Australia vs Chile - June 13, 2014 - Cuiabá [R]

He also took part in the second goal, passively, dragging defenders to cover him, allowing Valdivia to be left alone.

 

I know, but he's more lively than what he did today.

 

Brazil is Chile's bugaboo team. I don't think Chile has ever beaten them. I doubt they would beat them in this tournament either. Doesn't mean much unless they do meet. Even great teams have nemesis teams that always have the advantage over them... Is Germany crap because they cannot beat Italy under any competitive circumstances?
Chile is not great but they are very good.

 

Every single time Australia went at Chile it came as the form of a counter strike from a position where 8 Australian players were defending.

It looked like Australia came out because of how many times they were able to counter due to Chile basically gifting the ball to Australia everytime they attacked. Instead of holding possession with backpasses.

Few other teams will do that because it's a risky strategy.

Also lol comparing Chile in the Copa America years ago under another Coach to this Chile under Sampaoli.

You could say Colombia is overrated because they lost to Peru in that same Copa America.

Learn a little something about the South American sides research them. The stuff we are talking about is not coming from a position of ignorance.

 

We've beaten Brazil some very few times in the past, but most of the times they beat us by big scores.
Our biggest victory over them came in the 1987 Copa America played in Argentina, where we defeated them by 4-0 and eliminated them from advancing to the semis.
Our best recent result against Brazil, was the 2-2 draw played last year in Belo Horizonte, which would be the same stadium where we would face them this WC, if we end as second and they as first respectfully in each of our groups.

 

Just to point something out.

If Spain ties or loses against Chile they are out of the World Cup.

Netherlands plays against Australia if they win they assure their spot in the next round of the World Cup, their goal differential would make it very hard for anyone to drop them down to 2nd. It would take Spain beating Australia and Chile by 5 goals + the goals Netherlands scores against Australia. Which is pretty hard.

Logically Netherlands is left in a position in their final match against Chile, irregardless if Spain beats Chile, to where they can win and still go through in the first place. It would be advantageous given the nature of the tourney (fitness is the real killer, giving your players rest instead of playing can be the difference between a win and a loss once we get to the knockout stage) to play a backup squad.

If Chile were to beat Holland they would only need to beat them by more goals than the amount of goals Spain scores again Australia and them to go forward in second place.

An if Holland really want to get back at Spain for 2010 they can arrange for that because it causes zero harm for them.

The challenges Spain face are daunting.

 

Chile are good enough to be in the last 8 and with some luck to the final 4

 

Fake Asians? That's pretty funny!

You don't have to patronise us, Bud.

 

Dont exaggerate. It seemed like you watched an entirely different match.
In 2nd half Australia increasingly asserted itself and imposed themselves on Chilean defence. Even dominating the game in a certain period of 2nd half.

 

Australia handled themselves better then I thought they would gutty performance especially after that disaster of 13 minutes. Chile attack is impressive but their defense is really suspect they beat an inferior team but they left way too much space open for Australia. Holland or an angry Spain will take advantage of that and hurt them for those mistakes. I like Chile style.

 

That save to Bresciano's attempt didn't have anything of "luck" in it, as the one issue that allows us to asume risks, is that despite not being so strong at defense, we have great goalkeepers, who can frustrate opponents attempts at any time just by doing what they have always been good at it, which is doing their job. Bravo, is no newbie in world football and the saves he performs, is not something of just one day, as he does it all the time. Not only against players of the level of Bresciano, but also against the best forwards in the world. "Luck" had no part in this, but his own quality or level, allows him to shine with lights of his own. Oh yes, and if he is not available, we also have Herrera, whom also is considered among the top goalkeepers in Conmebol, where to many neutral observers, he is considered even better goalkeeper than Bravo. And after both Bravo and Herrera, there is a whole load of excellent goalkeepers whom aren't very far from the level exhibited by our 2 best goalkeepers. Goalkeeping, isn't an issue, where we (Chile), could be considered as being weak.

Maybe if we didn't have goalkeepers of the level that we have, Chile wouldn't play asuming risks at all of the time, but as we do, we are in position to afford taking that risk.

 

As another issue, Chile plays possession, creating plenty of chances. Not dull, boring tiki-taka.

If Chile didn't score more goals against Australia, it is because Australia packs very well around their goal zone when it gets to defending, which I believe, will not make it easy on none of the teams that they will face this WC. It's hard for me to see them lose by bigger scores than those we achieved against them. It wouldn't surprise me, seeing them take points from either Netherlands or Spain.

 

Did Biesa instilled that approach or was it there before? The WC98 side also was very direct, taking the ball as fast as possible to Salas and Zamorano.

 

As how world football was evolving to, at the time, I'd say that this mindless attacking style, came basicly through Bielsa (a "loco" was required to attempt playing this style to prove it is possible to asume taking risks), who did the same thing with Argentina, with whom he crashed at 2002 WC. Before he landed in our country, Chile played the same as most teams in the world do, putting more emphasis in protecting the back than asuming more protagonism in its games.

Chile in 1998, were basicly a defending team and the only reason we scored lots of goal is because in Zamorano and Salas, we had 2 of the best forwards in the world, both playing at their prime. As both great forwards retired, Chile almost disappeared, and only came back, thanks to Bielsa.

 

Actually, I misread your post.

I thought you were saying that we only won through "luck" (I got to admit that some sort of language barrier took place inside my head ), and didn't realize you were actually wishing luck to our team, instead.
Sorry for my misinterpretation and thanks for the good wishes.

I also wish the best for your team, and also believe that despite the recent defeat, as it is attempting a new begining with lots of new faces in the team, they could still surprise more than someone in what is left of this WC. And besides to help your team, you still got Cahill at his best, whom is like a "winged monster" (he doesn't jump, although he makes everybody believe he is, he actually lift-offs and flies to head the balls and wins almost all of them in the air).

 

It's pretty much all been said. Brave effort from the Socceroos...........but brave doesn't get you awarded any points and as Ange said, "this is a game where a result got away from us".
Aussies lost the game in the first 15 minutes while still getting the stars out of their eyes but with 5-6 players having less than 10 International Caps then stage fight was always a strong possibility. Credit to Chile for capitalising as a good team should. They did seem to ease back a bit after expecting the goals to continue just as easily and that nearly came at their peril.

Cahill's goal brought the match back to life and he probably should have had another goal about 2 minutes later, but a not so good shot straight at the keeper. Wouldn't a 2-2 half time score have made for a cracker of a game?!

Great save to deny Bresciano's great shot early in the second half and if Cahill had the diving skills of Sanchez we would definately have had a PK when he was held back from making a clear header but that's not our style, pity Sanchez needs to play that way to be successful.
I have the impression Chile can play better and are a good chance of going on to the next stage. Tough one up next with an embarrassed Spain wanting to regain face. Good luck with the rest of your tournament, Chile.

 

What I liked about the Aussie team was their quickness and their ability to shift gears from offense to defense on a dime, may have something to do with the fact that they're pretty young. Some of the more.....experienced......squads can be a little ponderous in that regard. What they have in common with the US in regards to soccer is that this is neither a particularly popular sport nor a second religion to them, which it is in most of the other countries.

 

what are the suckeroos so proud about?

chile sucked to be honest, only reason the match was close

 

Ignore him, he always brings everyone down.