Ballon d'Or awards revisited by BigSoccer users

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by IceBlood34, Feb 18, 2022.

  1. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Oh, actually mate when people have selected 3 players in the end (because we didn't want to make their top choices less valid I think, and because we're also using old posts it's inevitable some posters didn't realise they should name 5 players) I have awarded 6 points for 1st, 4 points for 2nd and 3 points for 3rd, so I would prefer not to adjust anything now to be honest (because it would be quite a lot more work).

    But my new question was just about the 'votes' of elegos7 for the 1940s, because for the 'war years' he has named only 2 players (and I think between us we had decided that someone would need to at least have named 3 players normally to be able to vote - I was just thinking that because it is for war years and from somebody, elgos7, who is a significant voter on the older years that maybe we can still use those votes....but I wondered in that case if this time we should reduce the points a little bit, because only picking 2 players means a big advantage for those 2 players in theory if they get maximum points still).

    Actually, I guess there is no reason for me not to copy the votes of elegos7 for the 1940s and post them here now (Lasha had posted them on my profile page for me); then it will help you to understand what I'm trying to say a bit better too:

    1940:

    1. Leonidas
    2. Bican

    1941:

    1. Moreno
    2. Sastre

    1942:

    1. Moreno
    2. Pedernera

    1943:

    1. S. Varela
    2. Matthews

    1944:

    1. Zizinho
    2. Matthews

    1945:

    1. Martino
    2. Matthews

    1946:

    1. Pedernera
    2. Pontoni

    1947:

    1. Mazzola
    2. Moreno
    3. Mannion

    1948:

    1. Matthews
    2. Mazzola
    3. Puskas

    1949:

    1. Ademir
    2. Deak
    3. Zizinho
     
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  2. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Actually @Lasha the Idiotic if you want to reveal the 1930s selections of elgos7 as well (I guess even on this thread, as as you can see I copied his 1940s over here now anyway) that would be great - I can integrate those into the 1930s standings when I do those too of course (which will be my next task, after I finalise the 1940s ones once it's decided exactly how to use the top 2s elgos7 selected for the 1940-1946 years - of course there is also a gap in Dearman's selections in the 1940s so in theory it's fine to have a gap but I just thought @IceBlood34 that since elgos specialises in those early years then maybe we can try to use those top 2s the best way we can - I think he hasn't logged onto Big Soccer for about a year, otherwise we could ask for another player to be added in those years, but for sure Lasha has helped out by relaying those selections from elgos7's book, so it's great that he could provide them for us I think, even while elgos is absent at the moment from Big Soccer).

    EDIT - elgos did log in on December actually I notice now (he hasn't posted for nearly a year which is what I'd checked previously), but anyway I did tag him recently so it's not worth doing it again I think - maybe somebody posting a message on one of his threads would be the most likely to get his attention if anything....
     
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  3. Lasha the Idiotic

    FC Barcelona
    Georgia
    Jul 19, 2021
    Yes, I have elegos7's votes for the 1930s:

    1930:

    1. Meazza
    2. Nasazzi
    3. Smistik

    1931:

    1. Orsi
    2. James
    3. Gschweidl

    1932:

    1. Sindelar
    2. Schall
    3. Orsi

    1933:

    1. Sindelar
    2. Meazza
    3. Bastin

    1934:

    1. Meazza
    2. Sindelar
    3. Nejedly

    1935:

    1. Sarosi
    2. Braine
    3. Bastin

    1936:

    1. Meazza
    2. Sindelar
    3. Sarosi

    1937:

    1. Sarosi
    2. Erico
    3. Sastre

    1938:

    1. Sarosi
    2. Leonidas
    3. Erico

    1939:

    1. Erico
    2. Zsengeller
    3. Lawton
     
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  4. IceBlood34

    IceBlood34 Member

    Montpellier HSC
    France
    Jan 27, 2021
    I trust you mate, to make the choice of points most in line with the fact that elegos7 (who is an important voter) only votes for two players for the WWII years.
     
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  5. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Ok mate, sure, thanks. I just thought I should run it past you first, and go with what you prefer if necessary, but I can make what I think is the most appropriate call on it then and get the finalised 1940s standings done (incorporating 12 votes now) fairly shortly, today....
     
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  6. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    I decided then that 4 points for 1st, and 2 points for 2nd, in those 2-player votes, would be the most appropriate - it maintains the gap of two points between 1st and 2nd that we are having for all votes, and the player in 1st has a four point boost over any other player (in a normal vote it would be at least three points anyway - compared to a 3rd placed player it is three and compared to a 4th placed player it is four normally)....


    Final 1940s standings (at least for now):

    1940 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Leonidas (Brazil/Flamengo) - 62
    2 Josef Bican (Czechoslovakia*/Slavia Prague) - 46
    3 Antonio Sastre (Argentina/Independiente) - 19
    4 Franz Binder (Germany*/Rapid Vienna) - 14
    5 Arsenio Erico (Paraguay/Independiente) - 9
    6 Iuliu Baratky (Romania/Rapid Bucharest) - 6
    7 Emilio Baldonedo (Argentina/Huracan), Delfin Benitez Caceres (Paraguay/Racing Club de Avellaneda) - 4
    9 Gyorgy Sarosi (Hungary/Ferencvaros) - 3
    10 Atilio Garcia (Uruguay/Nacional), Ernst Kuzorra (Germany/Schalke), Jose Manuel Moreno (Argentina/River Plate) - 2
    13 Fritz Szepan (Germany/Schalke), Romeu (Brazil/Fluminense) - 1

    1941 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Jose Manuel Moreno (Argentina/River Plate) - 70
    2 Antonio Sastre (Argentina/Independiente) - 27
    3 Atilio Garcia (Uruguay/Nacional) - 19
    4 Franz Binder (Germany*/Rapid Vienna) - 15
    5 Gyorgy Sarosi (Hungary/Ferencvaros) - 9
    6 Adolfo Pedernera (Argentina/River Plate) - 11
    7 Josef Bican (Czechoslovakia*/Slavia Prague), Isidro Langara (Spain/San Lorenzo) - 6
    9 Roberto Porta (Uruguay/Nacional) - 5
    10 Leonidas (Brazil/Flamengo), Teleco (Brazil/Corinthians) - 1

    1942 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Jose Manuel Moreno (Argentina/River Plate) - 68
    2 Adolfo Pedernera (Argentina/River Plate) - 43
    3 Obdulio Varela (Uruguay/Montevideo Wanderers) - 16
    4 Josef Bican (Czechoslovakia*/Slavia Prague) - 14
    5 Tommy Lawton (England/Everton), Roberto Porta (Uruguay/Nacional) - 8
    7 Anibal Ciocca (Uruguay/Nacional) - 7
    8 Fritz Walter (Germany/Kaiserslautern) - 4
    9 Stanley Matthews (England/Stoke City), Zizinho (Brazil/Flamengo) - 2
    11 Heleno de Freitas (Brazil/Botafogo), Rinaldo Martino (Argentina/San Lorenzo), Mundo (Spain/Valencia) - 1

    1943 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Zizinho (Brazil/Flamengo) - 34
    2 Stanley Matthews (England/Stoke City) - 27
    3 Severino Varela (Uruguay/Boca Juniors) - 23
    4 Jose Manuel Moreno (Argentina/River Plate) - 20
    5 Adolfo Pedernera (Argentina/River Plate) - 19
    6 Antonio Sastre (Argentina/Sao Paulo) - 16
    7 Josef Bican (Czechoslovakia*/Slavia Prague), Atilio Garcia (Uruguay/Nacional), Leonidas (Brazil/Sao Paulo) - 5
    10 Silvio Piola (Italy/Lazio) - 3
    11 Raich Carter (England/Sunderland), Domingos da Guia (Brazil/Flamengo), Jose Salomon (Argentina/Racing Club de Avellaneda) - 1

    1944 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1 Zizinho (Brazil/Flamengo) - 37
    2 Josef Bican (Czechoslovakia*/Slavia Prague) - 34
    3 Tommy Lawton (England/Everton) - 33
    4 Stanley Matthews (England/Stoke City) - 23
    5 Carlos Sosa (Argentina/Boca Juniors) - 11
    6 Severino Varela (Uruguay/Boca Juniors) - 6
    7 Angel Labruna (Argentina/River Plate) - 4
    8 Jair da Rosa Pinto (Brazil/Vasco da Gama) - 3
    9 Mario Boye (Argentina/Boca Juniors), Obdulio Varela (Uruguay/Penarol) - 2
    11 Karl Decker (Austria/First Vienna), Epi Fernandez (Spain/Valencia), Luisinho (Brazil/Sao Paulo), Mundo (Spain/Valencia), Antonio Sastre (Argentina/Sao Paulo) - 1

    1945 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Rinaldo Martino (Argentina/San Lorenzo) - 40
    2 Norberto Mendez (Argentina/Huracan) - 25
    3 Tommy Lawton (England/Everton) - 22
    4 Stanley Matthews (England/Stoke City) - 20
    5 Adolfo Pedernera (Argentina/River Plate) - 16
    6 Ademir de Menezes (Brazil/Vasco da Gama), Angel Labruna (Argentina/River Plate) - 12
    8 Jose Manuel Moreno (Argentina/Real Club Espana) - 4
    9 Helenio de Freitas (Brazil/Botafogo) - 3
    10 Felix Loustau (Argentina/River Plate), Obdulio Varela (Uruguay/Penarol), Zizinho (Brazil/Flamengo) - 2

    1946 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Adolfo Pedernera (Argentina/River Plate) - 50
    2 Rene Pontoni (Argentina/San Lorenzo) - 23
    3 Rinaldo Martino (Argentina/San Lorenzo) - 18
    4 Raich Carter (England/Sunderland/Derby County), Ferenc Deak (Hungary/Szentlorinci), Angel Labruna (Argentina/River Plate), Stanley Matthews (England/Stoke City) - 10
    8 Norberto Mendez (Argentina/Huracan), Zizinho (Brazil/Flamengo) - 7
    10 Valentino Mazzola (Italy/Torino) - 6
    11 Gyula Zsengeller (Hungary/Ujpest) - 4
    12 Tommy Lawton (England/Chelsea) - 3
    13 Gunnar Gren (Sweden/Gothenburg) - 2

    1947 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Valentino Mazzola (Italy/Torino) - 50
    2 Wilf Mannion (England/Middlesbrough) - 29
    3 Alfredo Di Stefano (Argentina/River Plate) - 24
    4 Tommy Lawton (England/Chelsea/Notts County), Jose Manuel Moreno (Argentina/River Plate) - 23
    6 Stanley Matthews (England/Stoke City/Blackpool) - 16
    7 Rene Pontoni (Argentina/San Lorenzo) - 7
    8 Ferenc Deak (Hungary/Szentlorinci/Ferencvaros) - 4
    9 Rinaldo Martino (Argentina/San Lorenzo) - 3
    10 Felix Loustau (Argentina/River Plate) - 1

    1948 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Stanley Matthews (England/Blackpool) - 59
    2 Valentino Mazzola (Italy/Torino), Ferenc Puskas (Hungary/Kispest) - 31
    4 Gunnar Nordahl (Sweden/Norrkoping) - 27
    5 Gunnar Gren (Sweden/Gothenburg) - 14
    6 Danilo Alvim (Brazil/Vasco da Gama), Alfredo Di Stefano (Argentina/River Plate/Millonarios) - 6
    8 Tom Finney (England/Preston North End) - 4
    9 Ferenc Deak (Hungary/Ferencvaros), Jose Manuel Moreno (Argentina/River Plate) - 1

    1949 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Ademir de Menezes (Brazil/Vasco da Gama) - 37
    2 Ferenc Deak (Hungary/Ferencvaros) - 33
    3 Zizinho (Brazil/Flamengo) - 32
    4 Valentino Mazzola (Italy/Torino) - 22
    5 Ferenc Puskas (Hungary/Kispest) - 19
    6 Gunnar Gren (Sweden/Gothenburg/AC Milan), Jair da Rosa Pinto (Brazil/Flamengo/Palmeiras) - 12
    8 Ernst Ocwirk (Austria/Austria Vienna) - 7
    9 Alfredo Di Stefano (Argentina/Millonarios), Juan Schiaffino (Uruguay/Penarol) - 2
    11 Johnny Carey (Ireland/Manchester United), Oscar Miguez (Uruguay/Penarol) - 1
     
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  7. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Updated version of this too, with points added in from the votes of elegos7:
    1) Jose Manuel Moreno - 188
    2) Stanley Matthews - 157
    3) Adolfo Pedernera - 139
    4) Zizinho - 114
    5) Valentino Mazzola - 109
    6) Josef Bican - 105
    7) Tommy Lawton - 89
    8) Leonidas - 68
    9) Antonio Sastre - 63
    10) Rinaldo Martino - 62
    11) Ferenc Puskas - 50
    12) Ademir de Menezes - 49
    13) Ferenc Deak - 48
    14= Alfredo Di Stefano, Norberto Mendez - 32
    16) Rene Pontoni - 30
    17= Franz Binder, Wilf Mannion, Severino Varela - 29
    20) Gunnar Gren - 28
    21) Gunnar Nordahl - 27
    22= Atilio Garcia, Angel Labruna - 26
    24) Obdulio Varela - 20
    25= Jair da Rosa Pinto, Gyorgy Sarosi - 15
    27) Roberto Porta - 13
    28= Raich Carter, Carlos Sosa - 11
    30) Arsenio Erico - 9
    31= Anibal Ciocca, Ernst Ocwirk - 7
    33= Danilo Alvim, Iuliu Baratky, Isidro Langara - 6
     
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  8. IceBlood34

    IceBlood34 Member

    Montpellier HSC
    France
    Jan 27, 2021
    Updated version 13.0 so far (1940-2022):
    ONLY FOR BIG SOCCER PANEL CONSENSUS

    1940: Leonidas, Bican, Sastre, Binder, Erico
    1941: Moreno, Sastre, Garcia, Binder, Sarosi
    1942: Moreno (2), Pedernera, Varela, Bican, Lawton / Porta
    1943: Zizinho, Matthews, Varela, Moreno, Pedernera
    1944: Zizinho (2), Bican, Lawton, Matthews, Sosa
    1945: Martino, Mendez, Lawton, Matthews, Pedernera
    1946: Pedernera, Pontoni, Martino, Carter / Deak / Labruna / Matthews
    1947: Mazzola, Mannion, Di Stefano, Lawton / Moreno
    1948: Matthews, Mazzola / Puskas, Nordahl, Gren
    1949: Ademir, Deak, Zizinho, Mazzola, Puskas
    1950: Ademir (2), Puskas, Zizinho, Schiaffino, Varela
    1951: Nordahl, Liedholm, Di Stefano, Gren, Wilkes
    1952: Puskas, Kubala, Kocsis, Bozsik, Di Stefano
    1953: Puskas (2), Hidegkuti, Kopa, Matthews, Walter
    1954: Kocsis, Walter, Puskas, Schiaffino, Di Stefano
    1955: Di Stefano, Kopa, Schiaffino, Kocsis, Puskas
    1956: Di Stefano (2), Kopa, Schiaffino, Julinho, Matthews
    1957: Di Stefano (3), Didi, Kopa, Sivori, Edwards
    1958: Pelé, Didi, Kopa, Di Stefano, Fontaine
    1959: Di Stefano (4), Pelé, Luis Suarez, Didi, Kopa
    1960: Puskas (3), Luis Suarez, Pelé, Di Stefano, Yashin
    1961: Pelé (2), Sivori, Garrincha, Luis Suarez, Spencer
    1962: Garrincha, Pelé, Masopust, Eusebio, Coutinho
    1963: Pelé (3), Rivera, Greaves, Yashin, Eusebio
    1964: Pelé (4), Luis Suarez, Law, Eusebio, Amancio
    1965: Pelé (5), Eusebio, Facchetti, Luis Suarez, Mazzolla
    1966: Eusebio, Charlton, Beckenbauer, Moore, Pelé
    1967: Albert, Johnstone, Charlton, Cruyff, Rocha
    1968: Best, Charlton, Dzajic, Eusebio, Pelé
    1969: Pelé (6), Rivera, Tostao, Riva, Cruyff
    1970: Pelé (7), Jairzinho, Muller, Tostao, Gerson
    1971: Cruyff, Best, Mazzolla, Beckenbauer, Netzer
    1972: Cruyff (2), Beckenbauer, Muller, Netzer, Jairzinho
    1973: Cruyff (3), Muller, Beckenbauer, Zoff, Rivera
    1974: Cruyff (4), Beckenbauer, Deyna, Muller, Neeskens
    1975: Blokhin, Beckenbauer, Figueroa, Cruyff, Alonso
    1976: Beckenbauer, Rensenbrick, Figueroa, Zico, Passarella
    1977: Keegan, Cruyff, Simonsen, Zico, Platini
    1978: Kempes, Rensenbrick, Dalglish, Rossi, Keegan
    1979: Maradona, Keegan, Zico, Falcao, Rummenigge
    1980 : Maradona (2), Rummenigge, Zico, Schuster, Platini
    1981: Zico, Rummenigge, Maradona, Breitner, Platini
    1982: Zico (2), Falcao, Rossi, Rummenigge, Giresse
    1983: Platini, Falcao, Zico, Dalglish, Socrates
    1984: Platini (2), Tigana, Rush, Zico, Francescoli
    1985: Platini (3), Maradona, Elkjaer, Schuster, Boniek
    1986: Maradona (3), Lineker, Belanov, Platini, Butragueno / Careca
    1987: Maradona (4), Gullit, Futre, van Basten, Sanchez
    1988: Gullit, van Basten, Maradona, Koeman, Rijkaard
    1989: van Basten, Maradona, Baresi, Matthaus, Rijkaard
    1990: Matthaus, Maradona, Baresi, Brehme, Schilaci
    1991: Papin, Matthaus, Savicevic, Pancev, Prosinecki
    1992: van Basten (2), Stoichkov, Laudrup, Bergkamp, Schmeichel
    1993: Baggio, Bergkamp, Romario, Laudrup, Cantona
    1994; Romario, Stoichkov, Baggio, Maldini, Hagi
    1995: Litmanen, Weah, Klinsmann, Laudrup, Maldini
    1996: Ronaldo, Sammer, Weah, Shearer, Del Piero
    1997: Ronaldo (2), Zidane, R Carlos, Bergkamp, Mijatovic
    1998: Zidane, Ronaldo, Suker, Bergkamp, Rivaldo
    1999: Rivaldo, Beckham, Shevchenko, Figo / Batistuta
    2000: Zidane (2), Figo, Shevchenko, Rivaldo, Totti
    2001: Figo (2), Raul, Owen, Zidane, Kahn
    2002: Zidane (3), Ronaldo, R Carlos, Ballack, Kahn
    2003: Nedved, Henry, Zidane, van Nistelrooy, Ronaldo
    2004: Henry, Ronaldinho, Shevchenko, Deco, Nedved
    2005: Ronaldinho, Lampard, Gerrard, Henry, Adriano
    2006: Cannavaro, Ronaldinho, Henry, Zidane, Buffon
    2007: Kaka, Cristiano Ronaldo, Messi, Drogba, Totti
    2008: Cristiano Ronaldo, Messi, F Torres, Xavi, Casillas
    2009: Messi, Xavi, Iniesta / Cristiano Ronaldo, Eto'o
    2010: Messi (2), Sneijder, Xavi, Iniesta, Cristiano Ronaldo
    2011: Messi (3), Cristiano Ronaldo, Xavi, Iniesta, Rooney
    2012: Messi (4), Cristiano Ronaldo, Iniesta, Pirlo, Xavi
    2013: Messi (5), Cristiano Ronaldo, Ribery, Ibrahimovic, Robben
    2014: Cristiano Ronaldo (2), Messi, Robben, Neuer, Suarez
    2015: Messi (6), Cristiano Ronaldo, Neymar, Suarez, Lewandowski
    2016: Cristiano Ronaldo (3), Messi, Suarez, Griezmann, Neymar
    2017: Cristiano Ronaldo (4), Messi, Neymar, Buffon Buffon
    2018: Messi (7?) / Modric, Cristiano Ronaldo, Salah, Griezmann
    2019: Messi (8?), van Djik, Mané, Cristiano Ronaldo, Hazard
    2020: Lewandowski, De Bruyne, Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Mbappé
    2021: Messi (9?), Lewandowski, Kanté, Benzema, De Bruyne
    2022: Benzema, Mbappé, Salah, De Bruyne, Lewandowski

    # All years tallies contain one vote from a Reddit voter until 1989, in addition to all the Big Soccer voter votes.
    # The tallies for the 1990 to 1996 Ballon d'Or votes include two sets of votes from Reddit voters, and the tallies for the 1997 to 1999 versions contain three.

    Number of win for each winners of the Ballon d'Or over the period 1940-2022 so far (only BigSoccer panel):

    - Messi (9 ?) (one shared with Modric)
    - Pelé (7)
    - Di Stefano (4)
    - Cruyff (4)
    - Maradona (4)
    - Cristiano Ronaldo (4)
    - Puskas (3)
    - Platini (3)
    - Zidane (3)
    - Moreno (2)
    - Zizinho (2)
    - Ademir (2)
    - Zico (2)
    - van Basten (2)
    - Ronaldo (2)
    - Figo (2)
    - Leonidas (1)
    - Martino (1)
    - Pedernera (1)
    - Mazzola (1)
    - Matthews (1)
    - Nordahl (1)
    - Kocsis (1)
    - Garrincha (1)
    - Eusebio (1)
    - Albert (1)
    - Best (1)
    - Blokhin (1)
    - Beckenbauer (1)
    - Keegan (1)
    - Kempes (1)
    - Gullit (1)
    - Matthaus (1)
    - Papin (1)
    - Baggio (1)
    - Romario (1)
    - Litmanen (1)
    - Rivaldo (1)
    - Nedved (1)
    - Henry (1)
    - Ronaldinho (1)
    - Cannavaro (1)
    - Kaka (1)
    - Modric (1) (one shared with Messi)
    - Lewandowski (1)
    - Benzema (1)

    If we extend to the number of times listed in the top 5 (and among top 3), we find the above players in more numbers of times mentioned so far (with a minimum of 6 nominations):

    - Messi (15 times with 15 times among top 3)
    - Cristiano Ronaldo (14 times with 11 times among top 3)
    - Pelé (12 times with 10 times among top 3)
    - Di Stefano (10 times with 6 times among top 3)
    - Maradona (9 times with 9 times among top 3)
    - Puskas (8 times with 6 times among top 3)
    - Cruyff (8 times with 5 times among top 3)
    - Zico (8 times with 5 times among top 3)
    - Beckenbauer (7 times with 6 times among top 3)
    - Zidane (7 times with 5 times among top 3)
    - Platini (7 times with 3 times among top 3)
    - Matthews (7 times with 2 times among top 3)
    - Kopa (6 times with 5 times among top 3)
     
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  9. IceBlood34

    IceBlood34 Member

    Montpellier HSC
    France
    Jan 27, 2021
    Updated version 13.5 so far (1940-2022):
    FOR BIG SOCCER + REDDIT PANEL CONSENSUS

    1940: Leonidas, Bican, Sastre, Binder, Erico
    1941: Moreno, Sastre, Garcia, Binder, Sarosi
    1942: Moreno (2), Pedernera, Varela, Bican, Lawton / Porta
    1943: Zizinho, Matthews, Varela, Moreno, Pedernera
    1944: Zizinho (2), Bican, Lawton, Matthews, Sosa
    1945: Martino, Mendez, Lawton, Matthews, Pedernera
    1946: Pedernera, Pontoni, Martino, Carter / Deak / Labruna / Matthews
    1947: Mazzola, Mannion, Di Stefano, Lawton / Moreno
    1948: Matthews, Mazzola / Puskas, Nordahl, Gren
    1949: Ademir, Deak, Zizinho, Mazzola, Puskas
    1950: Ademir (2), Puskas, Zizinho, Schiaffino, Varela
    1951: Nordahl, Liedholm, Di Stefano, Gren, Wilkes
    1952: Puskas, Kubala, Kocsis, Bozsik, Di Stefano
    1953: Puskas (2), Hidegkuti, Kopa, Matthews, Walter
    1954: Kocsis, Walter, Puskas, Schiaffino, Di Stefano
    1955: Di Stefano, Kopa, Schiaffino, Kocsis, Puskas
    1956: Di Stefano (2), Kopa, Schiaffino, Julinho, Matthews
    1957: Di Stefano (3), Didi, Kopa, Sivori, Edwards
    1958: Pelé, Didi, Kopa, Di Stefano, Fontaine
    1959: Di Stefano (4), Pelé, Luis Suarez, Didi, Kopa
    1960: Puskas (3), Luis Suarez, Pelé, Di Stefano, Yashin
    1961: Pelé (2), Sivori, Garrincha, Luis Suarez, Spencer
    1962: Garrincha, Pelé, Masopust, Eusebio, Coutinho
    1963: Pelé (3), Rivera, Greaves, Yashin, Eusebio
    1964: Pelé (4), Luis Suarez, Law, Eusebio, Amancio
    1965: Pelé (5), Eusebio, Facchetti, Luis Suarez, Mazzolla
    1966: Eusebio, Charlton, Beckenbauer, Moore, Pelé
    1967: Albert, Johnstone, Charlton, Cruyff, Rocha
    1968: Best, Charlton, Dzajic, Eusebio, Pelé
    1969: Pelé (6), Rivera, Tostao, Riva, Cruyff
    1970: Pelé (7), Jairzinho, Muller, Tostao, Gerson
    1971: Cruyff, Best, Mazzolla, Beckenbauer, Netzer
    1972: Cruyff (2), Beckenbauer, Muller, Netzer, Jairzinho
    1973: Cruyff (3), Muller, Beckenbauer, Zoff, Rivera
    1974: Cruyff (4), Beckenbauer, Deyna, Muller, Neeskens
    1975: Blokhin, Beckenbauer, Figueroa, Cruyff, Alonso
    1976: Beckenbauer, Rensenbrick, Figueroa, Zico, Passarella
    1977: Keegan, Cruyff, Simonsen, Zico, Platini
    1978: Kempes, Rensenbrick, Dalglish, Rossi, Keegan
    1979: Maradona, Keegan, Zico, Falcao, Rummenigge
    1980 : Maradona (2), Rummenigge, Zico, Schuster, Platini
    1981: Zico, Rummenigge, Maradona, Breitner, Platini
    1982: Zico (2), Falcao, Rossi, Rummenigge, Giresse
    1983: Platini, Falcao, Zico, Dalglish, Socrates
    1984: Platini (2), Tigana, Rush, Zico, Francescoli
    1985: Platini (3), Maradona, Elkjaer, Schuster, Boniek
    1986: Maradona (3), Lineker, Belanov, Platini, Butragueno / Careca
    1987: Maradona (4), Gullit, Futre, van Basten, Sanchez
    1988: Gullit, van Basten, Maradona, Koeman, Rijkaard
    1989: van Basten, Maradona, Baresi, Matthaus, Rijkaard
    1990: Matthaus, Maradona, Baresi, Brehme, Schilaci
    1991: Papin, Matthaus, Savicevic, Pancev, Prosinecki
    1992: van Basten (2), Stoichkov, Laudrup, Bergkamp, Schmeichel
    1993: Baggio, Bergkamp, Romario, Laudrup, Cantona
    1994; Romario, Stoichkov, Baggio, Maldini, Hagi
    1995: Litmanen, Weah, Klinsmann, Laudrup, Maldini
    1996: Ronaldo, Sammer, Weah, Shearer, Del Piero
    1997: Ronaldo (2), Zidane, R Carlos, Bergkamp, Mijatovic
    1998: Zidane, Ronaldo, Suker, Bergkamp, Rivaldo
    1999: Rivaldo, Beckham, Shevchenko, Figo / Batistuta

    2000: Figo, Zidane, Shevchenko, Rivaldo, Totti
    2001: Figo (2), Raul, Owen, Kahn, Zidane
    2002: Ronaldo (3), Zidane, R Carlos, Ballack, Kahn
    2003: Henry, Nedved, Zidane, Maldini, van Nistelrooy
    2004: Henry (2), Ronaldinho, Shevchenko, Deco, Nedved
    2005: Ronaldinho, Lampard, Gerrard, Henry, Adriano
    2006: Cannavaro, Ronaldinho, Henry, Zidane, Buffon
    2007: Kaka, Cristiano Ronaldo, Messi, Drogba, Pirlo
    2008: Cristiano Ronaldo, Messi, F Torres, Xavi, Casillas
    2009: Messi, Xavi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Iniesta, Eto'o
    2010: Messi (2), Sneijder, Xavi, Iniesta, Forlan
    2011: Messi (3), Cristiano Ronaldo, Xavi, Iniesta, Rooney
    2012: Messi (4), Cristiano Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Pirlo
    2013: Messi (5), Cristiano Ronaldo, Ribery, Ibrahimovic, Robben
    2014: Cristiano Ronaldo (2), Messi, Neuer, Robben, Suarez
    2015: Messi (6), Cristiano Ronaldo, Neymar, Suarez, Lewandowski
    2016: Cristiano Ronaldo (3), Messi, Suarez, Griezmann, Neymar
    2017: Cristiano Ronaldo (4), Messi, Neymar, Modric, Buffon
    2018: Modric, Cristiano Ronaldo, Messi, Salah, Griezmann
    2019: Messi (7), van Djik, Mané, Cristiano Ronaldo, Salah
    2020: Lewandowski, Messi, De Bruyne, Cristiano Ronaldo, Mbappé
    2021: Messi (8), Lewandowski, Benzema, Kanté, Jorginho
    2022: Benzema, Mbappé, Salah, Mané, De Bruyne

    Number of win for each winners of the Ballon d'Or over the period 1940-2022 so far (BigSoccer/Reddit):

    - Messi (8)
    - Pelé (7)
    - Di Stefano (4)
    - Cruyff (4)
    - Maradona (4)
    - Cristiano Ronaldo (4)
    - Puskas (3)
    - Platini (3)
    - Ronaldo (3)
    - Moreno (2)
    - Zizinho (2)
    - Ademir (2)
    - Zico (2)
    - van Basten (2)
    - Figo (2)
    - Henry (2)
    - Leonidas (1)
    - Martino (1)
    - Pedernera (1)
    - Mazzola (1)
    - Matthews (1)
    - Nordahl (1)
    - Kocsis (1)
    - Garrincha (1)
    - Eusebio (1)
    - Albert (1)
    - Best (1)
    - Blokhin (1)
    - Beckenbauer (1)
    - Keegan (1)
    - Kempes (1)
    - Gullit (1)
    - Matthaus (1)
    - Papin (1)
    - Baggio (1)
    - Romario (1)
    - Litmanen (1)
    - Rivaldo (1)
    - Zidane (1)
    - Ronaldinho (1)
    - Cannavaro (1)
    - Kaka (1)
    - Modric (1)
    - Lewandowski (1)
    - Benzema (1)

    If we extend to the number of times listed in the top 5 (and among top 3), we find the above players in more numbers of times mentioned so far (BigSoccer/Reddit) (with a minimum of 6 nominations):

    - Messi (15 times with 15 times among top 3)
    - Cristiano Ronaldo (13 times with 11 times among top 3)
    - Pelé (12 times with 10 times among top 3)
    - Di Stefano (10 times with 6 times among top 3)
    - Maradona (9 times with 9 times among top 3)
    - Puskas (8 times with 6 times among top 3)
    - Cruyff (8 times with 5 times among top 3)
    - Zico (8 times with 5 times among top 3)
    - Beckenbauer (7 times with 6 times among top 3)
    - Zidane (7 times with 5 times among top 3)
    - Platini (7 times with 3 times among top 3)
    - Matthews (7 times with 2 times among top 3)
    - Kopa (6 times with 5 times among top 3)
     
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  10. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

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    Thanks Lasha. Actually, it occured to me to ask another follow-up question (because I'm not aware of which book you refer to, to be honest, or the period covered in it; and because as far as I knew elegos had predominantly concentrated on early years with his Big Soccer posts):

    Did elegos7 happen to continue making selections into the 1950s, and perhaps beyond too? For sure they'd be interesting to know about too I think, and I'm guessing IceBlood would be happy to have them included as votes for years after 1949.

    I know that elegos7 and Peterhrt are providing a big part of our voting panel for early years (whether we count their joint selections as double-votes for up to 1920, or perhaps work out individual selections from their posts), but just like Peter has voted on later decades, elegos could do the same (and if he's already made selections we could use those of course).
     
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  11. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

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    Working backwards now for the 1930s, beginning with (1938/)1939 (peterhrt's selections for this decade are on the 'Best Footballers of the 1910s' thread actually):

    1939 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Arsenio Erico (Paraguay/Independiente) - 49
    2 Gyula Zsengeller (Hungray/Ujpest) - 38
    3 Tommy Lawton (England/Everton) - 29
    4 Antonio Sastre (Argentina/Independiente) - 26
    5 Stanley Matthews (England/Stoke City) - 19
    6 Jose Manuel Moreno (Argentina/River Plate) - 13
    7 Leonidas (Brazil/Flamengo) - 6
    8 Michele Andreolo (Italy/Bologna), Vicente de la Mata (Argentina/Independiente), Isidro Langara (Basque Country*/Deportivo Euzkadi/San Lorenzo) - 1
     
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  12. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
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    Now onto (1937/)1938, and I can get (1936/)1937 done today too....

    1938 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Gyorgy Sarosi (Hungary/Ferencvaros) - 68
    2 Leonidas (Brazil/Flamengo) - 43
    3 Arsenio Erico (Paraguay/Independiente) - 24
    4 Giussepe Meazza (Italy/Inter Milan) - 14
    5 Josef Bican (Czecholovakia*/Slavia Prague) - 13
    6 Stanley Matthews (England/Stoke City) - 9
    7 Silvio Piola (Italy/Lazio) - 5
    8 Gyula Zsengeller (Hungary/Ujpest) - 2
    9 Cliff Bastin (England/Arsenal), Antonio Sastre (Argentina/Independiente) - 1
     
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  13. Lasha the Idiotic

    FC Barcelona
    Georgia
    Jul 19, 2021
    Yes, his book includes every year until the year in which the book is made (I don't remember the specific date, but probably 2021).
     
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    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
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    1937 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Gyorgy Sarosi (Hungary/Ferencvaros) - 70
    2 Silvio Piola (Italy/Lazio) - 33
    3 Arsenio Erico (Paraguay/Independiente) - 27
    4 Antonio Sastre (Argentina/Independiente) - 24
    5 Jose Manuel Moreno (Argentina/River Plate) - 15
    6 Fritz Szepan (Germany/Schalke) - 5
    7 Tommy Walker (Scotland/Heart of Midlothian) - 4
    8 Giussepe Meazza (Italy/Inter Milan) - 2
    9 Michele Andreolo (Italy/Bologna), Carlos Peucelle (Argentina/River Plate) - 1
     
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  15. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

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    Cool. From my perspective you'd be welcome to post the 1950s ones here too next, whenever you like (I could probably adjust the standings as necessary to factor in votes for him pretty quickly, without delaying my 1930s updates very much...or I could do it right after finishing with the 1930s which might make sense).
     
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  16. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

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    1936 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Giussepe Meazza (Italy/Inter Milan) - 66
    2 Matthias Sindelar (Austria/Austria Vienna) - 40
    3 Gyorgy Sarosi (Hungary/Ferencvaros) - 33
    4 Cliff Bastin (England/Arsenal) - 13
    5 Raich Carter (England/Sunderland) - 9
    6 Oldrich Nejedly (Czechoslovakia/Sparta Prague) - 7
    7 Raymond Braine (Belgium/Sparta Prague/Beerschot), Jimmy McGrory (Scotland/Celtic) - 4
    9 Frantisek Planicka (Czechoslovakia/Slavia Prague) - 2
    10 Michele Andreolo (Italy/Bologna), Isidro Langara (Spain/Oviedo) - 1
     
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    1935 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Gyorgy Sarosi (Hungary/Ferencvaros) - 56
    2 Raymond Braine (Belgium/Sparta Prague) - 38
    3 Cliff Bastin (England/Arsenal) - 32
    4 Matthias Sindelar (Austria/Austria Vienna) - 16
    5 Giussepe Meazza (Italy/Inter Milan) - 9
    6 Ted Drake (England/Arsenal) - 6
    7 Eric Brook (England/Manchester City), Alex James (Scotland/Arsenal) - 5
    9 Enrique Guaita (Italy*/Roma) - 4
    10 Ernest Kuzorra (Germany/Schalke), Fritz Szepan (Germany/Schalke) - 3
    12 Giovanni Ferrari (Italy/Juventus/Inter Milan) - 2
    13 Eddie Hapgood (England/Arsenal) - 1
     
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    1934 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Giussepe Meazza (Italy/Inter Milan) - 60
    2 Oldrich Nejedly (Czechoslovakia/Sparta Prague) - 34
    3 Matthias Sindelar (Austria/Austria Vienna) - 25
    4 Luis Monti (Italy*/Juventus) - 24
    5 Raimundo Orsi (Italy*/Juventus) - 16
    6 Isidro Langara (Spain/Oviedo) - 6
    7 Eric Brook (England/Manchester City), Gyorgy Sarosi (Hungary/Ferencvaros) - 4
    9 Jacinto Quincoces (Spain/Real Madrid) - 3
    10 Giovanni Ferrari (Italy/Juventus), Eraldo Monzeglio (Italy/Bologna), Frantisek Planicka (Czechoslovakia/Slavia Prague), Fritz Szepan (Germany/Schalke) - 1
     
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  19. Buyo

    Buyo Member

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Dec 20, 2020
    #1194 Buyo, Feb 16, 2023
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    I admit that I have had many doubts and if I were to make the list again tomorrow it would almost certainly not be the same as this one, although logically it would coincide in most of it.

    My list by year ordered from first to fifth:

    1920: Romano, Piendibene, Morris, Van Hege, Zamora
    1921: Orth, Pesek, Friedenreich, Libonati, Zamora
    1922: Seaone, Orth, Alcántara, Pesek, Wilson
    1923: Scarone, Buchan, Pesek, Morton, Nasazzi
    1924: Andrade, Petrone, Scarone, Abegglen, Walker
    1925: Scarone, Gallacher, Smitier, Seaone, Stark
    1926: Jackson, Andrade, Scarone, Seaone, Zamora
    1927: Gallacher, McGrory, Pesek, Monti, Dean
    1928: Dean, Takacs, Baloncieri, Scarone, Jackson
    1929: Zamora, Ferreira, Morton, Avar, Planicka

    1930: Nassazi, Meazza, Smistik, Monti, Andrade
    1931: Orsi, James, Meazza, Gschweild, Ferrari
    1932: Sindelar, Orsi, Ferreyra, Schall, Dean
    1933: Sindelar, Meazza, Zamora, Bastin, Orsi
    1934: Meazza, Nejedly, Sindelar, Monti, Lángara
    1935: Sarosi, Braine, Sindelar, Bastin, Meazza
    1936: Meazza, Sindelar, Sarosi, Nejedly, Lángara
    1937: Sarosi, Erico, Piola, Sastre, Moreno
    1938: Sarosi, Leonidas,Meazza, Bican, Erico
    1939: Erico, Zsengeller, Lawton, Lolo Fernández, Moreno

    1940: Leónidas, Bican, Binder, Sarosi, Lángara
    1941: Moreno, Sastre, Pedernera, Binder, Atilio García
    1942: Moreno, Pedernera, Varela, Bican, Lawton
    1943: Zizinho, Varela, Matthews, Leonidas, Pedernera
    1944: Bican, Zizinho, Matthews, Lawton, Labruna
    1945: Méndez, Martino, Sastre, Lawton, Ademir
    1946: Pedernera, Deak, Pontoni, Martino, V. Mazzola
    1947: Di Stéfano, V. Mazzola, Moreno, Lawton, Matthews
    1948: Matthews, V. Mazzola, Puskas, Nordhal, Gren
    1949: Ademir, Puskas, Deak, Zizinho, V. Mazzola

    1950: Puskas, Ademir, Varela, Zizinho, Schiaffino
    1951: Nordhal, Di Stefano, Liedholm, Orwick, Wilkes
    1952: Puskas, Kocsis, kubala, Bozsik, Di Stefano
    1953: Puskas, Hidegkuti, Kopa, Matthews, Walter
    1954, Kocsis, Walter, Puskas, Schiaffino, Di Stefano
    1955: Di Stefano, Kopa, Schiaffino, Vukas, Bozsic
    1956: Di Stefano, Kopa, Julinho, Schiaffino, Wright
    1957: Di Stéfano, Didí, Sívori, Edwars, Gento
    1958: Pelé, Kopa, Didí, Di Stéfano, Fontaine
    1959: Di Stéfano, Pelé, Kopa, Didí, Luis Suárez Miramontes

    1960: Puskas, Suárez, Yashin, Di Stéfano, Pelé
    1961: Pelé, Sívori, Garrincha, Spencer, Luis Suárez Miramontes
    1962: Pelé, Garrincha, Masoputs, Eusebio, Puskas
    1963, Pele, Rivera, Yashin, Greaves, Eusebio
    1964, Luis Suárez Miramontes, Pele, Law, Amancio, Eusebio
    1965: Pele, Eusebio, Luis Suárez Miramontes, Facchetti, Rocha
    1966: Eusebio, Charlton, Beckenbauer, Moore, Albert
    1967: Albert, Rocha, Johnstone, S. Mazzola, Beckenbauer
    1968: Best, Charlton, Dzajic, Eusebio, Pele
    1969: Rivera, Pele, Riva, Tostao, Cruyff

    1970: Pele, Jairzinho, Muller, Riva, Tostao
    1971: Cruyff, Beckenbauer, Best, Artime, Rivelino
    1972: Muller, Cruyff, Netzer, Beckenbauer, Jairzinho
    1973: Cruyff, Zoff, Beckenbauer, Muller, Rivera
    1974: Cruyff, Beckenbauer, Deyna, Breitner, Neeskens
    1975: Blokhin, Beckenbauer, Figueroa, Vogts, Cruyff
    1976: Beckenbauer, Figueroa, Rensenbrink, Zico, Pasarella
    1977: Keegan, Zico, Simonsen, Cruyff, Platini
    1978: Kempes, Rensenbrink, Rossi, Daglish, Krol
    1979: Maradona, Zico, Keegan, Falcao, Rummenigge

    1980: Maradona, Rummenigge, Zico, Schuster, Platini
    1981: Zico, Rummenigge, Maradona, Platini, Breitner
    1982: Zico, Rossi, Rummenigge, Falcao, Scirea
    1983: Platini, Sócrates, Falcao, Francescoli, Zico
    1984: Platini, Rush, Tigana, Zico, Falcao
    1985: Platini, Maradona, Boniek, Eljaer Larsen, Schuster
    1986: Maradona, Lineker, Butragueño, Belanov, Platini
    1987: Maradona, Gullit, Futre, Hugo Sánchez, Van Basten
    1988: Gullit, Van Basten, Maradona, Koeman, Rijkaard
    1989: Van Basten, Maradona, Baresi, Rijkaard, Matthaus

    1990: Matthaus, Maradona,, Brehme, Baresi, Hugo Sánchez
    1991: Matthaus, Savicevic, Papin, Prosinecki, Pancev
    1992: Van Basten, M. Laudrup, Bergkamp, Stoichkov, Schmeichel
    1993: R. Baggio, Bergkamp, Romario, Laudrup, Cantona
    1994: Romario, Stoichkov, Baggio, Maldini, Hagi
    1995: Francescoli, Weah, Litmanen, Maldini, Klinsmann
    1996: Ronaldo, Sammer, Shearer, Del Piero, Klinsmann
    1997: Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Zidane, Mijatovic, Bergkamp
    1998: Zidane, Ronaldo, Bergkamp, Suker, Batistuta
    1999: Rivaldo, Beckham, Shevchenko, Batistuta, Giggs

    2000: Figo, Zidane, Rivaldo, Shevchenko, Raúl
    2001: Raúl, Figo, Owen, Kanh, Zidane
    2002: Roberto Carlos, Ronaldo, Zidane, Kanh, Ballack
    2003: Henry, Nedved, Zidane, Maildini, Van Nistelrooy
    2004: Ronaldinho, Henry, Deco, Shevchenko, Nedved
    2005: Ronaldinho, Lampard, Gerrard, Henry, Adriano
    2006: Cannavaro, Buffon, Henry, Zidane, Ronaldinho
    2007: Kaká, Cristiano, Messi, Pirlo, Drogba
    2008: Cristiano, Messi, Torres, Casillas, Xavi
    2009: Messi, Cristiano, Xavi, Iniesta, Eto’o

    2010: Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Sneijder, Villa
    2011: Messi, Cristiano, Xavi, Iniesta, Rooney
    2012: Messi, Cristiano, Iniesta, Xavi, Pirlo
    2013: Cristiano, Messi, Ribery, Robben, Ibrahimovic
    2014: Cristiano, Messi, Robben, Neuer, Luis Alberto Suárez
    2015: Messi, Cristiano, Neymar, Luis Alberto Suárez, Lewandowski
    2016: Cristiano, Messi, Luis Alberto Suárez, Griezmann, Neymar
    2017: Cristiano, Messi, Modric, Neymar, Buffon
    2018: Modric, Cristiano, Messi, Salah, Mbappé
    2019: Van Dijk, Messi, Mané, Cristiano, Salah

    2020: Lewandowski, Messi, De Bruyne, Cristiano, Mbappé
    2021: Lewandowski, Messi, Benzema, Kante, De Bruyne
    2022: Mbappé, Benzema, Messi, Mané, Salah
     
  20. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    1940s standings, with the new votes from Buyo factored in too now (NOTE - Sarosi should have been showing with 12 points rather than 9, indeed in 5th place, for 1941 after Dearman's vote - I'd just forgotten to change his points total originally after I moved him up the list, but funnily enough Pedernera does now overtake him anyway for that year - I updated the top 35 points scorers separately so that should still have been correct after I added Dearman's vote in)...

    1940 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Leonidas (Brazil/Flamengo) - 68
    2 Josef Bican (Czechoslovakia*/Slavia Prague) - 50
    3 Antonio Sastre (Argentina/Independiente) - 19
    4 Franz Binder (Germany*/Rapid Vienna) - 17
    5 Arsenio Erico (Paraguay/Independiente) - 9
    6 Iuliu Baratky (Romania/Rapid Bucharest) - 6
    7 Gyorgy Sarosi (Hungary/Ferencvaros) - 5
    8 Emilio Baldonedo (Argentina/Huracan), Delfin Benitez Caceres (Paraguay/Racing Club de Avellaneda) - 4
    10 Atilio Garcia (Uruguay/Nacional), Ernst Kuzorra (Germany/Schalke), Jose Manuel Moreno (Argentina/River Plate) - 2
    13 Isidro Langara (Spain/San Lorenzo), Romeu (Brazil/Fluminense), Fritz Szepan (Germany/Schalke) - 1

    1941 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Jose Manuel Moreno (Argentina/River Plate) - 76
    2 Antonio Sastre (Argentina/Independiente) - 31
    3 Atilio Garcia (Uruguay/Nacional) - 20
    4 Franz Binder (Germany*/Rapid Vienna) - 17
    5 Adolfo Pedernera (Argentina/River Plate) - 14
    6 Gyorgy Sarosi (Hungary/Ferencvaros) - 12
    7 Josef Bican (Czechoslovakia*/Slavia Prague), Isidro Langara (Spain/San Lorenzo) - 6
    9 Roberto Porta (Uruguay/Nacional) - 5
    10 Leonidas (Brazil/Flamengo), Teleco (Brazil/Corinthians) - 1

    1942 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Jose Manuel Moreno (Argentina/River Plate) - 74
    2 Adolfo Pedernera (Argentina/River Plate) - 47
    3 Obdulio Varela (Uruguay/Montevideo Wanderers) - 19
    4 Josef Bican (Czechoslovakia*/Slavia Prague) - 16
    5 Tommy Lawton (England/Everton) - 9
    6 Roberto Porta (Uruguay/Nacional) - 8
    7 Anibal Ciocca (Uruguay/Nacional) - 7
    8 Fritz Walter (Germany/Kaiserslautern) - 4
    9 Stanley Matthews (England/Stoke City), Zizinho (Brazil/Flamengo) - 2
    11 Heleno de Freitas (Brazil/Botafogo), Rinaldo Martino (Argentina/San Lorenzo), Mundo (Spain/Valencia) - 1

    1943 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Zizinho (Brazil/Flamengo) - 40
    2 Stanley Matthews (England/Stoke City) - 30
    3 Severino Varela (Uruguay/Boca Juniors) - 27
    4 Jose Manuel Moreno (Argentina/River Plate), Adolfo Pedernera (Argentina/River Plate) - 20
    6 Antonio Sastre (Argentina/Sao Paulo) - 16
    7 Leonidas (Brazil/Sao Paulo) - 7
    8 Josef Bican (Czechoslovakia*/Slavia Prague), Atilio Garcia (Uruguay/Nacional) - 5
    10 Silvio Piola (Italy/Lazio) - 3
    11 Raich Carter (England/Sunderland), Domingos da Guia (Brazil/Flamengo), Jose Salomon (Argentina/Racing Club de Avellaneda) - 1

    1944 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Zizinho (Brazil/Flamengo) - 41
    2 Josef Bican (Czechoslovakia*/Slavia Prague) - 40
    3 Tommy Lawton (England/Everton) - 35
    4 Stanley Matthews (England/Stoke City) - 26
    5 Carlos Sosa (Argentina/Boca Juniors) - 11
    6 Severino Varela (Uruguay/Boca Juniors) - 6
    7 Angel Labruna (Argentina/River Plate) - 5
    8 Jair da Rosa Pinto (Brazil/Vasco da Gama) - 3
    9 Mario Boye (Argentina/Boca Juniors), Obdulio Varela (Uruguay/Penarol) - 2
    11 Karl Decker (Austria/First Vienna), Epi Fernandez (Spain/Valencia), Luisinho (Brazil/Sao Paulo), Mundo (Spain/Valencia), Antonio Sastre (Argentina/Sao Paulo) - 1

    1945 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Rinaldo Martino (Argentina/San Lorenzo) - 44
    2 Norberto Mendez (Argentina/Huracan) - 31
    3 Tommy Lawton (England/Everton) - 24
    4 Stanley Matthews (England/Stoke City) - 20
    5 Adolfo Pedernera (Argentina/River Plate) - 16
    6 Ademir de Menezes (Brazil/Vasco da Gama) - 13
    7 Angel Labruna (Argentina/River Plate) - 12
    8 Jose Manuel Moreno (Argentina/Real Club Espana) - 4
    9 Helenio de Freitas (Brazil/Botafogo), Antonio Sastre (Argentina/Sao Paulo) - 3
    10 Felix Loustau (Argentina/River Plate), Obdulio Varela (Uruguay/Penarol), Zizinho (Brazil/Flamengo) - 2

    1946 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Adolfo Pedernera (Argentina/River Plate) - 56
    2 Rene Pontoni (Argentina/San Lorenzo) - 26
    3 Rinaldo Martino (Argentina/San Lorenzo) - 20
    4 Ferenc Deak (Hungary/Szentlorinci) - 14
    5 Raich Carter (England/Sunderland/Derby County), Angel Labruna (Argentina/River Plate), Stanley Matthews (England/Stoke City) - 10
    8 Valentino Mazzola (Italy/Torino), Norberto Mendez (Argentina/Huracan), Zizinho (Brazil/Flamengo) - 7
    11 Gyula Zsengeller (Hungary/Ujpest) - 4
    12 Tommy Lawton (England/Chelsea) - 3
    13 Gunnar Gren (Sweden/Gothenburg) - 2

    1947 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Valentino Mazzola (Italy/Torino) - 54
    2 Alfredo Di Stefano (Argentina/River Plate) - 30
    3 Wilf Mannion (England/Middlesbrough) - 29
    4 Jose Manuel Moreno (Argentina/River Plate) - 26
    5 Tommy Lawton (England/Chelsea/Notts County) - 25
    6 Stanley Matthews (England/Stoke City/Blackpool) - 17
    7 Rene Pontoni (Argentina/San Lorenzo) - 7
    8 Ferenc Deak (Hungary/Szentlorinci/Ferencvaros) - 4
    9 Rinaldo Martino (Argentina/San Lorenzo) - 3
    10 Felix Loustau (Argentina/River Plate) - 1

    1948 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Stanley Matthews (England/Blackpool) - 65
    2 Valentino Mazzola (Italy/Torino) - 35
    3 Ferenc Puskas (Hungary/Kispest) - 34
    4 Gunnar Nordahl (Sweden/Norrkoping) - 29
    5 Gunnar Gren (Sweden/Gothenburg) - 15
    6 Danilo Alvim (Brazil/Vasco da Gama), Alfredo Di Stefano (Argentina/River Plate/Millonarios) - 6
    8 Tom Finney (England/Preston North End) - 4
    9 Ferenc Deak (Hungary/Ferencvaros), Jose Manuel Moreno (Argentina/River Plate) - 1

    1949 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Ademir de Menezes (Brazil/Vasco da Gama) - 43
    2 Ferenc Deak (Hungary/Ferencvaros) - 36
    3 Zizinho (Brazil/Flamengo) - 34
    4 Valentino Mazzola (Italy/Torino), Ferenc Puskas (Hungary/Kispest) - 23
    6 Gunnar Gren (Sweden/Gothenburg/AC Milan), Jair da Rosa Pinto (Brazil/Flamengo/Palmeiras) - 12
    8 Ernst Ocwirk (Austria/Austria Vienna) - 7
    9 Alfredo Di Stefano (Argentina/Millonarios), Juan Schiaffino (Uruguay/Penarol) - 2
    11 Johnny Carey (Ireland/Manchester United), Oscar Miguez (Uruguay/Penarol) - 1

    @Buyo I've assumed that for 1942 your vote included Obdulio Varela, and for 1943 it included Severino Varela, but of course let me know if that's not right.
     
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  21. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Update on this again too, following Buyo's votes being added in:

    1) Jose Manuel Moreno - 203
    2) Stanley Matthews - 170
    3) Adolfo Pedernera - 153
    4) Zizinho - 126
    5) Valentino Mazzola - 119
    6) Josef Bican - 117
    7) Tommy Lawton - 96
    8) Leonidas - 76
    9) Antonio Sastre - 70
    10) Rinaldo Martino - 68
    11) Ferenc Puskas - 57
    12) Ademir de Menezes - 56
    13) Ferenc Deak - 55
    14= Alfredo Di Stefano, Norberto Mendez - 38
    16) Franz Binder - 34
    17= Rene Pontoni, Severino Varela - 33
    19= Gunnar Gren, Wilf Mannion, Gunnar Nordahl - 29,
    22= Atilio Garcia, Angel Labruna - 27
    24) Obdulio Varela - 23
    25) Gyorgy Sarosi - 17
    26) Jair da Rosa Pinto - 15,
    27) Roberto Porta - 13
    28= Raich Carter, Carlos Sosa - 11
    30) Arsenio Erico - 9
    31= Anibal Ciocca, Isidro Langara, Ernst Ocwirk - 7
    34= Danilo Alvim, Iuliu Baratky - 6
     
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  22. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    I'll add in Buyo's votes for the 1934 to 1939 Ballon d'Ors Revisited when I do the final 1930s summary, but I'm picking up again with the first four editions of that decade now, and including Buyo's votes for those....

    1933 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Matthias Sindelar (Austria/Austria Vienna) - 78
    2 Giussepe Meazza (Italy/Inter Milan) - 49
    3 Raimundo Orsi (Italy*/Juventus) - 21
    4 Cliff Bastin (England/Arsenal) - 18
    5 Ricardo Zamora (Spain/Real Madrid) - 11
    6 Luis Monti (Italy*/Juventus) - 10
    7 Alex James (Scotland/Arsenal) - 5.5
    8 Gyorgy Sarosi (Hungary/Ferencvaros) - 4.5
    9 Eddie Hapgood (England/Arsenal), Francisco Varello (Argentina/Boca Juniors) - 1
     
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  23. Buyo

    Buyo Member

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Dec 20, 2020
    Hello, it is indeed as you say: Obdulio for 1942 (and for 1950) and Severino for 1943.

    Thanks
     
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  24. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    1932 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Matthias Sindelar (Austria/Austria Vienna) - 76
    2 Raimundo Orsi (Italy*/Juventus) - 38
    3 Anton Schall (Austria/Admira Vienna) - 29
    4 Alex James (Scotland/Arsenal) - 15
    5 Dixie Dean (England/Everton), Bernabe Ferreyra (Argentina/Velez Sarsfield/River Plate) - 14
    7 Raymond Braine (Belgium/Sparta Prague) - 3
    8 Giovanni Ferrari (Italy/Juventus), Angelo Schiavio (Italy/Bologna) - 2
    10 Renato Cesarini (Italy/Juventus), Fritz Gschweidl (Austria/First Vienna), Gyorgy Sarosi (Hungary/Ferencvaros) - 1
     
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  25. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    1931 Ballon d'Or Revisited Big Soccer panel consensus
    1
    Raimundo Orsi (Italy*/Juventus) - 66
    2 Alex James (Scotland/Arsenal) - 47
    3 Giussepe Meazza (Italy/Inter Milan) - 28
    4 Fritz Gschweidl (Austria/First Vienna) - 25
    5 Matthias Sindelar (Austria/Austria Vienna) - 22
    6 Anton Schall (Austria/Admira Vienna) - 5
    7 Josef Blum (Austria/First Vienna), Giovanni Ferrari (Italy/Juventus), Bob McPhail (Scotland/Rangers), Josef Smistik (Austria/Rapid Vienna), Tom Waring (England/Aston Villa) - 1
     
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