Auf geht's, Jungs: German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. V

Germany U18 squad for May friendly vs Denmark. LOL, for years the end of year friendlies always seem to be vs Denmark.

Torwart
Fernando Dickes RB Leipzig 1 0
Enis Vauclain Kamga 1. FC Kaiserslautern 0 0

Feldspieler
Marvin Dills 25.04.2007 Eintracht Frankfurt 1 0
Luca Erlein TSG Hoffenheim 6 0
Fritz Henri Fleck Borussia Mönchengladbach 5 0
Alessandro Gaul Souza Eintracht Frankfurt 0 0
Viggo Gebel RB Leipzig 0 0
Denis Husser Hannover 96 7 4
Owono Keumo VfL Bochum 3 0
Kacper Koscierski VfL Bochum 3 0
Boris Lum Hertha BSC 4 0
Tyler Louis Meiser 01.03.2007 Borussia Dortmund 3 0
Till Neininger 03.04.2007 VfL Wolfsburg 4 0
Elijah Oguguo SC Freiburg 1 0
Luis Raphael Pick VfL Bochum 0 0
Rafael Pinto Pedrosa Karlsruher SC 4 0
Juan Tiago Esteban Poller 27.02.2007 TSG Hoffenheim 5 0
Mika Preßler 03.04.2007 1. FSV Mainz 05 0 0
Moritz Reimers 13.02.2007 Hamburger SV 3 0
Kilian Sauck 27.03.2007 Borussia Mönchengladbach 5 1
Marwin Schmitz 20.01.2007 FC St. Pauli 0 0
Jamie Schuldes 26.01.2007 RB Leipzig 0 0

auf Abruf
Wesley Adeh 08.01.2007 Werder Bremen 2 0
Joel Awuah 10.01.2007 FC Energie Cottbus 0 0
Niklas Behr Karlsruher SC 2 0
Elias Benkara 29.04.2007 Borussia Dortmund 0 0
Franz Xaver Bleicher 18.03.2007 FC Augsburg 2 0
Nick Cherny Borussia Dortmund 3 1
Abdoul Karim Coulibaly Werder Bremen 2 0
Montrell Culbreath Bayer Leverkusen 7 1
Luis Engelns 11.03.2007 SC Paderborn 2 0
Romero Gerres Rot-Weiss Essen 0 0
Luca Höcker Werder Bremen 0 0
Mikolaj Marutzki 15.01.2007 1. FC Köln 0 0
Kevin Motowilczuk FC Augsburg 2 0
Cenny Neumann 12.01.2007 RB Leipzig 0 0
Francis Onyeka 29.04.2007 Bayer Leverkusen 7 3
Ferdinand Pohl 22.02.2007 Bayer Leverkusen 0 0
Jesper Schlich Bayer Leverkusen 2 0
Mick Schmetgens Werder Bremen 5 0
Rouven Tarnutzer SC Freiburg 0 0
Lionel Voufack RB Leipzig 0 0
Danyal Hakan Zor Karlsruher SC 0 0

 

Looks like Palma and Gashi is gonna miss the u 17, pavlic is coming for Palma. Ohh mann... Palma is our best defender nut if he stays because he is gonna play with udinese then im fine wirh it... keep dreaming ))

 

why does DFB always call up players who retract?

like do they just announce the squads without even talking to the players? LOL.

 

04 CF Ansah of 2BL Paderborn linked with 1BL Union, Freiburg and Gladbach, looks like Frankfurt is a no go.

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while 04 CF Tresoldi of 2BL H96 continues to be linked with 1BL Frankfurt.

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its great to see variety of CFs around different clubs. We really did NOT need both Ansah and Tresoldi moving to Frankfurt, LOL.


-BVB=02-Beier
-Stuttgart=02-Woltemade
-Kiel=02-Harres (has interest from other 1BL and EPL clubs and Kiel are relegation candidates)
-Hoffenheim=02-Lemperle (next season)
-Union Berlin=04-Ansah????
-Frankfurt=04-Tresoldi????
-Bremen=04-Topp
-Koln (strong 1BL Promotion Candidate)=04-Downs (also linked with other 1BL clubs)
-Mainz=05-Weiper
-Wolfsburg=05-Pejcinovic (next season)

looking like 10 different clubs too out of 18.
02-Scherhant of 2BL Hertha also linked with upwards movement too. And wait and see if we have another CF at Hoffenheim next season with 06-Moerstedt, no guarantee he doesn't end up on loan. Who knows a successful U19 Euro for Moerstedt could boost his chances at club too.

and we continue to be on track for 6 04-05 CFs playing 1BL level next season too.

PS Woltemade bagged double digits over weekend in 1BL and Lemperle bagged double digits over weekend in 2BL too. Downs has already bagged double digits in 2BL.

Beier isn't far off from double digits in 1BL (he scored double last season and injuries have derailed this season a bit) and so is Harres too very close.
Topp and Weiper are still on that trying to full on breakthrough 1BL so aren't that close.

Scherhant, Tresoldi and Ansah aren't that far off from double in 2BL.
Pejcinovic too many injuries but if not for that and barely missing could very well have bagged double.

its clear whether 1BL or 2BL that almost every player seem to have double digit potential at MIN in 2BL level which is great to see.

 

LOL, 05 AM/W Opitz is gonna end up on 2BL loan dumping next season.

1BL Bremen is such a farce of a club. They kept him around allllll season just to boost the II team.

they rejected Summer 2024 loan and Winter 2025 loan, making up BS excuses but it amounted to 0 1st team chances.

always disgusting how so many clubs screw their own youth.

oh well better 2BL loan than Bremen's shitty 3rd Liga loan fetish, LMAO.

 

Louey Ben Farhat would have been a strong addition to this age group but he seems to be dedicated to Tunisia, although he did play for them last time in 2023

 

yeah if he continues on his path, he's likely to be in 1BL come Summer 2026. DFB tends to rarely even bother with poaching back players too.

the fed is too hang up on how they made their choice, whatever.
They rarely make any real effort to poach back and when they do it tends to be more towards positions like CF.

we seem to have hard time vs players from North African descent these days as all those players get poached fast and usually get called up up their age groups.

like Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt etc most getting poached. I mean Algeria were tempted to call up 07 CB Benkara who plays DFB to SNT and who plays BVB U19 footy just to poach him from Germany. How long until they do it and he gets poached? LOL.

this is why I'm hoping that 09 CB Riedl of BVB U17 can breakthrough BVB 1st team over Benkara and Meiser tbh.

 

06 RB Bulut of 2BL S04 looks on course towards either 1BL Stuttgart or Freiburg.
https://www.ligainsider.de/taylan-b...-buhlen-um-schalke-juwel-taylan-bulut-377211/

becoming more evident that next U21 cycle RBs will likely end up between Baum+Bulut at this point, as usual, any 1BL player will have the edge.

 

Some injury comeback progress for two promising M's, Raimund is back on the grass training individually at Stuttgart and Swider is back in light training at Gladbach.

 

feels like a wasted season for both players. Hopefully they get real chances next season, not expecting much in last 2 matches of season.

question mark for Raimund is what happens if Stuttgart II gets relegated? Does he get 1st team chances or loan?

Stuttgart is a club that continues to do 0 integration and Gladbach always yaps about wanting more integration but tend to do almost nothing.

 

Kompany on the youth players: "Our talents have done so well, they're now all in the semifinals of their respective leagues. We want to support that as well. That means although some of them were able to get some game time [with the first team], it's now important for the Campus that they win titles together, like the women's team has done and like we've done. Because of that, we'll probably let the boys play [for their youth teams] this weekend"

nothing as ever beats the dumbassary of German footy.

even in irrelevant matches
Youth Trophies>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1st team chances



I'm sorry WTF does winning titles together in youth footy matter when almost (or all of it could easily happen too, LMAO) the entire U17 and U19 won't ever make the 1st team, LULZ. They keep making up shit every season concerning youth trophies.

 

-all but confirmed that 06 RB von der Hitz is bailing from Koln and headed to 2BL FCN.
https://www.liga-zwei.de/1-fc-nuernberg-wohl-alles-klar-mit-justin-von-der-hitz/

-After 06 W Malanga from 3rd Liga Stuttgart II has been linked with 2BL Elversberg now another 2 Stuttgart II players linked with 2BL Furth in 05 GK Seimen (also linked with Kiel) and 05 W Boakye. LOL been saying for ages that Furth should go after Seimen too!!!

at this point feels like every promising German youth from Stuttgart II is gonna bail. How long until 03 CF Kastanaras, 05 M Ulrich, 05 M di Benedetto also get linked with OUT.

Been saying all season Stuttgart II in 3rd Liga has made 0 difference to 1st team chances.....
https://www.kicker.de/fuerth-hat-vfb-talente-seimen-und-boakye-im-auge-1117251/artikel

-05 GK Jager signs pro contract at 1BL Augsburg.

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2BL FCN going full on youth today
-XI=02 CB Gruber, 05 CB Drexler (on loan), 05 LB Yilmaz (poached, on loan), 05 M Jander, 05 W/RB Janisch, 03 M Jander

damn, 4 05s in XI.
Players like 03 M Castrop and 05 W Forkel look injured too.

-Bench=06 M Osawe, 07 LB Porstner (bench debut), 07 CF Chiumento (bench debut), 08 CF Kusanovic (bench debut, poached.....interesting so he's German dual. For longest time he was only listed as Croatian. For FCN U17 he's scored 27 goals in 22 games and for Croatia U17 he's scored 8 goals in 7 games too.)


this doesn't bode well for 04 CF Obiogumu and 05 CF Scobel of FCN II when players who are 2-4 years younger jump ahead in pecking order to 1st team bench over them.

interesting to see since Obiogumu has
11 goals and 7 assists 24 games in RL. He's the top scorer and top assister of FCN II too and even that makes 0 difference.

I mean even during post Winter break the 2 younger CFs were ahead of him in terms of 1st team training too.

not saying I disagree, the 2 younger do have more potential but always sucks when a club has too many CF prospects and they can't all make the 1st team.

Obiogumu needs to consider bailing in Summer.

 

I have to laugh though who recalls when troll poster was bitching and crying about how shit the 07 CF Age group is and now recently

"U18 (2007) :
Denis Husser, Otto Stange, Luis Pick, Levin Chiumento, Artem Stepanov (DFB?) , Mekhi Gray"


what happened? I thought there was 0 07 CFs, incoming doomsday and nonstop crying.

been saying for ages that troll poster is a pessimistic flip flopping clown, LOL.

he's sooooooooo impatient and obsess over DFB call ups a indicator of things too, LMAO. He writes off players as 15-16 y/o too. He doesn't care about topic called dev, LOL.

whether I think the 07 CF pool is bigger or not, I won't say either. I ain't gonna fix or not fix his listings just to laugh at how he legit went from 0 to another point he was like all there is ONLY Husser and that is IT and now he goes from 1 name to 6.

 

troll poster's most recent CF update

U21 (2004-2005):

Keke Topp, Nelson Weiper, Dzenan Pejcinovic, Ilyas Ansah (LA?) , Nicolo Tresoldi, Damion Downs (USA?), Mohammad Mahmoud , Oliver Rölke (?)

U19 (2006):

Max Moerstedt, Paris Brunner (LA), Salim Musah, Levis Asanji

U18 (2007) :

Denis Husser, Otto Stange, Luis Pick, Levin Chiumento, Artem Stepanov (DFB?) , Mekhi Gray

U17 (2008) :

Alexander Staff, Niklas Hildebrandt, Noah Ringbeck, Tarek Zornic , Noah Birkenpesch , Niklas Gleich

U16 (2009) :

John Davis Meyer, Linus Thieler, Josef Haßfeld, Martin Hoffmann

U15 (2010) :

Bastian Assomo, Milo Barde, Lucas Vollrath, Daniel Abade

2011:

Mike Fahrenkamp (!!)




son, how does one go from 0 to 33 names????

every post of his on TM is him panicking about how Germany has 0 CFs but then lists numerous names. More funny is how he cries when he's like age group X is weak in CF......son when you have 33 names from 7 age groups (its far more than that, LMAO), WTF does it matter if age group X or Y is supposedly weak.

use your peanut brain, ALLLLL of these players are competiting with each other in the only level that counts aka SNT. You don't need 33 players for SNT, LMAO.

this is the same clown who used to attack me for saying that 02 and 04 CFs are loaded with prospects.........look at him listing 4 04s for U21 bracket. He used to pretend that all of those 04 didnt exist, then he only acknowledged Topp for a LONG Time and now he's at 4 names, LOL.

and reality, its obvious that there are missing names all round. Even if you have no knowledge one would know that there ain't only 1 name from 2011 for quick example.

also troll poster likes to write off players early and any player who he deems unworthy of CF even if they play there he will always try to ignore those players too.

 

08 M Kaba is on the 3rd Liga BVB II bench aka pro bench debut.

will be curious to see what clown BVB does next season with youth.

 

Lemperle with two crucial assists in Koln's huge comeback 2-1 win away v Nürnberg!

1-1
https://streamin.me/v/1e77464c

1-2
https://streamin.me/v/41b0e0b2

Both goals came from good pressing, does well to dispossess GK for winning goal.

 

yeah Lemperle who is bailing in Summer saved Koln. LOL at how Baumgart screwed him over at every chance and how Koln was making 0 efforts to extend until too late. Was never valued at Koln and has been one of their best players this season too.

-07 LB Porstner and 07 CF Chiumento both made 2BL/pro debuts.

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-05 CF Rolke of Hertha II just bagged his 10th of season. 1st season in adult footy and bags double digits.

 

It's wrong to write off such young players when there are plenty of recent examples of CF's reaching their potential in their mid to late 20's.

Also until players make pro breakthrough it's very hard to assess, so listing players who as young as 13-15 seems pointless. What is encouraging is how we are seeing a number of 04-06 starting to impress at pro level. We will hopefully see at least 6-7 of this list playing 1BL next season.

 

Dortmund II look in real danger of relegation. I guess it won't make much difference given how they tend to fill their team with average 3 Liga pros rather then actually promote their top talents.

Guys like Watjen and Kabar will hopefully get 1BL or at worst promoting chasing 2BL loans.

 

BVB II is pointless in 3rd Liga, 4 years in 3rd Liga has amounted to 0 breakthroughs, LOL. Also BVB when serious aka when NOT German youth LOL, they will make the players jump from U19 to 1st team. They've never valued the II team tbh.

and of course the winning goal from Stuttgart II came from a..........05 M Ulrich corner. The hero everytime, LOL.

05 GK Seimen keeps a crucial clean sheet too. Even kicker admitted that Stuttgart II would have been relegated ages ago if not for Seimen saving the time over and over.

like Seimen+Ulrich are on verge of singlehandly dragging Stuttgart II to surviving, LOL. Ulrich's return in Winter made all difference too.

I've said it like few months now that I prefer Stuttgart II in 3rd Liga over BVB II.

yeah Kabar+Watjen will likely bail if II is relegated, I'm not convinced they will get real chances so loan dumping is likely.

 

the problem with troll poster is that his whole assessment is basically based on how good of a header you have+how many duals you win.....that is it. He legit acts like no player will ever or has ever improved those aspects over time, LOL.

13-15=ignore them, honestly. In reality, U19-onwards is when you have a better idea of the players and their potential. So many fizzle once they hit U19, that just proves why U17 and under=irrelevant.

I'm curious to see how many 04-06 CFs will be in 2BL-1st Abroad next season. I'm sure U21 will ignore all them as yeah we are on track for like 6-7 in 1BL next season so those 1BL will be focus by default.Will be curious if actually # could be 8 in 1BL level, I think Moukoko+Moerstedt looking like the biggest question mark for next season. Does Moerstedt gets full on integration next season or not? I'm hoping he does.

reality whether 6 or 7 or 8, either way we've NEVER had 6-8 CFs in a U21 cycle playing 1BL from Day 1......usually its like 2-3 MAX. That's a HUGE JUMP.

 

in terms of CFs there is also the whole 07 CF Stange who is on track to go up to 1BL with 2BL HSV on track for promotion.

-speaking of CFs, according to kicker, its all but confirmed that 02 CF Scherhant is bailing from 2BL Hertha in Summer with 1BL Freiburg, Gladbach, Bremen all interested. Although Bremen seems least likely from 3.
https://www.kicker.de/jetzt-ist-alles-klar-scherhant-verlaesst-hertha-1117763/artikel#twfeed

-03 CB Riedel of 2BL Darmstadt where he's also captain is linked with 1BL Gladbach transfer, other 1BL clubs interested.
https://www.liga-zwei.de/darmstadt-98-clemens-riedel-ein-thema-in-moenchengladbach/

-03 GK Schenk who is 2BL Munster #1 continues to be linked with 1BL transfer.
https://www.liga-zwei.de/preussen-muenster-johannes-schenk-im-sommer-nicht-zu-halten/

-03 GK Bethke who is 3rd Liga EB #1 is linked with 1BL Union transfer.
https://www.berliner-kurier.de/unio...n-hat-schwolow-nachfolger-gefunden-li.2323446

 

EPL
-04 W Gruda scores his 1st EPL goal in 2-0 W. Recently had 2 assists in 3-2 W too, seems to be doing better. Hopefully he has a breakthrough next season.
https://streamin.me/v/43b442b1


1BL
-02 AM/W Nebel with a goal and assist in 4-1 W for Mainz

his assist for 3-0.
https://streamain.com/en/iYiALlaK3L8F1PG/watch

his 9th goal of season for 4-1, one off double digits. Assist by 05 CF Weiper too, with a great header assist and great finish too.
https://streamin.me/v/59fe3ae2

-05 AM/W Wanner (on loan) with assist in 3-0 W for Heidenheim
https://streamin.me/v/ef74ceb8

-02 RB Rosenboom scored his 2nd of season in 2-1 L for Kiel
https://streamain.com/en/ImFlNB8rGdIf92l/watch

-04 W Preu getting more and more game time at 1BL Union. Today played his 4th cap with longest usage at 27 min. 4 caps from mid-April to present too. Wonder if he'll play XI in last match of season and also what is plan for him next season.

-06 M Ouedraogo FINALLY made his bench comeback this weekend for Leipzig after LONG Term injury but unused. Hopefully plays next weekend.

Belgian 1st
-06 CF Brunner bagged his 3rd of season in 4-2 L and 4th goal in all competition. Not too bad given that he's not an XI and has had injury/fitness issues too. Needs a better transfer next season, too many clubs loan in players because they want players for the squad which has always been stupid. Young players go on loan to get game time, not in order to fill in a squad. If you want to fill in your squad you go after older players not ones playing their 1st ever pro season............

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2BL
-04 AM Damar (on loan) bags a brace and 9th of season in important 3-0 W for Elversberg.

his 8th of season for 2-0
https://streamin.me/v/78cfacc4

his 9th of season for 3-0
https://streamin.me/v/eb911848

-03 CF Schmidt on a roll recently with assist for 2-0 for FD
https://streamin.me/v/e4fffe74

-FINALLY, 06 W Affo makes his 2BL/pro debut as 5 min sub. Feels like he's been close for 3 seasons now, LOL.

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in some other news
1BL clubs Bochum and Kiel go down to 2BL.

for Kiel, I hope that 02 RB Rosenboom and 02 CF Harres get picked up by other 1BL clubs. Harres is already linked with 1BL-EPL clubs too. Sad to see how 03 CB Kleine-Bekel basically missed entire season to injury and no U21 Euro so is gonna be forced to go down.....

for Bochum, 03 CB Oermann is already linked with 1BL Bayer and other clubs too, so seems on track to avoid going down.A relegation to 2BL should be a boost to the little used 1st team players, the II players and the U19 players. Not going to list everyone but point is the path to 1st team should be easier.