Auf geht's, Jungs: German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. V

-Kicker 1BL XI=02 AM/W Nebel, 02 CF Woltemade
-Kicker 2BL XI=02 GK Gebhardt, 05 AM/W Krattenmacher, 02 W Futkeu, 04 CF Tresoldi

-1BL Hoffenheim coach is praising 06 CF Moerstedt and his qualities. Also called him a very good footballer too.
"Moerstedt and Bischof were involved in the goal. Max had a great impact when he came into the game," Ilzer concluded. "A finishing player who comes into the game has to do everything he can to improve the result," said Ilzer about Moerstedt. "He gave everything on the pitch to improve the result."

-on 02 RB Rosenboom who played his 2nd XI of season for 1BL Kiel in 2-0 L vs Leipzig. Hopefully establishes himself in XI for rest of season to then stay in 1BL when Kiel goes down.
https://www.kicker.de/auch-wenn-tas...-beschwoert-den-geist-der-ksv-1074342/artikel

-05 M Bischof of 1BL Hoffenheim interview
https://www.kicker.de/bischof-krise-kann-man-das-nicht-nennen-1074275/artikel

 

next series we went over the 1BL-2BL and RL CFs halfway through season.

Now its time for the foreign youth CFs in German Academy, the beloved every country ON DA PLANET has better CFs than Germany and better CF dev than Germany!!!! I listed TONS of CFs who all flopped and couldn't breakthrough but they are better than Germans!!!
Signed Troll Poster, LOL.

when was the last time a foreign youth CF brokethrough 1BL-2BL and I'm talking jumping from Academy Especially 1BL and not lets ignore the USA propaganda of Hoppe (flopped hard in U19-RL but S04 gave him 1st team chances regardless). A Sargent was always meant for 1st team even though he helped Bremen get relegated and helped Norwich get relegated, LOL. Now both Hoppe-Sargent in an attempt at dev/sell are lagging in Championship and already mid-20s, LOL. The BS of 1BL clubs is to dev/sell so many useless and terrible talents and other leagues ALWAYS fall for it, LOL.

lets ignore 07-Stepanov as he's a refugee to Germany and NOT a transfer.

who are the candidate that are BETTER than Germans aka they ARE ALL better!!!
-Slovenian 05 Potocnik=Koln sees him as a BIG CF talent but hasn't really done anything. Had better season last year in RL then this current and can only muster 2 goals in almost 1000 mins.....He's also behind young German CFs in Lemperle+Downs so there is no room for a 3rd young CF although might get chances for rest of 2024 on bench as Lemperle is out for 2024. But with transfer ban done in Winter 2025, Koln will no longer be forced to rely on young and will go transfer market which could block him even more. Lemperle+Downs are already full on breakthrough so have no worries.
-Portuguese 04 Pinto=Also at Koln and no real 1st prospect. Outscores Potocnik too but is less rated than him. We've seen this in past, lesser player outscorers more promising but even then will never get 1st chances. He's even further down the pecking order aka ain't happening unless mass injuries and club is desperate.
-Dutch 05 de Jong=has 1st team prospects at 2BL Paderborn although German Ansah jumped very fast to 1st team ahead of him too. Recently was benched in II and scored as many goals as German 05-Gleissner and our Gleissner is a bench aka 0 XIs, LOL. Imagine a sub only player scorers as much as you.
-Swiss 06 Boteli=Gladbach are like he's a HUGE talent, tons around Europe were interested in him but has yet to breakthrough 1st team and looks like okay II season so far although he's still U19 eligible for 1 more season and plays both. How long until they loan him out? Gladbach brought in Ranos who excelled in RL but don't do anything with him either. Boteli, Ranos, Fukada are likely all loan candidates. Gladbach is one of those 1BL clubs one doesn't breakthrough for realz in certain positions.
-Japanese 04 Fukada=guy is a shrimp who always seems to be back up to 1BL Gladbach 1st team, even has pro contract and played like 5 1BL caps last season but 0 this season. How long until he gets dumped on loan.
-French 05 Kalambayi=completely irrelevant player that Hoffenheim tried to force
-French 04 Mokwa=bagged double digits in RL for Hoff II........too bad that Germany's Moerstedt jumped ahead of him to 1st team, LOL
-Spanish 04 Mulele=struggled to establish himself at Hoff II and now clubless, like his 2 French buddies all 3 had Moerstedt jump over them, LOL.
-Turkey 05 Inanoglu=would be shocked if he's seen as a serious 1st team prospect for Frankfurt a club that is still more keen on higher level experience. The Collins, Brown, Uzun, Matanovic, Knauff (he also had some 1BL exp with BVB too) etc all had 2BL-3rd Liga experience MIN. And also Frankfurt has 3 promising 06-08 CFs on top of that too who are younger.

its funny as some of this lot actually did well in U19 but that shift higher hasn't panned out as amazingly. U19 is dumb shit anyways and bad overview of anything.

from this lot feels like Potocnik and Boteli are ones who get most hype and only 1/2 is in 1BL club. Which again shows that Foreign youth from Academy to 1BL either DOESN'T HAPPEN or super super super rarely aka once in blue moon these days.

there is reason why clubs are now going for foreign youth with relevant pro experienced players because they don't need to integrate and can then dev/sell them.

all I'm seeing is
Germans Lemperle, Downs, Ansah, Moerstedt moved ahead of almost everyone listed, LMAO.
9 players listed and 6/9 got overtaken by Germans. 2/9 are at Gladbach who doesn't have any relevant German CFs in II. 1/3 at Frankfurt with more promising/talented options who are younger.

but sure every foreign CF is BETTA!!!!!
hahaha, troll poster has been bitching about this for years and I've been debunking him for years and years, for what now, 6 years??? How many foreigner youth were better in what now feels like 30-50 players over the years, LULZ.

 

also troll poster's one of the best 05 CFs in Germany
05 CF Arize is now in Latvia 2nd division

with 1 goal in 7 games with 2 XIs.

lets be honest he's only
"one of best 05 CFs in Germany"

because he's 1.96m tall big/physical type and nothing more, LOL.

 

on 05 CF Pejcinovic om 2BL FD loan.

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After DFB award:
Strong goal from Fortuna's Pejcinovic

First there was the Fritz Walter Medal in silver, then Dezan Pejcinovic (19) crowned his day with his goal to make it 5-0 against Braunschweig.

DFB Vice President and Fortuna Düsseldorf Supervisory Board Member Peter Frymuth (67) presented the youth award before kick-off. Reason for the award: "It not only recognizes Pejcinovic's footballing class, but also his fair play, his team spirit and his social skills."

The young star scored 28 goals in 18 games in the A-Junior Bundesliga for Wolfsburg in the 2023/24 season, plus nine goals in nine U19 international matches. But he can also do it for Düsseldorf in the 2nd division!

"I'm happy to have scored again after a long time," said Pejcinovic with relief, who had been struggling for a long time with the after-effects of a broken foot in Wolfsburg. The Munich native then scored for the first time in the 2-1 win in Ulm in August. And shortly afterwards he injured his meniscus again: "I had to work, work again. So I'm all the more pleased that it worked again now."



where is my Moerstedt Fritz Walter medal, LOL.
Moukoko, Weiper, Pejcinovic, Brunner have all won whether Gold or Silver, only missing Moerstedt, LOL.

 

on 02 CB Scheller, 04 LB Zehnter, 04 CF Ansah, 07 M Engelns of 2BL Paderborn.

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where is 04 M Hansen (was regular XI prior to injury), 04 AM/W Baur (has been breakingthrough XI), 05 LB Bauerle (has played 3 caps this season with 1st team as sub).

what is ********ing dumb about Paderborn is them upping Old Man 31 y/o Bravo-Sanchez to 1st team due to need in 1st team and giving this old fart like 3-4 caps....why? These clown clubs need to stop robbing young players chances for old farts that are only there to boost II not there for any 1st chances. I still remember Bremen and like 2 other clubs promoting the 30+ y/o to 1st team over young because they wanted experience....frick that lazy shit.

should have promoted 03 AM/W Brandt or 04 AM/W Zambrano instead. More stupid is that both Brandt+Zambrano BOTH individually outscored+Assisted Bravo-Sanchez too. So why is this irrelevant player the one with chances???


crazy to think that 2 years ago Paderborn had like 0 youth and now the 1st team is like HUGE amount of fixed in matchday squads.....

 

have to say its feels refreshing and nice not following U17-U19 anymore, LOL.

if anyone asks me about talents in U17-U19, I only know most players by reputation not watching. I don't know what anyone outside of Karl is doing and even him its more about fact that Bayern keeps him rotting in U17 when he should be playing in U19. He actually over weekend made his U19 debut and scored LOL.

U17-U19=pointless shit anyways, what matters is showings vs adults not youth trash.

also this season the new format is DREADFUL and I feel like it just makes the whole thing weak as ******** separating Germany into 8 or more divisions......so dumb at least when it was 3 divisions it had the better teams together and made things harder.

like take flop Bayern U19, they are currently #1 in their division when most of times in past soooooo many years they mostly flopped to top Sud/Sudwest, LMAO. Usually Mainz, Hoffenheim, Stuttgart etc were better than Bayern but now none of these clubs are in same league.

given how weak these divisions are, any and all U17-U19 stats=IRRELEVANT.

 

What do you think of the Swedish CF talent Bayern bought? They paid 4.5M for him. They're hoping he develops into a top striker. '07 Jonah Kusi-Asare is 196cm tall(6ft5in).

It's difficult for young strikers(no matter what nationality they are) to make the breakthrough in the Bundesliga even though German teams have a reputation for giving attacking players a lot of space and being very poor defensively. Osimhen struggled to make the breakthrough as a teenager but then has had a successful career abroad. Zirkzee also struggled in Germany but had success at Anderlecht and Bologna and moved to Man Utd for 42.5M euros this summer. United fans don't seem to think he's good enough for them though but nevertheless he's having a relatively successful career as he's getting older.

 

Yeah youth footy is pointless to watch in this system, way too many easy matches. Tbh I always found youth club matches pretty boring anyway, they lack the intensity of adult football which is why it's stupid how many German clubs keep the more talented players there so long.

 

A lot of clubs play with a 1 CF system, and often a pretty physical one. Makes it tough for the most youth CF's especially the smaller ones to break through, or they get shifted out wide.

The good thing is we do have a lot of up and coming CF prospects that have the attributes to play as a lone CF, now it's about trusting them. Things look promising for Moerstedt, it's frustrating how both Weiper and now Topp were looking well placed for full integration but injuries have affected that.

 

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Schmitt, Klanac, Ibrahimovic and Aseko all in Bayern CL squad. Will any get on the pitch? I guess best chance is Ibra although he has had 1 minute in the 1BL so far this season since returning to fitness.

Would be interesting if Peretz had to get subbed or something, would mean a debut in goal in a CL match for one of the teenage GK's!

 

no point in thinking anything, its Bayern, LOL. Zirkzee didn't make it even with him scoring and people hyping as a player who will breakthrough while I said from day 1 he's NOT making it long term and got TONS of shit for it by Bayern fans and troll poster and I was right, LOL. I saw all the holes in young Zirkzee's game very very early on and Bayern is a club that wants established CFs and World Class-Elite ones who have that exp who can win them CLs and trophies. And clubs like that don't see young players as answer in general. Even Haaland brokethrough Salzburg before BVB before City. And he went to BVB because they play young CFs at the time, he had the pro experience and with BVB in CL he can showcase himself to other top clubs. Barca dumping Brazil 05-Roque on loan, how long until Madrid dumps 06-Endrick on loan? The clubs are the worst if you lack that real experience. I haven't seen Kusi-Asare enough to say anything as I don't bother with Bayern II anymore. My last Bayern II match I watched was last season. Might check them out again next season IF they get 3rd Liga Promotion.

Bayern payed $30M for Tel, LOL so $4.5M doesn't mean anything and he's struggling and a loan dumping candidate. Bayern also doesn't seem to know what to do with him is he a CF or W. They only play him at CF when there is nobody else if Bayern brings in a new CF he could be shafted to perm as a W.

it was always difficult, the whole point of these posts are to shit on troll poster who says its easy and tried to prop up every single foreign youth CF he can find to shit on Germans and in end like 99% of foreign youth CFs don't breakthrough 1BL from U19-RL. He just posts drivel to shit on Germans at every chance he can get.

 

there is also loads of pedestrian blunders that are only made in U19, LOL. Its hard to care too because good chunk of players your scoring on or defending won't ever make it as pros and they aren't adults either, so you get nothing from it.

find it funny, that DFB were like new format should make it easier for players to ditch U19 but doesn't seem to be case, LOL. Clubs are still forcing players in U17-U19 longer than they should.........entire U17-U19 has never been about dev tbh. Its always been a place to just park the young players and to win youth trophies.

 

-WOW, According to kicker, 1BL Hoffenheim is STRONGLY considering bringing in 02 CF/W Lemperle to 1BL THIS WINTER AND NOT SUMMER!!!! Damn we could get this fast another 02-onwards CF in 1BL. Would be our 7th CFs from 02-onwards in 1BL too.
https://www.kicker.de/eist-hoffenheim-lemperle-schon-im-winter-los-1074550/artikel

also other reports say that Koln thinking of potentially bringing in 2 CFs in Winter. 1 is likely to be a replacement for Lemperle IF he goes 1BL in Winter but do look likely to bring in min 1.

LOL
-Slovenian 05 Potocnik=Koln sees him as a BIG CF talent but hasn't really done anything. Had better season last year in RL then this current and can only muster 2 goals in almost 1000 mins.....He's also behind young German CFs in Lemperle+Downs so there is no room for a 3rd young CF although might get chances for rest of 2024 on bench as Lemperle is out for 2024. But with transfer ban done in Winter 2025, Koln will no longer be forced to rely on young and will go transfer market which could block him even more. Lemperle+Downs are already full on breakthrough so have no worries.

-07 M Swider on track for 1BL Gladbach pro contract to be signed in January 2025.
https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/...lohnt-gladbach-juwel-675714219c73a41149420c94

-update on 03 LB Netz

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what's cool about 1BL CFs
Beier, Woltemade, Harres, Lemperle (MAYBE in Winter), Topp, Weiper, Moerstedt

6/7=FULL GERMANS, no need to worry about poaching.
Weiper is odd man out.

Moukoko is perm capped because he played like 1-2 mins at WC22, so we don't need to worry about him ever getting poached. One of the only good things Flick did as coach, LMAO.

the dual worry is
Weiper, Pejcinovic, Tresoldi, Ansah, Downs, Mahmoud, Scherhant (no idea what his duality is), Brunner as of now aka ignoring 3rd Liga and under duals.

Brunner is not really an issue for one he's U21 eligible until 2029 and because his duality Congo is an irrelevant NT that don't qualify for WCs like ever.

Mahmoud+Scherhant wouldn't feel like huge Ls because neither would make any squads for YNT anyways and potential wise they aren't better than others. Scherhant is almost done with his U21 cycle too and he's a depth option only.

real issue are
Weiper, Pejcinovic, Tresoldi, Downs, Ansah. Ain't no way Germany can perm cap 5/5.

Like who here will get PISSED when potentially left out of next U21 cycle, YIKES.
And USA who cant dev anything themselves will likely soon enough especially if he goes to 1BL push to poach Downs. Downs is the one I'm iffy about because I don't really trust German-Americans, almost all opportunistic. Like even when he plays Germany U20, he's still yaps about how he could still play for USA, doesn't come off like someone fully focused on Germany but one who plays BASED ON CONVENIANCE......not really out of desire, he also went Germany after USA left him out of Olympics. I don't see him as someone who will be happy if left out by DFB......

Tresoldi could be easier to keep around because his duality is Italy-Argentina. Italy has their own CF talents like 05-Esposito, Kean, Camarda etc. So might never be room for him there but if he has a breakout 1BL season who knows if Italy would come knocking or not.

I don't think Ansah is more talented than others either and still on the raw side of things. So he's least likely tbh. Would be surprising if we keep him long term and Ghana doesn't come pouncing once he's in 1BL.....

its one of those DFB will have to prioritize who they want to perm cap tie aka who should they focus on U21 with VIEW OF SNT with and rest will be risk of poaching. I think whatever happens that Pejcinovic+Weiper need to be in U21 next cycle. Its good that Weiper is in 1BL, hopefully has breakthrough season the full on breakthrough next season and that Pejcinovic now that fully fit has good 2BL loan and returns next season to breakthrough 1BL.

the real thing is that for next cycle
-Topp, Weiper=1BL
-Pejcinovic, Tresoldi, Ansah, Downs=knocking on 1BL door for next season
-Moukoko=unknown what's next
-players like Copado, Mahmoud, ones from 3rd Liga-RL more likely to end up in 2BL.

so yeah there's gonna be loads of competition. And even in that prior, I ignored that Topp is also a contender for U21 next cycle and he himself could block a dual from making the squad, LOL.....and imagine Moerstedt has a full on breakthrough would also jump as contender and could block duals, LOL. Its a HUGE question mark, I do hope DFB leaves out Moerstedt and lets him play for his own age group. I don't think its smart to block duals, since 04-05 CFs have TONS of options, don't ruin that by shoving a 06.

but would be funny if we had Weiper, Pejcinovic, Moerstedt, Topp all called up next cycle 4 Giants and ALL skilled too.. I do hope we manage to keep Tresoldi too, a LOT see him as Suarez like player too. Has shown interesting potential for Germany U21 this cycle too.

 

Yeah I mean it's pretty reassuring to know that even if every dual CF ditched we would still have good options.

Of the duals I really hope we can keep Weiper and Brunner, I also really like Tresoldi and Pejcinovic. My guess is the majority of others will get poached. That's before you even start looking at all the dual 07/08 CF's lol. Especially if Stepanov becomes an option.

 

sorry for long post.

yeah I agree, I also think the general consensus between you, me, the fans who FULLY follow the youth players and DFB itself is that these 4 are the ones to focus on. I mean in terms of package, skills, talent, potential, these have a LOT to offer. So yeah everyone else will end up being poached. Sucks but you can't win them all.

I believe those same fans seem high on Beier, Woltemade, Moukoko, Topp, Moerstedt. Lemperle feels like one that is 50-50 for almost everyone will admit his future is likely only depth option, which is fine, that too is important.

I mean Di Salvo is one who convinced Tresoldi to play DFB cough 2 German-Italians cough, LOL.And he's been his greatest sponsor and there are plenty of indications that DFB rates him highly as well. He's also grateful to the DFB for rating him and giving him chance and that he has TONS of fun playing for Germany. Due to this, he does feel a strong attachment to Germany. Believe its also because Germany saw his potential before Italy ever did that boosts towards Germany. By time Italy showed some interest towards him, too late, already with Germany. At this time he's ONLY going Italy if SNT calls not any YNT and even then its likely a toss up between Germany and Italy if it does come down to that. I don't think he's interested in Argentina from the 3.

then add that Brunner, Weiper, Pejcinovic have all been rewarded by DFB with Fritz Walter medals something that even Matanovic, Asllani, Gedikli etc who are interesting/promising and poached never received. Its shows that DFB sees all 3 as having potential to make SNT and want to promote their talent and show them that they are highly rated at DFB. This will likely derail any potential ditching from the 3. If they think they have future to make Germany SNT, they are more likely to stick it out. And reality they do have SNT potential too. I recall not over weekend when Pejcinovic received his medal but when it was first announced months ago, that he was super happy to win it and that for him it was a HUGE honor and saw it as incentive that he is on right track.

I don't see such interest towards Ansah, Downs, Scherhant, Mahmoud etc from DFB. DFB never really cared about any of them until they brokethrough relevant pro footy. Mahmoud, DFB always preferred only calling up Pejcinovic alone over calling him up. For 05s in DFB POV its Weiper and Pejcinovic or BUST, they don't care about anyone else essentially. For 04s, DFB Called up every single CF to play except Ansah+Downs, LOL. I said it before but DFB tried out like almost 20 different 04 CFs over the years in YNT and those 2 only got called up when they brokethrough relevant pros for 1st time to U20. But even in U20 one can see that they shove aside Downs+Ansah to W or AM in order to accommodate, guess who? Pejcinovic and Weiper. So its clear who they are prioritizing already and now its only about them showing themselves at pro footy that's only thing left to do.

Thing about DFB they are easy to read and one can tell who they rate or not as well. But personally I don't like or care about DFB and rate players myself but in this case they got it right on who to focus on. Lets hope they focus on them come U21 too.


I know he's NOT gonna make SNT and never was going to make it. But its a shame that 06 CF Ramsak who won U17 Euro (was joint top scorer and all goals from bench too. 1st time ever a bench player wins top scorer, LOL) and U17 WC will all but likely be poached. Its a always a shame to see players who win trophies and played role in success leave down the line. Oh well at least he played role in helping us win our 1st EVER U17 WC and that trophy was always the MISSING one from our cabinet. I think Ramsak is all but likely the 1st dual from the double trophies that its all but likely won't make SNT. The rest is still open.

yeah.....07-onwards CFs=HUGE amount of duals. I'm disappointed in seeing in more recent times, it mentioned that 07 CF Husser who plays Germany YNT and played and impressed in 2BL H96 preseason and got high praise and seen as next CF to emerge from H96 Academy has been mentioned as being German-Pole, LOL. Like even ones, that one believes are full German are duals too.

reminds me I used to be excited when I thought that Weiper was full German only later on to find out his mother is Albanian. That is issue is that someone with German surname+German look it NEVER tells you anything about the mother........same with Wanner, German look and name but Austrian mother although in his case Austrians are Germans.

One + about 07s at least we got 2 German-Brazilians in Stange+Gaul Souza that won't get poached and both making pro or adult progress and no longer in Youth crap. It also pays to have duals from the rival countries as less risk of poaching than the B-F countries. I'm Glad we get to add Stange to pool without worry about poaching even if he's a dual. Troll poster can hate 04-Copado all he wants but as a German-Spaniard he ain't getting poached so another that we have no worries about.

 

according to Bild+ article no access, 02 AM/W Nebel of 1BL Mainz who seems to be having breakout season wants to make his way into Germany SNT call up.
https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/...-so-viele-dfb-juwele-675824f45a14524c9e5de3af

lets call him up at some point to perm cap tie him so that Ireland can't poach him. Imagine being eligible because 1/4 Grandparents is Irish.....so stupid. These are the type of eligibility that should be a no go. I do recall Ireland have scouted him in past but always said his focus in on Germany cough Ireland is last resort cough.

 

on topic of 07 CF Stepanov I can see why DFB is interested in him. I do think he could be the best or one of the best 07 CF in Germany. He has all the tools to make it as a pro and also 07 CFs overall aren't highly rated, its the usual for us, odd year birth=less # of promising CFs and even age birth=more # of promising CFs, LOL. Outside of him and Stange the rest are still lagging in U19 with Gaul Souza (although could end up in W long run) in RL, there could be 1-2 others in RL that I'm not aware of.

I think potential wise he has more potential than majority of the 90s-05 born too. Likely has more potential than Ansah, Downs, Scherhant, Mahmoud etc too.

the way things are going with Germany and CFs these days, almost all of our MOST talented and promising CFs are jumping to relevant pros SUPER FAST. The ones that are lesser tier level players are the ones who lag in 3rd Liga-RL. I'm ignoring the ones in U19 as they tend to be forced to play U19 to last second, LOL. And tbf, usually players might need to play 1-2 TOPS in RL but that needs to be it if you have talent you then jump to 2BL MIN from there, not lag in RL or jump to 3rd Liga. So ignore the 06-onwards but even then how many 06s are better them him or more potential if we ignore Brunner/Moerstedt? I mean one has to consider that he made his CL/pro debut this young for a club like Bayer, vast majority would never be given that chance at such a club that doesn't integrate.

yeah if Stepanov becomes a contender. Damn,
Beier, Woltemade, Lemperle, Moukoko, Topp, Tresoldi, Pejcinovic, Weiper, Moerstedt, Brunner, Stange, Stepanov

haha WHAT A POOL OF OPTIONS!!!!!!!
Nevermind the other 07s and 02-06 pool of players as well as the 08-onwards that would just increase the options/candidates.

 

recently in CL we saw debuts for
05 W Boakye, 06 W Malanga, 07 AM/W Onyeka, 07 AM/W Gebel

we are now wait for 05 AM/W Ibrahimovic, 06 M/W Jatta, 08 M/W Sakar in making their CL debuts. That's a LOT of AM/W from 05-08, LOL.

hopefully 05 M Aseko also makes his CL/pro debut today!!!!!!

 

Lets go!!!

05 AM/W Ibrahimovic with CL debut!!!!

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haha this isn't why I dont interact with Bayern fans outside bigsoccer, you can see how triggered they get when the players they like might not breakthrough.

this is about Australia's 06 W Irankunda

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I wasn't too impressed with him either during preseason and I also have massive doubts he'll make it at Bayern.

Bayern fans like BVB fans hype and prop up every non-German, LOL.

I think Bayern has numerous more promising AM/W players in Academy then him too.

 

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does this look like a club that will integrate? More show that Tel who was CF is getting THAT GERMAN SHOVE ASIDE TO THE W!!!!!

WELCOME TO GERMANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

France's most rated 05 CF aka Tel is getting shifted out of CF, LOL. Was coming since last season as he's rarely played at CF aka no trust. Only plays CFs when desperate and not when everyone is fit, sometimes even Muller and Moting (past) preferred in CF over him, LOL.

How long until Tel gets dumped on loan?

reality CF at Bayern=HUGE Waste of time, I loathe seeing any German CF at the club too. Faster 04-Wagner and 05-Unsold bail the better.

what's currently looking like for 05 CFs
-Most rated from Spain=Bravo at Serie A Udinese
-Most rated from France=Tel at Bayern.....for now and he barely plays. And too much W shafting too.
-Most rated from Italy=Esposito on Serie B loan that is currently a hit
-Most rated from Brazil=Roque currently dumped on La Liga loan after annoying Barca through his agent and not be happy at his game time after his transfer. He's also a shrimp too.
-Most rated from Germany=Weiper and Pejcinovic
-Most rated from Pengland, Portugal, Netherlands, Argentina=CRICKETS. Believe that Portugal had a 05 CF forgot his name who was breakingthrough Serie A but then got injured, currently in a FLOP Portugal 2nd division loan........

I'm curious are there any highly rated 05s from non-rivals? From what I've seen there 0 05 CFs taking any top 5 league by storm not even in Ligue 1 either. I don't even think I've seen any 1st Abroad levels with any 05 CFs doing anything either.


speaking of Spain they look to be doing worst this season
06-Guiu=their most promising 06 like a dolt went to Chelksi and doesn't even play, LOL. 04-Barbera=couldn't even manage 1 XI for Belgium 1st club at any point in time in any competition and now back at Barca B in Spanish 3rd division. He's a shrimp too, 05-Bravo=doing better than both but a bencher in Serie A, 04-Omorodion changed his name to Aghehowa=for some reason he had hit La Liga season last season and transfers to lower rated Portugal 1st, currently 2nd place in scoring table too. Everyone else from Spain is basically still roting in La Liga 2 and lower.

fun fact, only 3 Spanish 02-onwards have played La Liga this season. And the one who played the most of the 3 got shafted to the Ws.



one can see Spain's desperation when 00-Ruiz the Eternal youth player got SNT call up while playing in Portugal at the time and now 04-Aghehowa getting SNT call up and debut in November while playing in Portugal, why is Spain calling up Portugal 1st CFs? Ain't got anything better in higher level?

 

Spain's 04-Barbera is a funny case.

I recall ALL those ONLINE SCOUTING twitter accounts hyping him to moon. Ah he dominates for Barca U19, Barca in YL and did well for Spain U19.

I've seen him play twice
-1st time was vs Bayern U19 where he scored a hat trick
-2nd time was when he was a sub vs Germany U19 for like 20ish min or something. He was irrelevant, the D took him out of the game which we dominated but lost 1-0.

don't think I was impressed either time, LOL.

fastforward and he's NEVER been able to showcase himself for realz at relevant level. Just shows how pointless and dumb all this youth shit stuff really is. And youth statistics are pointless, focus on whole package and potential more then anything.

what's funny about all of this is that
the Bayern U19 game he played had 04-Copado lead the line for Bayern where he scored once and I recall played well in helping Bayern in that 3-3 D. Copado, Wanner, Ibra, Kabadayi made for a fun attacking 4 too although sadly we rarely ever saw them.

imagine Barbera was one of Spain's most rated/hyped Spanish 04 now in Spanish 3rd while Copado isn't one of Germany's most rated 04s and he's in 3rd Liga on loan. From the 2 so far, Copado is having more success, LOL.


which reminds me recently saw, again USA fans saying that 07 CF/W Fields a German-American who plays USA should get 1st team chances because he scored 11 goals in 11 games, LOL. I don't even watch U19 anymore, just quick look, few buttons and one sees that Fields played 5 XIs this season....... He's NOT even 1st choice player and people thinks he'll jump to 1st team. Like YIKES at how cringe people are and lured easily by statistics.

 

Adeyemi is fit again and making BVB squad for CL today. Would guess will be on bench.

 

haha, we have a new Wahling bro.

5 fricking footy bros
-95 A.Wahling=retired early in 2016 and now manager at KSC Youth Academy
-97 N.Wahling=currently in CPL aka Canada 1st division
-99 O.Wahling=currently in Austria 1st
-02 C.Wahling=currently in RL
-06 J.Wahling=currently captain of Hoffenheim U19

5/5 came from the KSC Academy too.

as of now the ceiling for the bros has been 2BL-1st Abroad level. Will J.Wahling also hit that ceiling or be 1st to end up in 1BL.

I believe this is biggest footy family I've seen from German footy POV. None ever hit as high as 5 because if you get 5 kids what's probability that 5/5 will be boys, LOL.