avril lavigne: manufactered or the real deal?

Discussion in 'Movies, TV and Music' started by phats_away, Sep 25, 2002.

  1. phats_away

    phats_away Member

    Jul 28, 2001
    Atlanta, Ga
    discuss.... well.... maybe
     
  2. nicodemus

    nicodemus Member+

    Sep 3, 2001
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    seems pretty manufactured to me with the tie and t-shirt thing combined with the socks on the arms.
     
  3. empennage

    empennage Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Phoenix, AZ
    Well she's no Brittney Spears, but she's also not original so I picked other.
     
  4. Unorthodox Yank

    Feb 27, 2001
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    does it really matter?

    Either way, it wont change the fact that she is a less than good musical artist.
     
  5. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    Here's my take:
    Avril is sincere and her lyrics are earnest products of her.. uh... creativity. In that sense, she's not Britney.

    But it's not 1999 any more and cute singer-song writer girls are what labels want these days, and Avril fits the description. In that sense, she is the label's puppet, and nothing more than Britney with a spiked wrist band.
     
  6. empennage

    empennage Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Phoenix, AZ
    She also doesn't have the looks of Spears, so she has to rely on her creativity.
     
  7. SportBoy321

    SportBoy321 New Member

    Jul 6, 2002
    New England
    wrong
     
  8. Doctor Stamen

    Doctor Stamen New Member

    Nov 14, 2001
    In a bag with a cat.
    As said on the satellite music channel Q, she seems to be the 'Fisher-Price Alanis Morrisette'. I don't like her music from what little I've heard of it, she seems to be another angst-ridden teeny skater type who hang around in many town centres wearing over-sized trousers and Linkin Park hoodies. Give me Skunk Anansie over her any day.

    And she's Canadian, so it's inevitable she's not going to be very good.
     
  9. Footix

    Footix Member

    Dec 11, 1998
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    I've heard her real name is April Levine.
     
  10. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    A load of crap .
     
  11. jmh30

    jmh30 New Member

    Apr 15, 2002
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    That was insightful. :rolleyes:
     
  12. NorthGoalGang

    NorthGoalGang Member

    Feb 16, 2001
    Coventry, CT
    If you think that anything in the Top 10 isn't manufactured, you live in a dream world.
     
  13. FulhamRev

    FulhamRev Member

    Nov 1, 2000
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    I hate her....but I'd still bang her
     
  14. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    Oh, you got me good SportBoy!

    Can't you just see my face flush with embarassment? Or the drool of shame as it drips off my chin?
    My pommes frites are drowning in my tears of agony! I'm shaking with fear, in fear of the next SportBoy attack of towering wit and intelligence!
    Oh, how will I ever live this down? Somone save me from this emotional abyss, for SportBoy said "wrong"!
     
  15. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    I fixed ya post.
     
  16. Footix

    Footix Member

    Dec 11, 1998
    Left Of The Dial
    Re: Re: avril lavigne: manufactered or the real deal?

    Like he knows what frites are... ;)
     
  17. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Spot on, Skip.

    SHe's most akin to PInk. Projecting a streak of independence that's probably real, but that's obviously co-opted by the record company.

    WHen you ask if something is manufactured, one of the big questions is whether the lyrics are reflective of the performer's worldview or clacluated to reflect his/her fans' worldview. I would say that Pink and Lavigne are both in the middle of the scale, but skewed slightly toward their own world view. The problem is that their own personalities appear to be so frighteningly generalized and shallow that it's difficult to tell. IT's not that they're not being true to themselves. IT's that their true selves have been so thoroughly co-opted by the consumer culture that thier honest attempts to reflect their own sentiments turn out to be simulacrums of corporate thought. This is something that we haven't dealt with, and it's scary as hell, if you ask me. .

    Not totally manufactured, but far from the real deal.
     
  18. wcgcapone

    wcgcapone Member

    Feb 6, 2001
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    Blondie=Gwen=Pink=Avril

    Q: What do these things all have in common?







    A: They try to look punk, but they're not.
     
  19. Michael K.

    Michael K. Member

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  20. wcgcapone

    wcgcapone Member

    Feb 6, 2001
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    I got bored at the 5th paragraph.
     
  21. Michael K.

    Michael K. Member

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    aha...it is kinda long. you get the idea after about 200 words where it's going.
     
  22. wcgcapone

    wcgcapone Member

    Feb 6, 2001
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    Yeah, it was going NOWHERE, where was it goin'?

    NOWHERE.
    Sorry had the urge to add a Boondocks Saints quote.
     
  23. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    FWIW, Blondie were punk before they came across a producer who realized they could sell a whole lotta vinyl with if they'd just put their songs to a disco beat.
     
  24. minorthreat

    minorthreat Member

    Jan 1, 2001
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    If they were anything BUT punk, they wouldn't have lasted as long at CBGB as they did. Hell, they wouldn't have lasted a second.

    Well, Television and Talking Heads weren't punk, per se, but that's an entirely different story.
     
  25. Unorthodox Yank

    Feb 27, 2001
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    complicated is on the radio in my computer class now.

    I hadnt heard it in a while, and i remember how much i really hate it.

    ugh.
     

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