Auf geht's, Jungs: German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. V

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #29801 Ger90, Jul 22, 2026
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    06 RB Moreira at EPL Forest picked up assist in 3-0 W vs Championship Club.


    Eric Da Silva Moreira (46’ Aina) - 7
    Another really pleasing performance from the academy wingback. Bundles of energy and played the more advanced role demanded by Glasner exceptionally, without letting his defensive duties slip. An excellent assist, a well-timed ball across the box, for Awoniyi’s goal, too.
    https://roundtable.io/sports/soccer...am-forest-3-0-blackburn-rovers-player-ratings

    interesting is bolded, although NOT Academy player hes a Pauli Academy product, but anyways, by saying another really pleasing performance, it indicate its NOT the first one this preseason.

    from the player ratings looks like only a few players had better ratings them him. Rest between 5-7.

    I'm curious to see what happens to him, so far he legit sadly left to Pengland too early. TONS of 1BL clubs wanted him......Im assuming loan is next up.
     
  2. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    speaking of RBs, 08 RB Abraha according to TM has been upped to 1BL Hoffenheim 1st team for next season. Although would expect he continues in 3rd Liga II but with 3 competitions he likely will get chances next season in 1st team.

    he was part of Germany 08s U17 as well as in U17 Euro+U17 WC.

    also doing preseason with 1st team too as of now as well.

    will be curious to see how many RBs emerge next season. The more at top 4 leagues the better.
     
  3. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    speaking of CFs, 04 CF Marino who helped 2BL Paderborn get promoted to 1BL looks to be doing well in preseason so far.

    Im curious to see how he does in 1BL next season.

    hilarious career path, more hilarious that one can imagine.
    1-His Training club 2BL KSC wrote him off, dumped him on RL loan where he exceled and on his return basically got door....

    2-Got picked up by 2BL H96, who are like hes a 1st team prospect but in reality H96 never wanted him for 1st team, they only wanted him for 3rd Liga II. Did well in 3rd Liga II for a relegated club aka bottom.

    3-after H96 basically showed him door, he got picked up by HIS 3rd 2BL club where he got pro contract but dumped in II, after destroying RL he got 1st team chances where he established himself aka last season. Also scoring against Bayer in DFB Cup as they took Bayer to ET. And played important role in their promotion to 1BL.

    4-now on track for 1BL next season for 1st time.

    WHAT A career, LOL. Wonder how KSC and H96 feel seeing his success last season and how they wrote off a CF headed to 1BL next season. Funny part THIS preseason he scored twice in 3-2 W vs H96, LOL.

    This is reality of 1BL-2BL clubs very very ruthless and make shit ton of excuses to NOT integrate players, especially at CF. Imagine had to show himself over and over and over playing 3rd Liga-RL just to play 2BL and from there next up 1BL. More funny is that he was ABLE to breakthrough 1BL DURING HIS U21 CYCLE too, not post U21 cycle.

    Marino has never been seen as a HUGE CF talent either but that's what one calls hard persistent work. Another German-Italian CF like Tresoldi but unlike Tresoldi, Italy has 0 reasons to call up Marino for Italy U21 and he wont ever make Italy SNT because Italy has numerous CFs with better potential than Marino. So for us, hes a dual where hes going to be part of pool of options without worry of poaching.
     
  4. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    forgot somebody 07-Schenten who brokethrough 1BL Koln last season playing 7 1BL caps. Unknown future, seems like he rejected 3rd Liga loan because he has 0 interest in playing in 3rd Liga.

    FC Porto wants him as well where their plan is hed play Porto B and some chances in 1st team.

    so another in unknown future, does he stay at Koln, go to Porto, go elsewhere.

    its not surprising since Koln and integration=LOL.
     
  5. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    @Alex C pretty interesting seeing reactions in Pengland that 04 CF Downs (got poached by USA) that he has the physique to make it to highest level but that technically hes weak and 1st touches also weak, and that tactically lacking too and getting - reactions.

    Proves our point about package of a CF, LOL.

    this is a player who rushed to Pengland too quickly imagine he ditched Koln where he scored 10 goals in A 1BL PROMOTION SEASON to go play Championship, DOWNGRADE ALERT. Then for some reason after flopping in Championship he got last season a loan to 1BL HSV where he flopped hard and didn't impress. Every HSV fan wanted more game time for Stange over Downs, LOL. Should have stayed home to hone his skills.

    I recall USA fans celebrating like they poached a HUGE CF talent. I always maintained that Downs was down down down the Germany U21 pecking order from 04-05s and even the 06s were better prospect then him. Like even ceiling wise, my view was always decent 1BL CF MAX, MAX means no guarantee he ever gets there either.
     
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  6. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
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    FC Bayern München
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    Germany
    #29806 Ger90, Jul 22, 2026
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    Looks like the 1st 3 08 CFs are on verge of making pro breakthrough.
    1-08 CF Staff of 1BL Frankfurt got 3rd Liga Saarbrucken loan.
    2-08 CF Eickel of 1BL Paderbron impressing in preseason for club.

    Lasse Eickel used the SC Paderborn training camp to draw the attention of head coach Ralf Kettemann. According to a report by the Westfalen-Blatts when asked, the coach didn't actually want to highlight a single player, but in the end he made an exception for the 18-year-old homegrown player – and found clear words.

    „From my point of view, there was now no player for whom I said that he was outstanding“, Kettemann initially explained, pointing out the overall high quality density and homogeneity of his squad. Finally, the 39-year-old emphasized Eickel: „If you take Lasse Eickel: from your own youth, scoring dangerous, marching, being fit, being a full machine –he already made an impression.“

    Time spent in all test matches
    The German junior national player was used in all three of the Bundesliga promoted team's test games during the training camp and was even allowed to stay on the pitch longer than planned against Fagiano Okayama. „That wasn't actually planned that long, but the boy just has an engine up his ass“, said Kettemann with a laugh.

    However, the SCP coach wanted to leave it open whether Eickel's strong impressions were already reflected in a larger role for the professionals. „We’ll see about that“, explained Kettemann with a view to the further test games. You don't expect the young striker to be the one who will make us write history and guarantee us ten goals this season„. Nevertheless, Eickel is „someone who can defend himself and a machine“.

    This means that the home plant has been recommended for further opportunities for use during summer preparation so far. The coming weeks should show whether these will ultimately be enough for a permanent place in the Bundesliga squad.
    https://www.westfalen-blatt.de/sc-p...-eickel-kapitaen-3600385?pid=true&ueg=default

    3-08 CF Hildebrandt of 2BL Hertha looking like coach Leitl is very high on him and on track for breakthrough next season. This is from May 2026 tbc.

    One name has already been confirmed by coach Stefan Leitl himself: "Niklas Hildebrandt is a player I'm planning to play with next season." The 17-year-old center forward moved from in 2023 Energy Cottbus to Hertha, has since attracted attention with outstanding goal rates. Hildebrandt is already remarkably robust at 1.90 meters tall. He has a strong nose for goal, stunner, but also playing skills.
    https://www.rbb24.de/sport/beitrag/...tl-hildebrandt-ndi-gouram-telib-goerlich.html
     
  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    concerning 2BL Hertha
    -seems like Germany U19 Euro XI 07 M Lum is likely to breakthrough next season. He got overtaken by 09 M Eichhorn who is seen as an Elite M talent but with Eichhorn gone door is open.
    -club looking to have 4 spots in 1st team next season, this was announced few months ago at Hertha General meeting.
    -Main candidates looking like
    08 CF Hildebrandt, 07 W Ndi, 06 M Gouram (poached by Estonia), 06 M Telib (poached by Egypt), 09 CB Diallo

    seems like Leitl recently praised Telib and Diallo.

    LOL is Germany going to see bunch of 09 CBs breakthrough pro footy soon.
    -09 CB Kiala almost brokethrough Bayern but injuries ruined things. Hes always with 1st team when fit
    -09 CB Riedl, made his 1st team debut for BVB this preseason
    -09 CB Diallo, impressed in 2BL Hertha 1st team preseason that he got named by name by coach
     
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  8. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I honestly these days don't pay much attention anymore to the toddler footy outside of YNT. So players from U15-U17, I mostly ignore them, LOL.

    but am I wrong to feel like numerous 2010 are getting loads of hype already.
    -M Soldic=played 7 2BL caps last season and all indication, gotten breakthrough more next season.
    -AM Ilicevic=1BL Frankfurt is very very very keen on integrating him and likely to jump to 1st team come October 2026.
    -CF Assomo=has trained with Bayern 1st team and made bench in 1BL-DFB Cup-CL and even played and scored in RL vs adults
    -CF Turbic=getting hype everywhere for ages and him and Assomo get very huge hype as CF talents
    -W Guther=made his 1BL debut in May 2026 as 2nd youngest ever at 16 years and 4 days, only behind Moukoko, but if Moukoko is fraud than Guther is youngest ever 1BL debutant...currently doing 1BL Union preseason. Way they talk about him in Union sounds like hes going to breakthrough soon enough
    -CB Pavic=made his debut for Bayern 1st team although reality he only made debut taking advantage of fact that 09 CB Kiala was injured. And of course not long later Pavic ditched Germany U16 declaring for Croatia, LOL.
    -M Burkhardt=aint no place one goes without him being highlighted as an Elite M talent and one of BVBs biggest talent.
    -AM Minutillo=what was recently said about him from Bayer Leverkusen. Believe he might have recently trained with 1st team too.

    “Gabriel Minutillo has been with us for almost ten years now and is currently one of the most talented players of his age group in the country,” said Bayer 04 Director of Football, Kim Falkenberg. “His development, particularly last season, has been very positive. He has great potential and could be a candidate for our first team in the long term.”

    -CB Nwachukwu=Bayern wanted him, Koln got him to extend. Seems to be getting high praise and a very very promising CB talent in Germany.


    Im sure there are TONS MORE, LOL. As I said I don't really track the young kids that young but only pointing SOME of them out due to hype and due to fact that more and more of them are breakingthrough pros or seem very very close.

    next season I shall see more of them due to Germany U17 though.

    like when was last time we saw bunch of 15-16 year olds jumping to 1st teams in 1BL-2BL, LOL. And not 1-2 but more than that. I mean clown Frankfurt even got fined last year for playing underrage Ilicevic, LOL.
     
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  9. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #29809 Ger90, Jul 22, 2026
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    It feels Good doesnt it!!!
    -Simon Rolfes= German Youth are as trash as they can be, all garbage and none worthy of Bayer 1st team. Nevermind that we dont have II team and we usually give garbage loans to Germans and better ones to non-Germans. And finally foreign youth are ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Better than Germans. Bookmark This!!!!!!

    of course Im mock paraphrasing that clown.

    -Income foreign youth
    05 CF Bravo (Spain MIA), 05 AM Sertdemir (Danish, MIA), 05 AM Kanga (Swedish MIA), 07 RB Ukpeigbe (Spanish, MIA), 05 CB Milojevic (Austria, MIA), 06 CB Monamay (Belgium, MIA), 05 CB Okafor (Swiss, MIA), 06 RB Raterink (Dutch, MIA), 06 AM Heard (USA, MIA), 07 CF Szep (Hungary, MIA), 07 CF Ferati (Kosovo, MIA), 05 GK Steur (Dutch MIA), 04 M Moratalla (Spanish, MIA), 04 AM Jung (Korean, MIA), 05 AM Marsenic (Montenegro, MIA), 05 W Sesay (Dutch, MIA), 05 CF Zirkzee (Dutch, MIA),

    wut wut what happened not 1 one them even made it, LOL.

    -New exits=08 CB Natali (Italy, getting sold by Bayer soon), 06 CF Sarco (Argentina, got sold)

    also 05 M Mbamba not sure what next but he basically got loaned out for 3 back to back seasons with 1st 2 years on loans being busts, finally playing for realz last season in Belgian 1st after 3 years......

    Stepanov also looking like 2 years on loan after failing to breakthrough directly.


    What happened I thought ALL the foreign youth are a BILLION TIMES better than Germans ones and would easy peasy breakthrough 1st team, LMAO.

    Meanwhile for Germany
    -07 RW/RWB/RB Culbreath brokethrough directly 1st team at Bayer and got integrated based on Rolfes he will get more integration next season.

    Thats German Talents 1-0 to foreign youth, LMAO. 1-0 for direct jump with 0 loaning.

    -07 AM/W Alajbegovic (poached by Bosnia), after 1 HIT season in Austria at RB Salzburg he was brought back for next season to play at the club.

    Thats German Talents 2-0 to foreign youth, LMAO. But this one is with detours. And very very quick detour unlike Mbamba (needed 3 years and unknown if he even makes it with Eichhorn at club he might very not even make it) and wait and see on Stepanov who is basically 2 years on loan.

    -if Onyeka has a hit loan at 1BL Elversberg could very well be 3-0 for Germany Academy talents, LOL. Although that would be 2 years on loan. Again this proves reality that clubs value European 1st Abroad more than they do 2BL. Thats why Alajbegovic has edge over Onyeka CL with Salzburg vs 2BL with Bochum.....


    but but but but German talents in general are trash according to Rolfes.
    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    that is why Bayer has now adopted the RB Leipzig model.

    which is ******** foreign youth for U19s focus on 1st Abroad-2nd division foreign youth with pro experience instead.

    but doing that actually makes shitting on German youth hypocritical because you admit that making the first team from U19 as neither has II is very very very limited chances to extreme.
     
  11. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    update on Koln Youth.
    so 04 CB Bakatukanda, 06 M Harchaoui, 06 AM/W Borie, 04 M Kujovic (poached), 07 CF Schenten, 06 CB Mausehund, 07 RB Neumann

    the candidates are Elias Bakatukanda, Fayssal Harchaoui, Etienne Borie, Emin Kujovic, Fynn Schenten, Yannick Mausehund and Cenny Neumann. The latter has already celebrated his Bundesliga debut, but was not taken into account for preparation, while his positional U21 teammate David Fürst is allowed to show himself under Wagner. An indication that Neumann could also go on loan.

    Schenten, on the other hand, has loud Kölner Stadt-Anzeiger a loan to third division club Viktoria Köln was rejected. This coincides with information provided by the GEISSBLOG International first division clubs – clubs from France, Belgium, Austria and Portugal – have also inquired about the striker. Interested parties have been hesitant so far, but the 18-year-old would reportedly like to take his experience abroad with him.
    https://geissblog.koeln/2026/07/transfermarkt-der-1-fc-koeln-koennte-neun-spieler-verleihen

    so why exactly are clubs like Koln playing loan army, sheesh. Always nonesensical when clubs like Koln who should be integrating talents play loan army game. Again why does anyone even bother with this club anyways. There is a HUGE reason why Koln has LOST a SHIT TON of talents its because 1st prospects are SHIT.

    Also Bakatukanda has spent 2 years on loan in Austrian and in XI and thats not enough he needs more loaning, LOL. Gonna be loaned out to 2BL or something.....why do we see more 1BL clubs do that where player goes on 2BL loan then 1st Abroad or 1st Abroad then 2BL, this shit is basically same level, LMAO.

    this does indicate that 05 CB Pauli at least is avoiding the MORE loaning BS......
     
  12. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    so are 06-07s full of RB prospects or what

    06
    -Moreira=doing preseason with EPL Forest
    -Bulut=in Turkish 1st
    -von der Hitz=in 2BL
    -Reich=in 2BL
    -Lippmann=Summer Transfer to 1BL Paderborn from 3rd Liga 1860

    07
    -Koscierski=in 2BL
    -Pedrosa=in 2BL
    -Burger=in 2BL
    -Erlein=has mentioned recently moving to Bayer and then 2BL loan, also CB
    -Culbreath=in 1BL, basically RW/RWB/RB
    -Neumann=made 2 1BL caps last season seems to be loan candidate. Given how lame Koln is, would expect a 3rd Liga loan
    -Burger=made 1BL Koln bench last season and seems to be doing preseason
    -Hocker=recently signed pro contract with 1BL Bremen

    am I missing anyone....

    since 06-07 is NEXT U21 cycle that starts in Summer 2027. Curious to see how many are in top 4 league come Summer 2027.

    Seems very likely will be more than 1, compare 04-05s only Baum is 1BL, confirmed. If Morgalla wasnt injury prone and if Eitschberger wasnt constantly screwed by Hertha might very well have been 3 players.....

    very well looking like biggest RB Pool basically ever for any U21.
     
  13. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    06 CB Herwerth of 3rd Liga Stuttgart II has interest from 2BL KSC but other clubs also interested too. Hopefully takes next step this season better 2BL-1st Abroad over more 3rd Liga.
     
  14. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    06 CF Musah of 1BL Bremen continues to get praise by coach.
    „Salim is an exciting player He came onto the pitch against Okayama and immediately pinned balls, held his own and finished.“

    „Compared to last season, Salim is closer to more Bundesliga minutes“, the trainer clarified The perspective for Musah is good: Thioune emphasized that the attacker's development is far from complete and he firmly believes that Musah will be on the pitch more often in the future.

    Musah finds the step from youth football to men surprisingly easy when it comes to asserting himself against seasoned and physically strong opponents. In addition to his power, the talent against Okayama also showed surprisingly creative moments: „You can tell that he has become a little cheekier“, said Thioune.
     
  15. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
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    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  16. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
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    Germany
    #29816 Ger90, Jul 23, 2026
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    I really hope that 05 CF Pejcinovic joins Stuttgart next season. Nobody wants him to rot in 2BL and if he joins Stuttgart thats CL footy for him and our 3rd German U21 at club after Seimen and Jeltsch. Wolfsburg is full of shit in wanting $25M for Pejcinovic when Barca buys Adeyemi for $29M (some say $22M+7M bonus), nobody can justify Pejcinovic being more than Adeyemi with all of his experience. The initial offer of 18M should have been enough. Current offer looking like $22.5M+bonus. Would hate to see this collapse because of greed from Wolfsburg in screwing over the player.

    meanwhile 04 CF Tresoldi is linked with basically 4 out of 4 of the top leagues including linked with BVB. I really feel like he should go 1BL before going elsewhere.

    whats interesting is that if this happens we would get 2 CL CFs next season for U21!!!! Thats 50% aka 2 out of 4 of our main U21 CFs too!!!!
     
  17. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    actually correction, 05 CF Weiper is currently on Austrian 1st loan to a club playing CL Qualifiers, so either CL or EL for him next season.

    so possibility, of 3 out of 4 of our main U21 CFs this cycle could play CL or at MIN European footy next season that's good to see.

    from 06s, Moerstedt is playing EL with Hoffenheim and Brunner if he sticks around Monaco looking like Conference League for him.
     
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  18. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    1BL Frankfurt announced their Training Camp Squad
    -The 1st teamers=05 RB Baum, 04 CB Collins, 05 M Aseko,
    -The Strong Future Integration=10 AM Ilicevic, LOL back to back preseason, last year was 14 years old and scored on his debut in friendly and Frankfurt got fined by DFB for playing him. This time hes 15 years old and still underaged. A club doesn't make such efforts for any player unless they see him as a HUGE talent. I would guess he will only train no friendlies.

    -The Fill in the squad players=04 CB Maluze, 07 GK Siljevic (poached by Bosnia), 08 CB Scheller

    so no 08 M Is and 07 AM/W Dills (poached by USA), believe both were there in first friendly.
    loan or no room for them and dumped back to II. Issue for both is that II was last season only in 5th division so basically wasted a year on low level crap. I do always find it weird whenever I see too many USA fans who think Dills was going to breakthrough 1BL Frankfurt......based on what exactly. Even Baum an Academy product needed a loan to breakthrough and the reality is that Frankfurt ALWAYS rated Ilicevic more than they ever did Dills. If any player from Academy gets direct integration its Ilicevic.
     
  19. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -from kicker, 10 AM Ilicevic
    The exceptional talent Ilicevic, who is only 15 years old, is to be trained permanently with the professionals and introduced to the Bundesliga.

    -09 LB Lemke who made 1BL HSV debut last season as their youngest ever debutant for the club has gotten praise by coach and teammates so far in preseason

    -07 CF Stange was supposed to have a LONGER vacation but was already back yesterday as the kid refused because he wanted to train with 1st team. What happened is that HSV knows that mentality this kid is legit and serious about training. Hes been praised a lot for his work ethic and how he doesnt party doesnt do any bad things, very focused on footy. They were afraid that if they said no, he would go train solo so they relented as they would rather he train supervised at the club, LOL.

    “Before the tournament, my aim was to have a successful campaign with the team and finish as top goalscorer, so I’m really happy with how things went,” said Stange. “It was a great trip and I had a lot of fun with the lads. Overall, it was a brilliant experience. Playing at a European Championship for Germany is a huge thing, even at youth level. Along with the World Cup, it’s the biggest tournament you can play in at this age.”

    “I just want to play as much as possible. Hopefully everything else will follow from there, but that’s my main goal. My first appearances in the Bundesliga were really exciting. We’ve brought in a lot of very good players who I’ve been able to learn from. In the Bundesliga, you have to play with even more clarity and maturity. I’m getting better at that all the time. This will be my first full season in senior football and I want to give absolutely everything.”
     
  20. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #29820 Ger90, Jul 23, 2026
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2026
    have to say it could have been fun to see Karl+Ilicevic playing together at Frankfurt, LOL. What a combo that could have been, would have been very fun to watch. Who knows if Ilicevic jump to pro footy pans out we hopefully see them together in SNT.

    but alas Karl made right choice to bail from Frankfurt cough was basically kicked out cough. He brokethrough one of biggest clubs in the world at Bayern at 17 years old would have brokethrough earlier if Kompany wasn't such a wimp, LOL.

    Ilicevic is seen as biggest Frankfurt talent currently at club. I do think he will get real game time next season but a full breakthrough likely to be MIN 2027-2028 season. Its truly impressive when a clown club like Frankfurt might go for integration for realz, first time in AGES.

    Karl playing with Ilicevic, Collins, Baum, Aseko
    vs
    Karl playing with Urbig, Brown, Pavlovic, Bischof, Musiala........we need German RB, CBs and CFs at Bayern. Im ignoring Tah+Kimmich due to them being older. Hopefully 09 CB Kiala manages to breakthrough Bayern in future.

    from a NT perspective 2nd is better too.


    another interesting aspect, we keep mentioning how more Ms than ever are breakingthrough top 1BL clubs and on track for more. But little is being said about AM+Ws also having same thing, not only are there more and more AM+W in 1BL but also in the bigger 1BL clubs. How long until every top 1BL club has German youth AM+W.....
     
  21. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    09 M/AM Biber looking like jump to 1BL Gladbach 1st team although obviously means he will play in U19-RL with 1st team training for now.


    seems like 07 M Vidic and 07 AM/W Fleck look to have also been promoted to 1st team.

    the ex BVB Fleck looking like hes impressing in preseason so far too.
     
  22. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    looks like 04 W/CF Kabadayi moving to Croatia 1st from 1BL Augsburg after failed Turkish 1st loan. Weird transfer should have went to 2BL or something. Although the club Rijeka plays Conference League so European footy.

    issue with Kabadayi imo, is that hes a space dribbler in that he needs tooooo much space to function. In close control, more tight, hes limited, hes also technically not always clean and very rough, his first touch isnt always great either. That is why I believed that SNT wise he was never going to be relevant. Lacks that real solo difference maker aspect.

    from our perspective
    -at Augsburg=there is 04 W Kade and 05 AM/W Komur who both had breakthrough 1BL seasons last season...................08 AM/W Sakar joined club this Summer, time will tell if he breakthrough or not.
    -in terms of profile=06 W El Mala is actually what Kabadayi would IDEALLY have turned out to be. Sure not everything works out for El Mala like needs to improve decision making and he needs space but not as much as Kabadayi does, who is heavily dependent on mass space to function but on a whole hes much more direct, better finishing and better dribbling than Kabadayi. El Mala can go crazy as too often he basically dribbling solo like all match, LOL which sometimes makes him look selfish. I still recall his game vs BVB where he wrecked the BVB D ALL game with his speed+dribbling and should have scored to point where BVB admitted that El Mala was best player on field even though BVB won, LOL. Funny since BVB is a contender for El Mala transfer this Summer.

    so in either case we are covered
     
  23. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    on topic of Kade, always found it super bizarre the amount of fans online who over the years who basically think he has SNT potential. To me SNT potential that isnt LONG TERM is IRRELEVANT.

    for years and years I saw that never got it, LOL.

    too many people have DFB type tunnel vision, LOL.
    essentially DFB tunnel vision is NOTHING exists unless they are pro footy players.......that is 100% DFB logic and 100% logic of so called German experts. Its dumb as hell but true.

    that is why they bitch about GKs for years bitch about CFs, bitch about AM+W bitch so much because they only care about the NOW NOW NOW.

    never forget how Kuntz raged mongered and bitch to the moon about 0 CFs and doomsday but towards end of his reign as U21 coach he finally conceded that there was CF talents when looking at younger age groups aka 02-onwards, LOL. This clown was head of highest YNT UXX and even he showed perfect example of tunnel vision, LMAO.

    when Kade emerged 4 years ago, yeah there was a SHIT TON less AM+W players but at this point in that time what has emerged, what will emerge next season and what will emerge in future. Who actually believes he has any real prospects long term.

    remember AM+W tends to be what 6-7 spots region. No way he would get a spot. Given that hes full German at least we know we shall never lose him to poaching.
     
  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    on 06 AM/W Darvich on 1BL loan to Elversberg, looks to be impressing.
    Things happen fast when Noah Darvich has the ball. He receives the ball, passes to a teammate, and runs after them – often playing directly without first controlling the ball. If the situation demands it, he's not above going one-on-one with his opponent. When Noah Darvich was substituted on at halftime in Friday's 1-2 friendly defeat against third-division side Viktoria Köln, something changed in the game of Bundesliga newcomers SV Elversberg. They became faster – and more direct going forward.
    https://www.saarbruecker-zeitung.de...milliarde-euro-mann-der-sve-v22_aid-151804461

    Darvich is an interesting player in that hes basically on who controls a lot of his teams game. We saw in double U17 2023 Trophies he was basically our side Maestro aka orchestrator.

    if he wants to go more direct and fast he can do so and he can also go more slow possession style, can play both ways.

    playing directly without controlling also reminds me of something Germany 2010 did a lot. Doing this allows you to be faster without wasting any seconds on ball control, focus on ball passing to teammates accuracy, speed of action.

    he has good technical skills, dribbling, passing, throughballs, crossing, shooting from distance , not a slow player etc.

    last season in 3rd Liga aka his 1st real season in pro footy he bagged double digits for a II team and was named Best Newcomer to league.
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    fun fact, 06 W El Mala was the previous season, best 3rd Liga Newcomer aka the 1st winner of it since it was introduced in 2025.

    so thats 2 06s attackers who won it back to back seasons, LOL.

    hopefully Darvich has a breakout 1BL season next season. So Comer Summer 2027, he plays with Stuttgart 1st team.
     
    Dang Son Tung and Alex C repped this.
  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I do think that every team needs a maestro, when Germany 08s eliminated Spain (LOL) from qualifying to both U17 Euro and U17 WC the maestro was Karl. Karl had 1 goal and 1 assist in 3-2 W vs Spain as we knocked them out in qualifiers and Karl basically orchestrated Spains demise too.

    when Karl was left out of U17 WC, man the team looked lethargic, 0 creativity, no real ideas and looked lost without him.

    every past Germany SNT winning squad had a maestro creative player who made difference. You cant win without one unless you do a Greece 2004, LOL.
     

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