Auf geht's, Jungs: German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. V

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    2BL Schalke coach Reis praises 04 W/CF Kabadayi (on loan) and his growing importance.
    https://www.ruhrnachrichten.de/scha...ster-immer-wichtiger-wird-w784095-2000941420/

    NEW AM/W who looking to breakthrough this season in pros
    -1BL=04-Gruda, 05-Opitz, 05-Ibrahimovic (Serie A loan)
    -2BL=02-Kehl, 02-Winkler (also CF), 04-Kabadayi (also CF, loan), 04-Damar (loan), 04-Wagbe, 05-Wanner (loan), 06-Dardai

    this seems to be the new guys so far who are regulars in matchday squads. I think more shall breakthrough during season.
     
  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Double 06 M Ouedraogo update
    1-Was voted 2nd place for Schalke's August player of the month after the GK M.Muller.....so basically best Schalke outfield player....
    2-Update on topic of U17 WC
    The next U17 Junior World Championship will take place in India from November 10th to December 1st. Schalke has mixed feelings about this competition. Because there is a high probability that the German Football Association will want to nominate Assan Ouédraogo.

    The 17-year-old is one of the top performers at the Royal Blues. There is no obligation to release the Blue and Whites, but the German Football Association should do everything in its power to ensure that the best team starts in Indonesia after many tournament disappointments in recent years. However, it has not yet been decided whether Ouédraogo will be there.

    “In exchange with the player”
    “It's still some time until these title fights. But of course we have the issue on our radar and are in discussions with Assan,” said sports director André Hechelmann when asked by this newspaper. First, it must be clarified what the young professional wants. If he doesn't want to forego taking part in the World Cup, Schalke would be in need of an explanation, even if there is no obligation to release him. If the 17-year-old were to play in Indonesia, he would miss up to six second division games. Ouédraogo became U17 European champion with the U17 in the summer.
    https://www.hellwegeranzeiger.de/sc...direktor-andre-hechelmann-w784361-1000889547/

    I hope he doesn't go, missing 6 games is too much better to focus on club. And this one of reasons why we aren't gonna see any Dortmund 2006 with 1st team anytime soon, the U17 WC+YL is reason. So any Dortmund U19 06s could make debut in 2024.
     
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  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -06 CF Ramsak and 07 AM/W Licina with Thomas Muller


    -Update on 03 CF Kastanaras


    -02 W Thielmann extends with 1BL Koln


    -04 M Waschenbach injured with muscle injury......so misses out on chance as others in 1st team also injured...
     
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  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    03 LB Kratzig looks to be making his CL bench debut tomorrow. So far this season he's made every single Bayern matchday squad.....so will he actually end up getting integrated???
     
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  5. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The next Stanisic? Not spectacular at youth level but made good steps once he got near the first team. Bayern don’t have a ton of depth at LB so could get chances.
     
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  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    he was an AM/W at youth level but always injured then retrained to play LB because of mass injuries at Bayern II for LBs, LOL. And he got closer to 1st team than Herold for example ever did.

    still annoying that the more talented Bayern player get loan dumping but lesser ones seem to get chances. This club is ALL over the place for chances. And yeah I presume he gets a few caps then loan dumping at some point.

    LBs looking interesting, this is just from 1BL clubs, ignoring any in 2BL-3rd Liga-1st Abroad.
    -Bayern=03-Kratzig..............06-Hennig (looking like next interesting LB at club)
    -Dortmund=04-Rothe (2BL loan), 06-Kabar...............05-Korzynietz (has potential but doubtful for 1st team)
    -Leipzig=04-Ba (Austrian 1st loan, also RB), 05-Meyer (has trained with 1st team)
    -Gladbach=03-Netz, 04-Ullrich................05-Uwakhonye (has trained/friendlies with 1st)
    -Koln=04-Finkgrafe (pro contract made debut), 05-Wagner (has trained/friendlies with 1st)
    -Heidenheim=04-Jarju (pro contract)
    -Stuttgart=04-Reichardt (close to 1st team also CB), 05-Azevedo (pro contract)
    -Bayer=05-Bauerle (has trained/friendlies with 1st)
    -Wolfsburg=05-Braun (pro contract, has trained/friendlies with 1st)
    -Union=05-Jurschik (has trained/friendlies with 1st and gotten praised, looks injured)
    -Augsburg=04-Zehnter (pro contract, already has couple of pro caps)
    -Hoffenheim=02-John (looks injured), 05-Behrens (looks well liked)
    -Mainz=04-T.Muller (has trained with 1st team), 05-Wiesnet (looks well liked)
    -Darmstadt, Frankfurt, Freiburg (closest is 01-Ezekwem on 2BL loan), Bremen, Bochum=NEIN so far
     
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  7. Dsky

    Dsky Member

    Jul 21, 2019
    Moukoko please leave Dortmund in Winter... and go to a serious club.
     
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  8. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    well one thing Moukoko has is that he ain't gonna end up in 2BL-1st Abroad. Any move out=1BL level. He was super close to bailing to RB Leipzig in Summer too.

    issue with Moukoko is arrival of Fullkrug shafted him to 3rd choice CF......and only reason they brought in Fullkrug is because Haller gonna play African Cup of Nations in January....I mean imagine blocking the kid just because Haller will be missing a few weeks. Imagine Haller's team doesn't even go far, lol.

    also ironic that Terzic is the one who pumped him up after Rose tore him down, only for Terzic to do the same thing Rose is........

    another Dortmund issue is that none of the young players even play in XI barring Adeyemi. The Reyna, Gittens, Duranville, Moukoko etc all bench players. And the rest of the youth just back ups.

    also think Dortmund aren't gonna be keen on letting him leave perm as he does have potential to explode and sell for a lot of money....but seems doubtful they will do much integration.

    I think Moukoko could bail in Winter or Summer too if things don't change. I wouldn't cry if Moukoko breakthrough another 1BL club and Brunner breakthrough Dortmund. I'm NOT a fan of too many German youth CFs playing at same 1BL club. They will eat each other game time and block each other, little benefit.
     
  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    THIS, 1BL tend to be massive middle finger to homegrown Academy players.
    "I don't know if I'm right on this, I feel like more traditional Bundesliga clubs generally just don't trust any of their homegrown talents even if they're good enough. They only trust the ones who made it in Bundesliga 2 or abroad. Maybe others already knew this?"

    yeah when you see clown 1BL clubs having 0 interest to integrate but then they all fight each other for German and non-Germans from 2BL-1st Abroad shows issue that less and less integration is even happening.
     
  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -02 M Reitz extends at 1BL Gladbach


    -on 05 LB/RB Korzynietz


    -sucks but 03 LB/RB Bauer of 3rd Liga Unterhaching who impressed for Germany U20 is out injured for a long time.
     
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  11. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    Shame that Licina isn’t starting. Nice to see u17 champs Schmitt & Ramsak. A lot of the hype from Bayern fans tends to be around the foreign talents like Asp Jensen & Fernandez.

    Hopefully Buchmann & Aseko will be fit again soon, not sure how bad their injuries are.
     
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  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    06 LB Hennig also in XI was also a U17 champ was Kabar's LB back up aka bench.

    I'm not watching YL this season, find it mostly eh, just youth stuff. RL is more important.

    Ramsak scored opener vs Man U, typical CF finish....but one that is rarely seen in Senior NT....
    1704507890835362115 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  13. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    There are definitely more young CF’s coming up that seem to have more of a strikers instinct again.
     
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  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -update on 05 AM/W Raimund of 1BL Stuttgart

    Hoeneß on offensive talent Raimund: “I just find him exciting”
    Luca Raimund could potentially have a future with the professionals at VfB Stuttgart. At least the 18-year-old was able to appear in the professional squad for the first time in the Bundesliga game against Mainz (3-1). The attacking midfielder also continued training with the first team this week.

    The fact that Raimund is there “has primarily to do with performance, but of course also with the profile he offers,” said coach Sebastian Hoeneß at the press conference for the Bundesliga game against Darmstadt 98 on Wednesday. The youngster certainly benefits from the fact that Wooyeong Jeong is currently at the Asian Games with South Korea (U24 team).

    However, Hoeneß does not necessarily see the emerging talent as a classic replacement. “Of course it also plays a role that Jeong is gone as an offensive force, even if I see Luca in a slightly different position at least right now. He’s also left-footed.” Bottom line: “I just find him exciting.”

    Hoeneß doesn't want to talk too much about the six-time U18 national player so as not to draw too much attention to him. It will probably be difficult enough for Raimund to stick with it. “He is a young lad who now has the chance to train with us. Definitely this week. I hope we talk about the good actions he shows on the pitch in the future. Time will show."

    -update on 05 CF Weiper and 04 W Gruda of 1BL Mainz
    Mainz is hoping for Weiper's return
    While Widmer is not yet up for discussion for Saturday's game in Augsburg, the FSV is hoping for the return of youngsters Nelson Weiper, whose torn muscle fiber in his thigh has healed, and Brajan Gruda, who was recently out of action due to a had to take a break due to a flu-like infection.
    https://www.kicker.de/nach-verzoege...stieg-ins-mainzer-teamtraining-969586/artikel

    -update on 02 M Breithaupt in 1BL Augsburg.
    According to kicker, Tim Breithaupt, who recently had to take a step back due to an injury, is due to return to FC Augsburg team training on Wednesday. This also means he can return to the squad against Mainz
     
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  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    03 LB Kratzig (Bayern), 04 M Kemlein (Union), 04 CB/RB Morgalla (Salzburg back from injury), 04 GK Stein (Union), 06 GK Schitt (Bayern, LOL was just playing YL vs Man U19) all making their CL bench debut.
     
  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    04 M Kemlein makes his CL debut vs Real Madrid as 7 min sub. I do hope Union integrates him, this is his 3rd cap this season between 1BL+CL. Would be nice to see an Academy player finally breakthrough Union too.
     
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  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -05 CF Weiper is out injured, did operation....sheesh how many times does one see + update only for it to be - the next day? This is why following German youth suck the injury proness. So now likely no Martel and no Weiper for October U21. Also for some reason our youth CF have shown to be injury prone from 00-onwards too....


    -1BL Koln coach Baumgart talks how much he rates 02 W Thielmann who is still out.
    https://geissblog.koeln/2023/09/baumgarts-liebeserklaerung-er-bringt-so-viel-mit/

    -03 LB Brown of 2BL FCN looks to be out ill this weekend.

    -1BL Hoff coach Matarazzo praises 02 CF Beier
    “He just deserved to get the chances he got. He confirmed that with his performance,” said Matarazzo

    “Maxi is of course a player with a lot of potential, which he has shown on the pitch in the last few weeks. “I’m happy about the huge step he’s taken,” explained the coach, who added: “And of course I’m looking forward to more.”
     
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  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    given how many Germany U21 players have fallen ill must have been outbreak at U21 camp.

    post U21.
    -Injured=Weiper, Martel (supposedly will be back after October International Break), Breithaupt
    -ill=Ernst, Urbig, Brown, Kleine-Bekel, Gruda, Wagner, Tresoldi

    that's 10 players, almost 50% of the U21 call ups......SHEESH.

    update on Breithaupt
    “Sven Michel and Tim Breithaupt trained in doses on the first day, but then went back to full training,” said head coach Enrico Maaßen
     
  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -update on 04 M Pannewig from 1BL Bochum
    “Pannewig and Kwarteng are out a bit again this week. The affected areas have reacted somewhat, it's nothing worrying, but it's not enough for the squad," said Letsch

    -05 RB Baum makes his 1BL Frankfurt bench debut for Conference League. Lets hope he breakthrough the club in future. Frankfurt does have interesting/promising youth its all about the integration question.
     
  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Frankfurt fans seem high on 05 RB Baum and think his RL/II showings confirm that he's ready for more. Some think in few years he'll be Germany's Senior NT main RB.

    I always think Senior NT talk is always too early. And although there isn't a huge amount of RBs even if there is potential but covid delayed a lot of pro careers, time will tell who will be our main RB in future.
     
  21. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Knowing the DFB, our future NT RB will probably be some random converted M, W or CB.

    Who says no to Wanner at RB lol.
     
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  22. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I mean Nagelsmann tried to shove Wanner at LB, LMAO.

    reality is too many AM/W are being shoved to fullback because of cheapskate clubs and desperation for fullbacks.
     
  23. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -02 GK Atubolu with his 2nd XI in EL
    -02 CB Schmidt with his 2nd EL cap but 1st ever Europe XI
    -03 GK Sauter making his pro bench debut for Freiburg while 02 M Rohl starts on bench and will be looking for his 1st ever Europe cap
     
  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    04 LB/RB Ba (on loan) made his European debut in EL for Austrian 1st LASK as 89th min sub vs Liverpool in 3-1 L. Looks to have played 5 min and replaced the RB in lineup, does seem like LASK is using more as RB than LB.
     
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  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    GK Updates
    -on 03 GK Urbig


    2BL Furth coach confirms that Urbig (on loan) is still #1. This is issue when player misses 1 game, the question becomes from media is the bench GK gonna become #1?

    worst thing that can happen to any young GKs trying to breakthrough pros for realz is going out for any X amount of matches=risk of losing #1 status. Annoying as ******** but true, they don't have the status of older GKs.

    -on 03 GK Ernst #1 of 2BL Hertha, also looks to be back in training after being ill.


    Hertha's case is different as bench GK=04-Kwasigroch and #3=05-Goller. So Ernst missing matches like last weekend means that either Kwasigroch or Goller will get pro experience....important so that the day that Ernst gets bought by higher league that replacement=another young GK.....here's hoping that Ernst come Summer 2025 MAX leaves Hertha and then come 04-05 U21 cycle of 2025-2027 and we get another #1.

    -2BL Hertha coach Dardai on 04 GK Kwasigroch's 2BL XI and pro debut.
    "I'm very pleasantly surprised at how Robert did it. That's also a good sign for Hertha's young talent. It's always worth working."

    this confirms my point too, that Dardai was susprised at how good Kwasigroch played shows that he had 0 expectations, lol. And this is why more and more XIs will only be good thing on day Ernst leaves.

    -on 04 GK Backhaus who is #1 on Eredivisie loan.




     
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