote at first, so I didn't scroll around enough to find his Ballon d'Or votes I guess.
     
  16. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Ok, I was going to check one more time with anamnesis that the original post specifically wasn't one set of votes but a combination of four of them, but IceBlood you are certain about it I think.

    I should remove the set of votes I added then, and will do that soon for you (but making sure to show the correct points as well as position for the Valentino Mazzola entry I had identified with an error in the points shown after the post-Gutigut's adjustments update). Then you can provide me with the 4 sets of votes to add, or add them yourself if you liked, I guess....
     
  17. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    I did try @ velnho (on Twitter/X, without a space but I put one here because we tag people on Big Soccer by using @ of course) and got a message that that account didn't exist though by the way (but again I guess anamnesis sent you the votes directly IceBlood).
     
  18. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Ah, ok, I just logged into my emails now @IceBlood34 and saw the message you sent me with confirmation of 3 sets of votes (two from friends of anamnesis and also the one @Bin1250 had provided for you).

    You have said you are clarifying with anamnesis about the final set of votes, and confirmed that of course the Velvet d'Or spreadsheet I mentioned I could see has another one of them.

    I thought about copying and pasting into spoiler tags onto this thread, but it seems like there is too much data to do it or something or some data gets missed off when transferring between the document I viewed from your email and Big Soccer, but anyway I see them all.

    I can handle adding those votes if you like (after removing the consensus first), and then you can let me know about the final set too when anamnesis has been able to confirm and show it to you? You are ok with continuing to allow full points for votes with 3 names I guess (the same as we did for the voters from older Big Soccer threads where necessary) - probably that is fair and simple as we had probably given anamnesis the impression anyway that it was at least acceptable to submit 3 names per year (I see he did tell them that 5 was more ideal anyway).

    One thing I had already spotted: on the 'Velvet d'Or' set of votes Bergkamp has been allocated both 4th and 5th place for 1997. So we could get clarification on a new choice for 5th place potentially (or just not add the point for 5th place)....

    Edit: Nice work anyway IceBlood with making the document with the votes breakdown on, and thanks for sending me it.
     
    IceBlood34 repped this.
  19. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    By the way @IceBlood34 though what are we deciding about the new adjustments of @Titanlux ?

    To factor in what he has posted since we had previously closed off the voting (and included his adjustments up to the end of the 90s)?

    To wait for him to finish the 00s before you make your templates etc?

    To not make any other adjustments to his votes and just leave it as fully-adjusted up to the end of 1990s (with his original, provisional, votes for all of 00s and beyond)?
     
  20. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    I will check in more detail @IceBlood34 but it looks possible at first glance that the votes of 'User 2' as per what you sent via email are the same list as what @anamnesis del fútbol first posted on the thread (meaning that that wasn't a combination of all 4 together and he just means 4 new contributors that he interacted with voted overall including that one?).

    If so I wouldn't need to remove that set of votes obviously, but I will do a full check again later. You and anamnesis are sure that the 'User 2' set of votes are indeed from one person I guess anyway?
     
  21. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Yes, this set of votes is 100% the same as the set of votes of 'User 2' on the page you sent me by email @IceBlood34

    So I already added that set in (and seemingly don't need to remove those points then, but just add in 3 more sets of votes eventually too I think).
     
    IceBlood34 repped this.
  22. Titanlux

    Titanlux Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Nov 27, 2017
    Please feel free to finish the project at your convenience. At the moment I'm working on the 2000-01 season, of which I'll have the list out in 7 or 10 days, I reckon. I will post it, in any case, in the thread I opened not long ago. I don't want to hinder your objectives because of my slowness in publishing the lists. I want to take my time because I want to consult as many sources as possible to make these rankings as fair as I can.
     
  23. IceBlood34

    IceBlood34 Member

    Montpellier HSC
    France
    Jan 27, 2021
    I see it's a bit of a complex situation. Are you also planning to do the years 2010 and 2020?
     
  24. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    I received the confirmation of the votes of the other friend of anamnesis from Twitter @IceBlood34 - thanks (I'll be fine to add the points for the remaining 3 sets of votes including this one).

    That voter does seem to have 2 years with only 2 players chosen though I see doesn't he?
    1985: Platini - Maradona - Idk ('I don't know', I guess it means)
    1997: Ronaldo - Romario - Idk
     
    IceBlood34 repped this.
  25. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    I found his Twitter-post by the way actually:
    Mr.Idolo on X: "My top 3 in Ballon d'or since 1946 to 2023. I could forget someone & sometimes it was close between some names https://t.co/OKuOaNzKAf" / X
     
    IceBlood34 repped this.

Share This Page