Auf geht's, Jungs: German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. V

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    1BL
    -on 04 W Gruda


    -04 CB Collins plays back to back 1BL caps with Frankfurt as 25 min sub. Likely will play another XI towards end of season one would assume.



    2BL
    -04 CF Topp assisted the winner in 2-0 W for S04.
    https://streamin.me/v/68076999
     
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  2. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    05 AM/W Wanner (on loan) scores his 5th of season in 2BL and important goal in comeback win vs Pauli who drop to 2nd after today's L.
     
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  3. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    04 W Kade scored his 4th and bagged in assist in current 2-0 lead for Swiss 1st Basel.

    its always weird to see ex Hertha players. Looking at AM/W
    -02 AM Samardzic (poached by Serbia) is at 4 goals in Serie A
    -04 W Kade is at 4 goals in Swiss 1st
    -05 AM/W Popp is at 5 2BL caps since Winter transfer to 2BL Furth
    -06 AM Dardai is moving to 1BL Wolfsburg in Summer

    tons of clubs want to poach 05 AM/W Maza who is doing very well since comeback from long term injury. How long until 02 W Winkler ends up in 1BL? And they still have plenty in Academy, LOL. The next one they are propping up is 06 AM/W Gottschalk.
     
  4. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Mainz 05 in the relegation battle: A winger gives wings: Brajan Gruda is the symbolic figure of the resurrection under the new Mainz coach Bo Henriksen.

    19-year-old Brajan Gruda represents the young group at Bundesliga football club Mainz 05, which is increasingly successful in resisting the threat of relegation. Wounded if necessary.

    Anyone who looks at Brajan Gruda's face will still notice the scar next to his nose. Somehow it suits a mischievous fun footballer, but the FSV Mainz 05 professional would of course have been happy to do without the distinctive identifying mark. It has now been almost two months since a teammate's cleats sliced open the right side of his face during a final training session. The young guy collapsed on that Friday in February, covered in blood, and the ambulance rushed up. When board member Christian Heidel looked, the boss from Bruchweg clapped his hands over his head. "I thought he wouldn't play football for the next ten weeks."

    That same evening, however, Gruda, 19, was supposed to signal that he could play in the home game against FC Augsburg (1-0). Heidel found it a “borderline decision,” especially since the injured player ignored the advice of a plastic surgeon to at least wear a protective mask - he threw it away after a few minutes. The episode at the first home game under coach Bo Henriksen, who was hired as a savior on matchday 22, reveals a lot about the attitude of the talent from his own club. This daredevil has now become the symbolic figure of the resurrection under the Danish whipper.

    His skill and bravery are always a bargaining chip in the relegation battle. In the 4-1 gala against TSG Hoffenheim, Gruda even managed a header goal to make it 3-1 in the 63rd minute. With all his determination, the 1.78 meter man threw himself into the air to maneuver the ball over the line. Because Jonathan Burkardt (47th minute), Philipp Mwene (51st) and, for the first time, striker Karim Onisiwo (88th) also scored, there was high spirits in the arena at Europaplatz.

    “The coach changed minds with his energy,” says sports director Martin Schmidt
    The Mainz team put on such convincing performances that staying in the league seems realistic even without relegation. Even Martin Schmidt hardly seems to recognize this ensemble that Henriksen woke up. “The team performs with self-confidence, we knew for a long time that they could play football,” said the sports director after the game. "The coach changed minds with his energy." The first person to benefit from this is the instinctive footballer Gruda, who can now point to his three goals and two assists when accused of a lack of effectiveness.

    No other relegation candidate combines such a high individual offensive class: When Nadiem Amiri, Jae-Sung Lee, Gruda and Burkardt switch to winning the ball, a lot of it comes from intuition. "The coach told me that I should run and work a lot defensively. And that I can then do whatever I want up front. He believes in me, and I should 'believe' too!" says Gruda. His low center of gravity, his excellent handling of the ball and his unpredictable movements in the Pierre Littbarski style make it difficult for opponents to even begin to anticipate the feints. Henriksen recently raved about the highly talented U21 national player: "If he cracks the code to make the right decisions in front of the goal, he will be a world-class footballer."

    Bayern's Thomas Müller swapped the number 43 jersey after a lesson for Mainz in Munich (1:8). The German-Albanian, who comes from a football-loving family - father Bujar was a former professional in Albania - is perhaps already Mainz's best Investment. It is very likely that the talent will be ensnared by top clubs in the summer. Gruda, who was born in Speyer and initially trained at Karlsruher SC, proves once again that skilled youth work at this location pays off twice or threefold. Gruda comes from the Mainz age group that won the German championship title with the U19 juniors last year. The successors recently caused a stir again in the Youth League. And if Nelson Weiper hadn't been hit by bad luck with injuries, perhaps another youngster would have taken off long ago. In only a few clubs is the permeability to the professional sector as great as in Mainz. This is one of the reasons why there are quite a few who want this functioning training company to continue to be part of the first league.
    https://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/m...er&utm_medium=twitterbot&utm_campaign=6550829
     
  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    RL (just 3 mention only)
    -02 CF M.Muller bagged his 10th of season for Mainz II. Made his 1BL/pro debut this season too. Would assume will go pro next season wherever that may lead. Hopefully more 2BL-1st Abroad than 3rd Liga.

    -04 W Meisel is FINALLY allowed to play for realz at S04 II.
    4 goals in past 4 matches
    2 back to back XIs aka his 1st XI of whole season=3 goals in 2 games, scoring in 2/2

    not sure why he was bencher ALL season. Never made any sense. Like he was a starter in U19 for S04, usually looked good/interesting and then come RL/adult barely any chances. He even trained/friendlies with 1st team a lot in past year too.

    Never understood how player X or Y gets a lot of 1st chances but then come II they are ignored, LOL, these clubs aren't even remotely in synch between 1st teams vs RL/II........badly run clubs. Nothing beats players sign pro contract (not talking about Meisel as he has no pro contract but this paragraph is general sense) but then barely used in II or player signs pro contract but then don't go anywhere near the 1st teams.....all nonesensical.

    -04 CF Obiogumu also FINALLY breakingthrough for realz at Hoffenheim II. Brokethrough XI for realz in March 2024.

    4 goals and 1 assist in past 4 matches
    3 goals and 1 assist in past 2 matches, 2/2 XI, productive in 2/2

    another that made 0 sense as to why was barely used all season. Well at least he's ahead of Belgian 04 CF Camara, Spanish 04 CF Mulele and Frenchie 04 CF Mokwa, LOL. From our POV, none makes a difference as 06 CF Moerstedt is the one we want from Hoffenheim and he's THE one that will jump directly to the 1st team. But still good to see Obiogumu be ahead of the foreign competition and if he continues like this will end up being a pro player somewhere.


    seriously 04 W Meisel+04 CF Obiogumu are 2 players who likely would have bagged double digits in RL this season if were used properly throughout whole season instead of usage that started in March-April.........
     
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  7. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    02 GK Atubolu kept his 9th clean sheet of season in 1BL in 1-0 W. One more away from double. The only GK with more clean sheets in 1BL is the likely champions Bayer's #1.

    while 03 CB Riedel made his comeback XI for 1BL Darmstadt in return from injury.
     
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  8. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    with Bayer champs will be curious to see if that clubs integrates......with title race over when will see Bayern integrate???

    also Gladbach had 4 players who made matchday squad vs Dortmund with 3/4 were XI all get major injuries....yikes. Jordan, Lainer, Honorat and Ngoumou. Some looking like out for season too.

    will be curious to see who will get chance to emerge due to this state of affairs. 4 open spots is a LOT too. Sadly 05 RB Walde looking like out for season so can't take advantage.
     
  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    05 AM/W Sturm of Freiburg II in 3rd Liga played his 2nd XI of season and already at 3 goals in 3rd Liga. Scored in 1-1 D today.

    with Freiburg II going down to RL due to stupidity on their part and how they were playing would like to see 03 GK Sauter, 03 RB/DM Fahrner, 05 M Marino, 04 AM/W Baur, 05 AM/W Sturm all either jump to 1st team or go on loan or perm out to 2BL-1st Abroad level. Playing RL=stupid waste of time and regression worthy over dev.
     
  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -03 CB Duah does Summer transfer to 3rd Liga Dynamo. Club is 2BL promotion candidate.


    -04 AM/W Marie is linked with transfer to 2BL EB......a club that are 3rd Liga relegation candidates.
     
  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    GK updates
    -on 03 GK Urbig #1 to 2BL Furth on loan. He's more than shotstopper, pretty good with his feet and distribution of ball too.


    -on 03 GK Ernst #1 of 2BL Hertha. Talking about his comeback game on Friday from injury where he kept clean sheet.
    https://www.kicker.de/irgendwann-hat-es-mich-genervt-ernst-froh-ueber-comeback-1014539/artikel#omrss

    -on 02 GK Atubolu #1 of 1BL Freiburg. Still needs to improve his decision making.




    -on 04 GK Backhaus #1 to Eredivisie Volendam on loan.




    -on 05 GK Seimen future 1BL Stuttgart #1. Would guess that since Nubel is on loan for another 2 years that he'll become 1BL #1 in Summer 2026. If they want to loan him out, they should move quickly and loan him out 2 years to 2BL Furth to replace 03 GK Urbig!!!!


    Seimen wants to play professional football
    According to Sky information, Seimen would like to assert himself at VfB in the long term. The clear plan is also to play professional football next season in order to advance his development as best as possible. At VfB this would only be possible if the second team was promoted to the 3rd league. The wish of everyone involved is therefore a loan to a club where Seimen is the regular goalkeeper. Finding this club will be the next big task for sports director Fabian Wohlgemuth.

    VfB definitely wants to avoid a situation like 2011: Back then, talented Bernd Leno couldn't get past regular goalkeeper Sven Ulreich. Leno was then loaned out to Bayer Leverkusen and later sold. There he developed into a regular goalkeeper and German national goalkeeper. Things are supposed to be different with Dennis Seimen. Because the plan within VfB is clear: in the long term, Dennis Seimen should become the new number one.
    https://sport.sky.de/transfer/news/...-und-der-plan-mit-torwarttalent-dennis-seimen


    so far 02-onwards GKs
    -1BL=02-Atubolu (#1), 03-Noll (semi-bench GK)
    -2BL=03-Urbig (on loan #1), 03-Ernst (#1), 03-Kruth (bench GK), 03-Schulz (semi-bench GK), 03-Hagemoser (semi-Bench GK), 04-Weiss (bench GK, 3 career XIs), 04-Kwasigroch (semi-bench, 1 XI this season)
    -1st Abroad=04-Backhaus (on loan #1 in Eredivisie), 04-Reitmeier (looks to more recently have made himself bench GK in Eredivisie)

    -3rd Liga=02-Gebhardt (#1 to 2BL Promotion candidates, was also kicker XI for weekend), 02-Schreiber (on loan, likely going upwards in Summer after impressing a lot in DFB Cup historic run), 03-Krumrey (Austrian 2nd #1, made Salzburg bench more regularly in recent. Needs to go higher in Summer), 03-Dumrath (#1 in Swiss 3rd division and #3 for Swiss 1st, made bunch of bench for 1st team), 03-Sauter (#1), 03-P.Schulze (#1 on Winter loan), 03-Schenk (on loan has 8 XIs, club gave #1 back to older guy who is retiring in Summer but want to reloan him next season and make him #1.....so dumb who cares if other guy is retiring....), 03-Ostrzinski (has 7 XIs, should become #1 next season when Lotka bails from Dortmund), 04-Stein (on Winter loan, looks to have recently made himself #1), 06-Heide (played 1 XI this season, should be #1 soon)
     
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  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    update on 05 CF Weiper, he made his comeback from injury playing in RL for Mainz II where he almost scored brace. This is a CF that almost always not far from scoring LOL.

    this is from Mainz 1st team coach
    “There is still room for improvement. Nevertheless, you can see the goal threat he can pose because he looked for depth. You want a striker like that as a coach. It is logical that he still has problems with interaction and recognizing situations. He'll work on that again through training and the next games." So Weiper's commitment shouldn't be a flash in the pan.
     
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  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    find it interesting that players from RL like 03 CF Schmidt, 02 AM Schmahl, 02 W Kelati, 04 CF J.Winter are all going to 1BL-2BL when they are only at 7-11 goals in RL.

    whereas players like 02 CF Harres (19 goals and leading scorer of RL Sudwest), 02 W Futkeu (15 goals and pro debut in DFB Cup for 1BL Frankfurt), 02 CF Galjan (16 goals, would be pro ages ago if not for injury, already 3 2BL caps from past. Lagging only behind Harres in RL Sudwest too), 02 W Fehler (18 goals), 04 CF Sanne (18 goals, also has 1 2BL goal in 2 caps too), 04 AM/W Paula (13 goals, has made few 1BL Stuttgart bench, tons of clubs want him).....

    6 players destroying RL and still 0 indication about their future.

    plenty more are in that 7-11 goals region too. Curious to see how many go upwards from ALL RL in Summer.
     
  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -update on 02 M Breithaupt of 1BL Augsburg.....went from close to bailing in Winter to now close to full breakthrough!!!!

    At the press conference on Wednesday, coach Jess Thorup praised the performance of the 22-year-old, who came on as a substitute for Jakić early on against Hoffenheim. “He did very well. “I’m happy that Tim played almost two 90-minute games,” said Thorup. And important, especially for the player: “Tim was able to show us that he can keep up in the Bundesliga.”

    Since loan player Jakić is now on the verge of returning to the starting line-up for the upcoming Bundesliga game against his current parent club Eintracht Frankfurt (Friday, 8:30 p.m.) after recovering from Achilles tendon problems, Breithaupt will probably return to the substitutes' bench. However, further use cannot be ruled out.

    Thorup still sees room for improvement at Breithaupt
    Breithaupt is still one step away from establishing himself in the FCA starting eleven. But the beginning has been made, as Thorup notes. “As a young player you can learn a lot on the pitch, but once you're on the pitch you know exactly what it's about and what the next step is. Tim has done a lot of good things, but of course there are always things he can improve on.”

    -1BL Gladbach are interested in 2BL Kiel (1BL promotion candidates)'s 04 W/CF Niehoff who has 1 goal and 1 assist in 4 2BL caps and 8 goals and 9 assists in RL.
    https://www.liga-zwei.de/holstein-kiel-gladbach-wirbt-auch-um-niklas-niehoff/

    -from the Niehoff article on 04 LB Rothe.
    If Kiel actually plays first-class next season, there would probably be a better chance of being able to keep Tom Rothe, who is on loan from Borussia Dortmund, at least for another year.


    would say that it might be for best for him to go reloan to Kiel next season. At least if they go up to 1BL he'll be XI all season vs Dortmund where he's likely to be more often on bench or alternate option. For sake of his dev and playing time that needs to be prioritized.
     
  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    14 tweet scouting on 06 CB Dal


    seems interesting to see dev of the U17 Euro+U17 WC CBs

    -Jeltsch fully brokethrough 2BL FCN fixed XI
    -Dal made couple of bench for 1BL Mainz.....seems to be closing in on debut but only after Mainz secures safety. Highly rated by club. Him and 05 DM/CB Schulz also have pro contracts and Mainz=club who only integrate pro contract players too.
    -Odogu putting pressure on 1BL Wolfsburg to integrate him. Has made 1st team bench and attracting interest from bigger clubs
    -Herwerth recently made his RL/adult/XI debut all in 1 for Stuttgart II where he was seen as one of the winners along with 05 GK Seimen of that match. Also had pro contract precursor and has trained a lot with 1st team, even getting praised by Hoeness. Curious to see if Stuttgart fully cement CL spot will they integrate youth in whatever 1BL matches remains?

    so far 1/4=25% have already done so. And 3/4=75% closing in on breakthrough.
     
  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    05 CF Pejcinovic
    -22 goals and 2 assists in 15 Wolfsburg U19 games
    -3 goals and 1 assists in 3 DFB Junioren Cup games
    -9 goals and 4 assists in 9 Germany U19 games....with B/C team ended up U19 Euro Qualifiers top scorer too!!!!
    -Total=34 goals and 7 assists in 27 matches this season

    has 3 1BL caps this season too, knocking door for more but since Wolfsburg U19 are contenders for U19 championship will likely be screwed over for pointless youth footy.





    U19 goal debut for Hensel
    Six-pack: VfL storm jewel Pejcinovic and his crazy weekend
    Unstoppable: Dzenan Pejcinovic scored a six-pack in VfL's U19s' 9-0 win against Hansa Rostock at the weekend.

    Wolfsburg. If only the weakening VfL professionals also had a goalscorer like that...: Dzenan Pejcinovic not only scored six goals in the U19's 9-0 shooting festival in the Bundesliga against Hansa Rostock at the weekend, but he did so in a spectacular way and manner met. A buttery-soft cross from the right side volleyed the Stumjewel into the corner at the second post. The 19-year-old leads the top scorers list in the North/Northeast relay by a large margin; the U19 national player has scored 22 goals in 15 games.
    https://www.waz-online.de/sport/reg...ns-wochenende-NRG4HPOL75G5HK3CEU4ML5JDD4.html


    from Argentinian Sports Journalist,
    Great scoring season for Dženan Pejčinović (19|) with the #Wolfsburg youth team.

    I have seen few forwards with that class in the last move. Left-footed, good duelist in the air, skilled and a team player. He activates his scoring instinct when he steps into the opponent's box.
     
  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    LOL I'm confused to why soooooooooooooooooooooooo many next gen German CFs get so much hype even from non-Germans when its known fact we have 0 CFs!!!!!!:thumbsup:

    also there is no wave of next gen CFs that is made up BS, doesn't matter if a dozen and more CFs getting loads of hype. That doesn't constitute of wave!!!!:whistling: Nor does reality that youth CFs are breakingthrough pros faster than ever and knocking hard on door for even more to breakthrough constitute a wave!!!!;) Nothing but coincident timing!!!!:D
     
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  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    on 05 W Balde and 07 CF Stange, both training with 2BL HSV 1st team. Likely we won't see any debuts for either until its 100% confirmed that HSV won't make promotion playoff. Stange has gotten loads of praise by both Walter and now Baumgart and does seem pretty close to debut.


    Fabio Balde and Otto Stange are two talented young talents
     
  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    WTF IS THIS SHIT...............can DFB just ban this type of shit???

    Hertha Berlin is a FACTORY of dev and due to this, always mass poaching or poaching attempts by loser German clubs who can't dev themselves.

    the next batch.
    BILD learned: Bayern, RB Leipzig and VfL Wolfsburg have already snapped up four Berlin talents for the new 2024/25 season!
    At the same time, the Berliners were able to successfully fend off further attacks from FC Bayern, Borussia Dortmund and other top clubs and to retain four highly sought-after super talents for the long term, whom the club absolutely wanted to keep for the future!

    Who is leaving Hertha?
    ► Bayern Munich grabs defender Cassiano Kiala! Big, fast, strong in tackles. A defensive specialist with good technique and a lot of calm on the ball. If Bayern beckons, Hertha can't keep up. BILD knows: The whole family is moving to Munich.
    ► Wolfsburg is immediately bringing in an offensive duo: midfielder Isaiah Seretis and striker Elisee Blessing (most recently used in the U16 team at Hertha) are moving to the financially strong Wolves, who recently poached Hertha's Bence Dardai (18) as a summer signing for free.
    ► RB Leipzig has secured the services of striker Israel Ogette for the next few years.

    Who has been committed to Hertha long-term?
    ► Kennet Eichhorn is rated internally along with Kiala as the greatest talent of the 2009 vintage. A midfielder who outshines everyone on the pitch both defensively and offensively. He was also voted best player of the tournament at the Pape Cup. Has already played for Hertha's U17 team this season. Borussia Dortmund wanted him, Bayern's scouts were also interested. But Eichhorn decided on the Berlin route.
    ► With Daniel Mrohs and Ali Salman, two midfield aces were retained until 2027 and were on the lists of various scouts and are expected to achieve great things in the future.
    ► Striker Mayson Grothe (currently injured after a DFB course) was also courted by various Bundesliga clubs. He also chose Berlin, where the penetration of young players into the professional team is much higher than elsewhere.
    https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/...a95f7b1?t_ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
     
  21. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    05 CF Dudock moves to OL/5th division club Kickers Emden who are getting promoted to RL in Summer. Wonder why not stay at Bremen who's II should also get promoted to RL in Summer.


    so far the 05 CFs looking like
    -Pejcinovic, Weiper, Torsiello=all brokethrough 1BL or should do so soon
    -Mahmoud=doesn't seem that far off from breakingthrough 1BL Bochum. One would think if Bochum goes that then he's even more likely to breakthrough next season. With Bochum II being revived for next season, he's even more likely to stay at club.
    -El Mala=has pro contract with 3rd Liga VK.
    -Kramer=made his adult/RL debut over weekend for 3rd Liga Promotion candidates Meppen.

    the rest no word on their future. Numerous ones started to play RL so more wait and see.
     
  22. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -interesting statements by 1BL Bayer's Rolfes.

    Leverkusen: Rolfes wants to build on talent
    In the future, sports director Simon Rolfes at Bayer Leverkusen wants to keep an eye on his own youth players. The newly crowned German champion tells the 'kicker': "You won't be able to constantly invest in ready-made players." They expect "a boost" from the current U17 squad in particular. Up to ten youth players from the team are expected to make the jump to the professionals.

    In order to make the transition to the professionals smoother for homegrown players in the future, Bayer is looking for suitable loan clubs. According to Rolfes, the most important thing here is: “Who is the trainer there? Which game idea is being pursued? And how does the club work?” It's quite possible that all of Bayer's boys will have to prove themselves at another club in the future before they get a chance at the BayArena.
    https://www.fussballtransfers.com/a7061609487678433438-leverkusen-rolfes-will-auf-talente-bauen

    although this proves to why no II team=STUPID AS ******** SHIT. LOL so potential for loan armies is usually what happens. And less we forget that this clown club screwed over 04 AM Aourir keeping him at club ALL season doing nothing but train with 1 scrap min cap.......

    10 youth players from current U17 squad???
    07 CF Izekor, 07 AM/W Onyeka, 07 GK Schlich, 07 M Mensah, 07 M Buono, 08 CB Hawighorst, 07 W Culbreath, 08 AM/W Mensah, 07 CB Pohl............there is also poached by Bosnia Alajbegovic+Ukrainian Stepanov.

    as of now Izekor+Onyeka+Schlich are XIs in Bayer U19 playing vs older players. So all 3 moved up awhile ago.

    from Bayern U19, 05 CB Munz+05 LB Bauerle are the ones who look closest but do they sign pro contract and get loaned or bail perm???


    -LOL on 1BL Hoffenheim. The club still has LOADS of talents that need full integration!!!
    Keeping calm and yet not losing focus is what managers are asked to do when it comes to things like this, rather than young people - but of all people like Maxi Beier, Umut Tohumcu or Tim Drexler, they have recently appeared more stable in complicated phases than the supposed leading figures.
    https://www.kicker.de/matarazzo-spricht-von-keiner-angenehmen-woche-1016766/artikel#twfeed

    -03 W Widmann looks on verge of breakingthrough 2BL Magdeburg.
    https://www.liga-zwei.de/1-fc-magdeburg-ueberrascht-christian-titz-mit-elisio-widmann/

    -confirmed, 04 AM/W Marie moves to 2BL EB in Summer........club is still fighting relegation battle, so unknown if this will be for 2BL or 3rd Liga, looking like close battle.
     
  23. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    German footy is some of the dumbest and most boring crap you'll see when it comes to youth dev and chances.

    interesting to see, on 1BL Stuttgart
    "Employees from other youth departments all over Germany have made this comparison between Ulrich and Wirtz, and that's why I'm taking up this comparison. By the way, these employees from other clubs are very surprised today that none of Ulrich's year group has made it into the professional team, while talents who were expected to make the leap, but were placed under Ulrich, have all already made it to the professional level .

    Seimen, Ulrich and Co were already on the scout lists for the U16 Germany and Europe. The situation with our talents is tense, especially after January, and is being followed very closely by many clubs in Germany and Europe. Some clubs sense a huge opportunity to attract top talent here.

    ... what would be if Ulrich had been given the chance to play in the Bundesliga at the age of 17. Just like Wirtz, he supported a youth team. Like Wirtz, he stood out from all the great talents who were shown to be able to do it.

    And yes...,
    here again the note, the following is my opinion and does not have to be viewed exactly the same way...

    as someone who saw Wirtz live several times as a 17 year old and also had an Ulrich, I say, Ulrich had what it took to play in the Bundesliga as a 17-year-old. And if you had had that courage back then, at the time of his injury we would have been talking about someone who would have been very close to being a regular player in the professionals and not now about a 19-year-old Ulrich who has to be given out in order to get match practice.

    Because if you ask me, the last time I saw such a talented player in our youth was Werner. Incidentally, he also made his Bundesliga debut at the age of 17 and played a 9-scorer season in a team that didn't work as well as Leverkusen did when Wirtz made his debut.

    But yes, we can stop making comparisons, we can also stop making our assessments of players and talents, we can also continue to downplay our talents...

    In the end, none of us can do anything about whether and where someone makes a breakthrough. There is definitely some frustration/disappointment for me, as I talk to the boys from time to time and notice their disappointment. And after January I'm starting to run out of arguments like, “be patient,” “give yourself time,” “your chance will come.”



    German footy is FULL of shit like this. Clubs bitch for years and years about where are top talents but once they get them they do NOTHING with them.

    Stuttgart continues to NOT be serious on this topic. In past they gave relegation battle as excuse to do 0 integration now its frick youth/integration we are fighting CL spot battles (see this is why I want 1BL to get 5 CL spots to close the topic NOW).

    the January bit is about this dumbass club brought in Dahoud in Winter instead of promoting their own youth aka blocking their youth for irrelevant players. Also at that time they dumped the youth who were close to 1st back to II.

    LMAO that in 2024, the club was like there is no better time than now to breakthrough the 1st team and what happened, 0 chances in that period, LULZ. They are NOT a serious club and just lip service.

    always curious when one sees clubs like Barcelona who are a superior and bigger club to Stuttgart integrate more youth than the German club ever does these days, LOL. Its same almost all over 1BL, shit TON of excuses TO NOT play young players and way too much ********ing fixation with irrelevant shit like youth trophies, LOL. Every club should make it a thing to integrate their top talents.

    every ex player and coaches have ALL said youth trophies=pointless....how many players breakthrough the 1st team is real sign of YOUTH SUCCESS.

    recently Hoeness got triggered when the media asked him why not play 05 GK Seimen in XI when Nubel is out and he went on rant about Seimen is NOT #2 GK so why should he play and blablabla shit that translates to "I'm not playing a newb during CL spot fights......although I rate said newb very highly and see him as future #1 down the line." Where is the trust???? This is why GKs making #1 in 1BL is VERY VERY Hard these days, 0 trust from every coach. We got lucky that Freiburg II was in 3rd Liga+the Dutch GK bailed when he did otherwise no Atubolu as #1. This same clown club want to potentially loan Seimen out next season. Do they know that he'll have an easier time finding a good loan if you play him in a couple of XI......lets hope last 2 games of season he plays XI for Stuttgart to attract more interest for better loan in Summer.

    the underlined is something we are already seeing as tons of clubs want to poach 04 AM/W Paula while Stuttgart are doing nothing with him and likely to lose him.....

    always akward when a club says they rate sooo many of their own youth give out so many pro contracts but then have ZERO planning for any of them and no real integration and all they do is play back up role.

    so when Stuttgart qualifies for CL next season will this clown club even bother with integration or will they go with the usual. We NEED TRANSFERS to compete in CL and triple competition thus blocking their youth even more.......

    while they have no real interest in their own youth, LOL when tons of clubs want to pounce. You see that a lot in German footy. A lot of times one's own club is WORST place to be at. Other clubs when they try to lure a player that isn't theirs they make huge efforst to lure said player vs own club that has half-assed approach, half-assed care, half-assed interest and drift towards indifference.

    I'm curious to see what clowns at Stuttgart do. If they cement CL spot early, use the remaining matches to integrate your own youth. Play 05 GK Seimen, 05 LB Azevedo, 06 CB Herwerth, 05 M Ulrich, 05 M di Benedetto (although he looks injured for season like 05 CB Fritschi), 05 AM/W Raimund etc. Its easier to go full breakthrough next season if previous season some players get couple of XIs vs nothing but super late scrap mins.

    guys like Seimen, Ulrich, di Benedetto everyone thinks talent wise should have 0 problems breakingthrough but Stuttgart ain't making it easy. And all of them might or might not get loan dumping. The old "if we had top talents we would integrate them"......is now more and more "lets dump every top talent on loan as we have no interest to intergrate"......

    Ulrich is already linked with 2BL clubs like Kiel, Paderborn, KSC, Magdeburg etc. Kiel are actually 1BL promotion candidates too. But its unclear if he's gonna go on loan or breakthrough. I hope him and di Benedetto breakthrough directly sans loaning.
     
  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    what's funny is how we seem to getting inversion
    for AGES, 2BL was like ******** any and all youth players vs 1BL we love youth players

    now it seems like 2BL is we love youth players vs 1BL ******** any and all youth players

    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

    I'm glad to see that 2BL is changing its tune and a LOT of people have noticed 2BL changing tune too. What was hurting German footy for long time is how much of a disconnect their was between 1BL-3rd Liga-RL vs 2BL. The Level below 1BL is CRUCIAL and needs to be youth friendly. As issue is that majority of 1BL doesn't give 2 shits about 3rd Liga-RL and it also forced players to go to every level just to reach 1BL because 2BL is more into 3rd Liga than RL, LOL. And 2BL was notorious for making loans overcomplicated as there seemed to be dislike towards 1BL clubs and a lot of them were forcing buying option or bust.

    at least now when we are seeing LOADS of players emerging from 2BL it bodes well as they can only go upwards to 1BL which makes the youth shift better and produce more 1BL players especially since 1BL clubs continue to screw own players.
     

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