Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores (r)

Discussion in 'Copa Libertadores / Sudamericana' started by vipnerd, Dec 3, 2004.

  1. vipnerd

    vipnerd Member

    Nov 26, 2003
    La Mitad + Román
    Starting in Libertadores 2005, from Round of 16 (Octavos de Final) thru the Final, CONMEBOL is introducing the away goal rule used in Europe.

    For example ... lets take last years semis or final as example:

    Boca 1 - River 0
    River 2 - Boca 1 ..... In this case Boca goes thru on away goals. No need of penalties to defeat River. ;)

    Boca 0 - Once Caldas 0
    Once Caldas 1 - Boca 1 ... In this case, Boca would have been champ.

    We will only see penalty kicks to define a game when BOTH RESULTS are the same.


    Comments?


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  2. Lithium858

    Lithium858 Member

    Aug 11, 2002
    Baton Rouge
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    That should make things a little more interesting. Why did they change it to that anyway?
     
  3. vipnerd

    vipnerd Member

    Nov 26, 2003
    La Mitad + Román
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    Ooooooooooops .. sorry, NOT IN THE FINAL.

    The final will still be a 2 game, home and away. If there is a tie in points and goals (NOT AWAY GOALS RULE), then the modification for Libertadores 2005 is the addition of extra time, 2 periods of 15 minutes each,after which, if there is still a tie, then they go to penalties.

    Also the away goal rule applies for the 1st Fase where it is a 2 game, home and away bracket.



    http://www.conmebol.com/articulos_ver.jsp?id=57417&slangab=S

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  4. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    It is also used in CONCACAF and in the AFC...
     
  5. afa10fef

    afa10fef Member

    Aug 13, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    ive actually never followed the CL but i definitely want to this time around...when does this tourney start and end?...LIKE TO SEE BOCA AND DEP.CUENCA against the other giant clubs of SA
     
  6. DanRod78

    DanRod78 New Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Kansas City, KS
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    8 teams have to play each other for 4 spots in the tournament sometime around February 2nd.

    The tournament is going to start around February 8th-12th
     
  7. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    its an incentive for visiting teams to attack and score goals....we'll see how it works out.
     
  8. Zitor

    Zitor New Member

    Nov 21, 2004
    Chicago
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    Under this rule, teams like Boca would not easily advance:
    latest example, and there's been planty in the past.

    ARG:
    Boca 2 Cerro 2

    PAR.
    Boca 0 Cerro 0
     
  9. Wile Coyote

    Wile Coyote Red Card

    Sep 21, 2000
    Punta del Este, Uru.
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    I hate this idiot idea....I dont mind the expansion but any thing that UEFA does should stay in UEFA....... I think that the way goal rules will count only in the first round...

    I still say there is better games and drama in la libertadores then in the champions league..

    all in all it should be a nice 2005
     
  10. go_otrova

    go_otrova New Member

    Jan 3, 2004
    Palatine
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    "El projimo alaba la caridad porque cocecha sus efectos" Nietzche.
    Maybe that is for you too. You love it because it helps Boca. Don't be affraid of some changes, IMO drama will prevail.
     
  11. Lithium858

    Lithium858 Member

    Aug 11, 2002
    Baton Rouge
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    Which club looks like the best to win it all this time around then?
     
  12. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    mmm, wouldn't this new rule tend to benefit those teams playing at high altitudes? ..Euro clubs as far as i know, don't have such concerns..... I say this based on how most teams approach club games (already with few days to rest+ travel issues), when going to La PAz, Quito, Bogota, or Mexico DF.....
    They'll usually try to keep scoring to a minimum, unless they fall behind, because they know they don't want to run out of oxygen......

    Oh, well.....I just think it is a very dumb idea that was not thought through
     
  13. Argentine Futbol

    Argentine Futbol Red Card

    Feb 21, 2003
    Old Greenwich, CT
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    Ridiculous fuvk up European disease this away goal rule. A Goal is a goal no matter what. Not double or triple. What the fvck are we playing ???? Australian rule Football?
     
  14. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    yes, it looks like S.A. is losing its Fútbol identity, now we kiss/wash UEFA's feet.
     
  15. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    I agree with you!


    now, I question: is there any of your posts without the F bombs?

    welcome here, BTW :D
     
  16. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    i am far more concerned about the advantage this rule could give high altitude teams, than whether it is simply about imitating the European way...On the latter, i really could not care less about it (either way), to be honest.....
     
  17. vipnerd

    vipnerd Member

    Nov 26, 2003
    La Mitad + Román
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores


    Lol ... the result was 1-1 in Salta. (Pato got the penalty ;) )


    :D

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  18. Visca...

    Visca... Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    ATL
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    The team that needs that goal will try at any cause to get it. It will make the game a lot more interesting because some 2nd leg games are so boring because the away team comforts itself with winning at home and getting a tie away. But if the away team scored in the 1st leg, then in the 2nd leg, there'll be a lot more excitement. I also think it's time to try a one match for the final. Just one game in the final and have the final in different venues each year (there a lot of very good stadiums in South America and Mexico) That would be sweet. But I can also see the local people from the city hosting the final not being interested in it jsut because their local team is not playing. This might hurt the chances of a one leg final.
     
  19. El Guero Naco

    El Guero Naco New Member

    Sep 1, 2003
    Atlanta, GA
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    Hopefully two things brought this about:

    1. Once Caldas playing for a 0-0 draw away and either a win or draw at home, which made them one of the smartest but hardest to watch winners.

    2. How Santos Laguna got completely jobbed at River Plate last year. Nobody remembers that they actually won in Monumental, just that they got completely ripped off in the PKs.
     
  20. jlscrub

    jlscrub New Member

    Jul 9, 2004
    Toronto
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    I agree aswell.
     
  21. vivaelbolivar

    vivaelbolivar New Member

    Aug 21, 2003
    RFK & EL MADRIGAL
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    must they copy everything from europe :confused:
     
  22. Bill Schmidt

    Bill Schmidt BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 3, 2003
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    The Copa Libertadores definitely looks better on TV because of the crowds.
     
  23. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    when will this gol away rule, affects or kills a team?
     
  24. Visca...

    Visca... Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    ATL
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Re: Away Goal Rule ... New format for Libertadores

    It will make the tournament a lot more interesting. Competition will be more intense.
     
  25. The_Sandman

    The_Sandman New Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Is there away goals rule?

    Sorry if this has been asked many times before but I'm new to the tournament rules, and conmebol.com is only in Spanish. How is a tie broken after the 2 legs? Do they have an away goal rule or does it go straight to ET?
     

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