Auf geht's, Jungs: German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. V

at least we won the group, anything else would be embarrassing, it was a weak group.

since I 100% believe we won't win U17 WC. Its now a question of between R32 (so stupid should be R16-onwards) and after where do we get eliminated.

dumbest part is even though we were mediocre in M1 and M2, we should have won 3/3.

I'm curious to who we play in R32.

 

just shows how unserious Nagelsmann is. Imagine that a player like Ouedraogo is off from SNT by a player like Amiri, WTF. Who cares about Amiri, focus on future and more talented player. This is a coach who is exposing himself as blocking younger players for older and more average players.

hopefully March-onwards Ouedraogo continues in SNT. So now for next gen Ms we have Pavlovic and Ouedraogo in SNT. How long until Bischof joins???

 

Bischof should already be there imo. But still, great news that Ouedraogo is in, we need a generational shift in midfield and it's slowly coming.

 

I am sure Quedraogo will have a great season if he avoids injuries that kept him away almost the whole last season. A midfield of Pavlovic, Bischof, Quedraogo, Stiller and Nmecha could be the youngest midfield ever germany had

 

we need to move on from the Kimmich (at M), Goretzka, Gross, Andrich, Can.

issue is Kompany if he would just bench Goretzka that would kickstart, Bischof for sure. Goretzka gets a SNT because he keeps playing at Bayern. Issue is even at Bayern its clear he's crashed and isn't really at the level anymore.

 

on Karl,
Since Monday, the record champion's attacker has been with the national team. And expectations are high. Also those of the national coach. “I certainly expect him to be able to transfer the style of play he shows at Bayern to our team. He's very flexible,” emphasizes Di Salvo. “He should play without any pressure.” And take the opportunity to recommend himself for future assignments.

“He should now take the chance to make a name for himself with the U21 team as well,” says Di Salvo. And thus do what he has already managed to do in Munich. “He's making the most of his opportunity at Bayern, playing freely, and has scored in both the Bundesliga and the Champions League,” says Di Salvo.

Thanks to his teammate Tom Bischof (20, most recently captain), Karl's integration should be easier. Both are expected to be in the starting lineup against Malta.

National team coach Julian Nagelsmann (38) will certainly be watching from afar. The former Bayern coach has long had Karl on his radar with an eye on the 2026 World Cup: “Generally, there are a few young players who are talented and who could be interesting for us with regard to the World Cup, including Lennart Karl.”
https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/...-dfb-nationaltrainer-6911ea024c1a91d403f2d731

on Karl, El Mala,

When asked by BILD how he plans with both players, Nagelsmann explains: "Generally, I've already said that I'm not a big fan of this extremely early hype and pushing them too much. For me, it's simply about having very open and transparent communication with the respective players, in this case with Said El Mala. That he already knows what position he's playing in here, that he's not yet an established national player. He has the chance, especially in training, to simply show what he can do."

In addition to the Cologne player, Nagelsmann also gives Karl World Cup hopes! He explains: "Generally, there are a few young players who are talented and who could be interesting for us towards the World Cup, including Lennart Karl."

The reason: Both have a profile that is rare in Germany: "We don't have too many classic wingers on the left and right flanks who feel comfortable here and can dribble the ball inwards. Lennart does that very well at Bayern, when he gets playing time, of course. He hasn't played a U21 match yet; he should prove himself there first at the national team level. And what do I expect from him? That he gives Toni di Salvo two victories, not alone, but with his other teammates, of course. But also that he can play the decisive role that he claims for himself and that a Bayern Munich player can and must also fulfill."

Nagelsmann generally says about El Mala and Karl: "It's very, very early. But for me, it's about seeing them in training, in the group. To feel how they move here, whether they already have the quality to be considered for the tournament."

He also mentions other names: "There are many players in the running who could slip in. That could concern Ouedraogo, that could concern Lennart Karl, that could concern Tresoldi. With Said, it was enough to invite him because he has a profile that we don't have much of in Germany. That's why I have to see him, even if it's very early." Then I would emphasize that hyping a player up is not healthy; the player needs to clearly understand the communication regarding why he is here and what his role is. But it's also possible that he'll be back with the U21 team for the second game."
https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/...-fussball-aufgehoert-6911af340166cd59ef99a6c9


we really need players like Gruda, Diehl etc to return from injury.

 

EXCL | 16 y/o gem Kennet #Eichhorn has a release clause in his current contract with Hertha BSC, which runs until 2029. The clause is already valid from this coming summer.

The amount varies depending on country, competition and the club involved, with an upper limit of roughly €10–12 million, w/@berger_pj

RB Leipzig are pushing for him. Schäfer/Baier watched him live against Kaiserslautern. Bayern and Dortmund were also present.

🚨🔵⚪️ EXCL | 16 y/o gem Kennet #Eichhorn has a release clause in his current contract with Hertha BSC, which runs until 2029. The clause is already valid from this coming summer.

The amount varies depending on country, competition and the club involved, with an upper limit of… pic.twitter.com/mPpZWi4AaW

— Florian Plettenberg (@Plettigoal) November 10, 2025

I'm hoping he goes Leipzig!!!!
-club needs MORE Germans
-Bayern and BVB have enough Germans M integrate them FULLY
-just imagine,

Leipzig M=Ouedraogo+Eichhorn
Bayern M=Bischof+Pavlovic................they also have Aseko
BVB M=Watjen+Kaba


although other reports have mentioned that Bayer and Frankfurt are also interested in him too. Those would also be better options than Bayern+BVB. Nevermind all the top clubs in EPL+La Liga also interested. Anything outside of 1BL=dumb.

 

ℹ️ U 21-KADER-UPDATE:
Cheftrainer Antonio #DiSalvo reagiert auf die Abreise von Assan #Ouédraogo zum @DFB_Team. 👇️#U21 #UNSEREZUKUNFT | 📸 Getty Images pic.twitter.com/EPBNLRrnQT

— DFB-Nachwuchs (@DFBNachwuchs) November 10, 2025

never got the Baur fixation by DFB.
from U18-present, always called up.

we used to call him up to Germany U19 as AM/W when there were MORE talented AM/Ws for 04s. Now after never being productive in AM/W at pro level got shifted to M.

I'm more meh towards him because due to next gen Ms, I don't see him ever making SNT.

 

Germany U20 changes
-OUT=Becker, Drexler, Haas, Krattenmacher, Malanga
-IN=Janisch, Suso, Wurm, Munz

 

Troll poster these days back to having a mental breakdown with his whole 0 CFs, we are doomed, there is NOTHING etc ranting.

NOBODY is a CF, screaming in horror!!!!!


funny how NOBODY is a CF for this clown but Havertz who wasn't a CF when younger for him is one. And Havertz is Germany's worst ever CF in a tourney. If one takes into account that WC18-WC22 period was our worst ever. EC24 we were more stable and he had 0 non-PK goals and was basically invisible all tourney. Even WC22 he only did well when playing off Fullkrug otherwise also invisible when used at CF.

begs question of why does Havertz get a pass for this CLOWN but nobody else does. Only logical explanation is troll poster's ego. Since he pushed Havertz to be played at CF for what feels like fast approaching 10 years ago, he will give Havertz a pass at every chance otherwise its an L for him..........its already an L anyways since he has rarely impressed at CF for Germany but impresses in AM/W.

PS do everyone a favor and go back to your parody mode of "CFs are obsolete position", LMAO.

 

LOL, Ouedraogo this season
-Summer=Germany U19 playing U19 Euro after return from long term injury.
-September=Germany U20, dominating and wrecking Italy
-October=Germany U21, one of the + in a window where we had MASS OUTs at D which ruined U21 last month.
-November=Germany SNT

has this ever happened to any player???? Feels like a first, LOL.

LMAO, every International window he's played with new team 4 back to back times.....

 

-1BL Frankfurt interested in 07 CB Coulibaly.
https://www.fussballtransfers.com/a3405049241057699107-werder-bundesliga-interesse-an-coulibaly

-1BL BVB as usual wasteful club, LOL. Seems like they are unsure what to do with 06 LB Kabar. They can't sell him for a fortune because he's rotting in RL and they don't really want to integrate him either. RL is a parody for him, scoring like 3 goals recently including a goal where he dribbled past 3 players, LOL. They seem to want to MAYBE loan him out to 2BL level to increase his price but at same time the possibility that he could return and breakthrough is also there.

Translation, this is a dumb club with 0 planning, LMAO. At this point its deranged the amount of clubs who make players sign pro contracts just because they don't want to lose them for free or cheap but have no planning whatsoever planned for the players. WHAT A FARCE.

real stupid shit is why wasn't he loaned out in Summer???

-LOL, like I mentioned recently that Elgert is such an overrated youth coach. Everyone in Germany act like he's an amazing coach. And I criticized the guy, including reality that he did NOT want Ouedraogo in the S04 1st team.

well, looks like Ouedraogo recently said that he's not bothered by Elgert's rants that he was rushed to 1st team and no point since he can't influence that anyways since he's no longer at S04. Looks like Elgert was blaming his past injuries to being rushed to pro footy......ah yes the German way of always finding an excuse..........so all foreign youth players have injury issues when they play pro at 16, 17 y/o. You ALWAYS only see bitching and 1 million and 1 excuses about German talents.

like why do sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many in German footy seem to have a fixation to always delay every German talent???

I find it crazy how much there is this obsession to derail or try to derail ALL German talents with they are NEVER ready mentality and everything is rushing.

 

-07 who knows his position although played in attack on his XI debut Wallentowitz gets praise for his 2BL XI debut at S04.
https://www.kicker.de/nur-sechs-waren-juenger-schalke-staunt-ueber-wallentowitz-1164827/artikel

-05 RB Berner signs pro contract at 2BL Hertha. Most important part,

This season, the 20-year-old, who had already made the jump to the professional squad once in the previous season, also made his debut in the 2. Bundesliga and the DFB Cup. Further appearances are expected in the coming months.
https://www.herthabsc.com/de/nachrichten/2025/11/profivertrag-janne-berner-2526

 

Agree. All the signs are he will probably quit after World Cup. Hence, continued fixation with these senior flops.

He probably thinks, my best chance of winning World Cup is with the experience players.

 

🚨 There are multiple clubs in Europe scouting Hertha BSC wünderkind striker Kennet Eichhorn.

🔸 Bayern Munich
🔸 RB Leipzig
🔸 Borussia Dortmund
🔸 Eintracht Frankfurt
🔸 Bayer Leverkusen
🔸 Real Madrid
🔸 FC Barcelona
🔸 Paris Saint-Germain
🔸 Manchester United

They are aware… pic.twitter.com/6eTsnFKCa9

— Transfer News Live (@DeadlineDayLive) November 11, 2025

 

Eichhorn is a player who
-keeps being likened to a Kroos/Busquets
-most valuable 2BL player
-only 16 y/o too, jumped to pros moment he became eligible
-typical, everyone wants a player now while still cheaper than if he fully breakthrough in 1BL level. Lets' be honest the La Liga+EPL club will likely make him play youth footy or some dumb loan, its a waste of time. Should 100% play 1BL next season with whoever has a real plan for him to breakthrough their club. And none of the 1BL clubs have excuse......you want to loan him out to 2BL-1st Abroad....he emerged from that level. So 1BL has to be next.

That's 100% what he's thinking but the problem is we ain't winning WC, LOL. So why not use this tourney to focus on the EC28 instead.

 

yes this was brought up in past and 100% needs to be a thing. Since these pathetic LOSER countries can't dev anything themselves and make NT footy into something more akin of club footy then why not make other nations pay "transfer" fees, LMAO.



Clash of Associations
National Team Switches by Talents: DFB Examines Compensation – “Training Must Pay Off”
The German Football Association (DFB) is examining whether there is a possibility of compensation payments when talented players switch national teams. “It makes absolutely no sense to me why a player who has been primarily trained at his club for over five years, but also by the association as a junior partner, can switch national associations free of charge,” said DFB Managing Director Andreas Rettig.

With Yıldız & Stanisic
Born in Germany, active for another nation
“We are currently examining whether there is a possibility of training compensation when a player switches national associations. This topic has not yet been addressed on a large scale. But training must pay off for both sides, the trainee and the trainer,” Rettig explained in an interview with the German Press Agency (dpa).

Over 40% of German talents have two passports
The switching of talents is not new, but due to social change, this issue will become increasingly significant. “In Germany, 43 percent of children under five years of age have dual citizenship (Note: Rettig later clarified that his statement only referred to children under five with a migration background). When they are ten or twelve years older, they can decide: Do I prefer the eagle to, for example, the crescent moon?” said Rettig. “We have analyzed the squad lists in the association from the U15 to the U21: The percentage there is significantly higher than the aforementioned 43 percent. There are age groups in which seven or eight players in the starting lineup have two passports.”

Currently, a possible change of association is being discussed, for example, in the case of Union Berlin's Ilyas Ansah, who is being courted by the Ghanaian association. Famous examples from the recent past in which talents trained in Germany have opted for another national team include Can Uzun (20, Turkey) from Eintracht Frankfurt and Ibrahim Maza (19, Algeria) from Bayer Leverkusen.
https://www.transfermarkt.de/nation...ldung-muss-sich-lohnen-quot-/view/news/462745

 

Bookmark this tweet

Patrick-Marc Meister is a disgrace of a coach and a human being .

Can Uzun, Kenan Yildiz, Ibrahim Maza, Matteo Palma.. got hated by him for no fucking reason

N still playing this stupid lineup in the last group stage match @DFBNachwuchs @DFB_Team

— German Talents Scout (@GermanTalents) November 10, 2025

LMAO, calm down freak, no need to call him disgrace as a human being. One should only say something like that if you know him personally. Stick to professionalism, he's shit coach that's enough no need to go more.

Also, don't think people don't have short term memories. You yourself
-shat on Yildiz, everytime I used to be bring him up as a top talent back when he was a shrimp, you got triggered and hassled me nonstop about issue. Same crap you did with Asllani. No suddenly "ah we lost big talent, Meister is a disgrace".

lets be honest, Yildiz got the shaft by DFB for same reason why you HATED the player its because he was a shrimp back in the day. And we ALL know you HATE any and all small players and don't care about fact that these kids can still grow, LULZ.
-you yourself didn't give 2 shits about either Maza or Uzun. I recall whenever Uzun was brought up you got really annoyed and didn't rate him whatsoever. When Maza and Uzun got poached your reaction was like who cares, not good enough......we all know your a SHIT judge of talents, LMAO.
-Palma is the only one where you had no negativity about, so 1/4=25%, LULZ.

how the ******** are you any different than Meister? Your just as bad as him, LMAO.

I've always said troll poster mentality=DFB and he always proof that to be case, LMAO. Its funny because he ALWAYS defended DFB at every chance and always got triggered whenever I shat on DFB.

 

looks like R32 and R16 is set for Germany.

-R32=Germany vs Burkina Faso
-R16=IF we advance we play either Senegal or Uganda

Africa galore, LOL.

wonder if this is where we end the line. I feel like this team could struggle vs more direct physical aggressive fast teams that one sees from Africa.

U17 in general is usually a very poor indicator of talent anyways precisely because some players or teams are more ahead in terms of body than others. That physical domination is a thing and its more GLARING for bunch of kids too.

 

Also. Alot of these African kids ages are highly dubious lol.

 

-05 AM/W Ibrahimovic and 04 W Kade press conference.
https://www.dfb.de/news/anton-kade-wir-haben-noch-viel-vor

-08 AM/W Karl Interview
https://www.dfb.de/news/lennart-karl-auch-als-juengerer-von-anfang-an-spielen

-looks like 04 LB Rothe is out.

ℹ️ U 21-KADER-UPDATE 👇️😕#U21 #UNSEREZUKUNFT | 📸 Thomas Böcker/DFB pic.twitter.com/gNNmFfJdBd

— DFB-Nachwuchs (@DFBNachwuchs) November 12, 2025

-according to media, 06 M Lenz of 2BL Bochum is attracting interest of 1BL Bayer and other top 1BL clubs. Looks like an option if he ends up at Bayer is loan to Bochum. Either way seems like Summer 2026 or 2027 he could end up at top club.
https://www.liga-zwei.de/vfl-bochum-cajetan-lenz-nach-dieser-saison-schon-weg


LOL, how many next gen Ms will play in top clubs at this point??? Feels like more and more will happen in near future. We haven't seen anything of sorts for a LONG LONG TIME.

 

07 M Engelns of 2BL Paderborn has attracted interest of numerous 1BL clubs.
https://www.fussballtransfers.com/a2201799566018923879-farke-sohn-im-bundesliga-fokus

for him, if Paderborn gets 1BL Promotion, currently in 1st place, there would be no reason to leave his current club. Just play 1BL min 1 season with them and then bail.


LMAO, at this point, ALL regular 2BL XI Ms will have 1BL interest.
nevermind that 05-Aseko, 05-Ulrich, 06-Watjen are 3/3 on 2BL loan and 3/3=regular XIs.

 

its interesting to note that 07 M Engelns is the son of Daniel Farke. He uses his mother's name to avoid nepotism..............which is stupid because there is no such thing in German footy, LULZ. German footy is full of sabotaging/screwing own players at every chance, a million and 1 excuses to NOT integrate etc. A player who brokethrough 2BL last season at his age has 0 to do with nepotism.

speaking of families.
08 CB Gnagnon signed pro contract with 3rd Liga RWE.......he's the younger bro of 04 CB Quarshie. So half-brothers???? I almost never post 3rd Liga pro contracts but interesting one due to connection to a Germany UXX player.

𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐟𝐢𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐠 𝐛𝐞𝐢 𝐑𝐖𝐄 𝐟ü𝐫 𝐉𝐚𝐦𝐞𝐬 𝐆𝐧𝐚𝐠𝐧𝐨𝐧 🖋️

Der 17-jährige Verteidiger aus dem FÖRDERWERK wird ab Sommer 2026 zum Kader der Drittligaprofis gehören. Ab sofort wird er ein Mal pro Woche bei den Profis trainieren und soll so an die erste Mannschaft… pic.twitter.com/4tsHyEJuco

— Rot-Weiss Essen (@rot_weiss_essen) November 11, 2025

 

Antonio Di Salvo on...
...the training week: So far, I'm very satisfied. Compared to the last training camp, we were able to train better because we had a full squad. We reacted quickly and called up Mika Baur to replace Assan Ouedraogo. This allowed us to train eleven against eleven. We also took advantage of the short distance to Nuremberg and brought Winners Osawe into training. We have perfect conditions, short distances, and a great pitch, which is why we feel very comfortable and have been able to train well.

...the opponent Malta: You can't just beat any opponent easily. We have to be strong from the start and take every opponent seriously. We have to play offensively from the beginning because we are the favorites and want to show it. We want to take control of the game quickly, otherwise it could get uncomfortable. We have to win every game in the group and want to start doing that tomorrow.

...the captaincy question: We have two captains. Tom Bischof and Finn Jeltsch have emerged as the ones who have a good rapport with the other players and the coaching staff. Tomorrow, Bishof will lead the team onto the pitch as captain.

... the returning Finn Jeltsch and Nnamdi Collins: They are important for our game, as is Joshua Quarshie, who was also recently unavailable. With them, we can be solid defensively. They give us security. Against Greece and Northern Ireland, we weren't so secure because the opponents noticed that someone out of position was playing in defense. I'm therefore glad they're back, because they will give us stability.

... the goalkeeping situation: We have a wealth of options in goal: Mio Backhaus and Dennis Seimen are playing at the highest level and delivering superb performances. Both have achieved good results and are continuing their strong performances in training. I've decided to give both of them a game. Tomorrow, Mio will play against Malta, and Dennis against Georgia.

... the expectations for Lennart Karl: I'm not putting pressure on Lennart Karl to decide the games on his own. We have to play as a team, defend together, and attack together. He has integrated superbly here, is a great person on and off the pitch, and demonstrates his quality in training. Of course, he still has a lot to learn, but that's perfectly normal. Lennart will definitely play in both matches and make his debut.

...the decision on whether Said El Mala will join the U21 team after the first match: In the past, there have often been players who have played for both national teams. The integration and communication are excellent. Julian Nagelsmann has said that he would like to see Said and Assan. We will discuss after the match whether any action is necessary.

 

Germany U20 trashing Romania 4-0 HT.
Brunner X3 and Bulut are the scorers.

Brunner now at
6 goals and 2 assists in 3 games for Germany U20, scoring in 3/3.

his 1st goal was a solo run while facing off like 3-4 on him, his 2nd was a back to goal with a D on him turn and score and his 3rd is great run behind the D followed by a chip past the GK.