Auf geht's, Jungs: German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. V

when talking about BVB's shit track record for youth. Add another youth to list.

05 M Lubach is making his 3rd XI of season for 2BL FCN. So now after Bischof, Klemens (also CB) and Gruger we have our 4th 05 M who is breakingthrough relevant pro XIs too. Plenty of others are working their way through breakthroughs too.

funny part if Lubach had stayed and yes BVB wanted him to extend he likely would be on 3rd Liga BVB II bench because that II is rubbish with own youth.

now Lubach could by Summer 2026 end up in 1BL. This Summer is too early for upwards jump.

the reason why BVB is shit with youth isn't about 1st team its also because they sabotage their own youth at the II level too.

 

07 CF Stange makes his 2BL/pro debut as 12 min sub for HSV.

78'⏱ Erneuter Doppelwechsel 🔄

➡️ #Jatta, #Stange
⬅️ #Königsdörffer, #Balde
__
📻 https://t.co/xZOcUEks0h#EBSHSV 3:1#nurderHSV

— Hamburger SV (@HSV) November 8, 2024

getting loads of + reactions at how he hit the post and how he was better in 12 mins then entire attack combined.

remember this is a player that troll poster went from
-Stange is sooooo good
to
-Stange is rubbish, why can't Germany dev CFs etc

in span of like 2 months last season, LMAO.

now he's made his debut in relevant pros. Sometimes I do miss that clown just for the shits and giggles part, a flip flopping clown who always got triggered for not agreeing with his dumbass takes.

 

🚨🆕 Anton #Kade has scored two goals in the past two league games for FC Basel.

A departure of the 20y/o winger in the upcoming winter transfer window is possible, as his goal is to play in the Bundesliga.

There are already inquiries, and Basel is open to discussions. Price… pic.twitter.com/1nkwjzk0bK

— Florian Plettenberg (@Plettigoal) November 8, 2024

 

-02 CF Harres scores his 1st ever 1BL goal for Kiel to make it 1-1 vs Bremen.

PHIL HARRES DRAWS LEVEL WITH A GOLAZO!!!
MAX GESCHWILL ASSIST!
📽️ @GoalsXtrapic.twitter.com/eWorILNvJ4

— Football Report (@FootballReprt) November 9, 2024

-02 AM/W Nebel scores his 1st ever 1BL goal for Mainz to make it 3-1 vs BVB.
https://streamin.me/v/f3e33207


-04 CF Downs bagged his 5th of season and 1-0 Winner for 2BL Koln. On track for double digits in 2BL this season.

 

so 03 CB Luhrs who got screwed by 2BL H96 over and over and bailed in Summer to 3rd Liga BVB II, now makes his 1BL debut for BVB as 31 min sub, LOL.

59' | Three changes coming up. 🔄

➡️ Lührs - Couto - Malen
⬅️ Nmecha - Gittens - Beier#M05BVB 3-1

— Borussia Dortmund (@BlackYellow) November 9, 2024

 

06 LB Kabar plays his 2nd 1BL Cap for BVB as 16 min sub.

 

-04 CF Topp assisted 1BL Bremen's 2-1 Winning goal!!!
https://streamin.me/v/9d71f89d

last week he scored in trashing 4-1 L for the club and was only + thing and today he assisted the winner with great cross!!!

-back to back 1BL XI for 04 LB Ullrich looks like he'll cement himself at LB while 03 LB Netz is injured.

 

At least one positive takeaway from last night's match at Braunschweig: our youngster Otto #Stange made his debut and almost even scored shortly after entering the game. 👏

That whets the appetite for more - Let's go, Otto! 💯#nurderHSV pic.twitter.com/4nmz8AR9MO

— HSV English (@HSV_English) November 9, 2024

 

its interesting to see 07 relevant pro progress
-CF Stange=made his 2BL/pro debut on Friday for HSV
-AM/W Gebel,=2 caps in DFB Cups and looks like regular in matchday squads of 1BL Leipzig
-AM/W Onyeka=made debut in DFB Cup for 1BL Bayer. Recently been regular in matchday squads too.
-M Schmitz=regular on bench of 1BL Pauli, knocking on door for debut
-M Lum=has 3 2BL caps for Hertha
-M Engelns=brokethrough XI of 2BL Paderborn
-RB Pedrosa=made 2BL/pro debut for KSC

all of these players looking like either regulars in matchday squads or very recently became regulars in matchday squad. So far only 1/7 has yet to make pro debut.

how long until players like Licina, Swider, Sauck etc make pro debut?

 

Elias Baum scored his first pro goal to put Elversberg 1-0 up v Hannover.

https://dubz.co/c/b23d0b

 

same game which interesting to note, every scorer is a youth player, LOL.
1-0, 05 RB Baum on loan with 02 CF Asllani also on loan with assist
2-0, 02 CF Asllani scoring his 7th of season
3-0, 04 AM Damar on loan scoring his 3rd of season
3-1, 04 CF Tresoldi scoring his 2nd of season for H96

with Baum, Asllani, Damar=on all loan from 1BL and 2/3 are on loan from Hoffenheim. Shame to see that Asllani is poached, now we have back to back seasons in 2BL where youth CF with breakout season=poached, last season Matanovic this season its Asllani.

although Lemperle+Downs also looking like breakout 2BL season as well.

-04 AM Damar (on loan) scored the 3rd for 2BL Elversberg in their 3-1 W. His loan looking like a success, always in XI and finally finishing.
https://dubz.co/c/b42125

-04 CF Tresoldi scored his 2nd of season, no clip for 1-3 for 2BL H96.

 

3rd Liga Ingolstadt looking like a lot of youth breakthroughs this season
-04 LB Duhring, an ex BVB, I recall when he used to be a W too, with 7 XIs this season
-05 M Plath an ex Bayern with 4 XIs
-06 M Decker who gets called up to Germany U18, with his 3rd Liga/pro debut today as 20 min sub
-06 CF Zeitler with 2 goals and 1 assist while playing overall 2 XIs, scored today too. A player that numerous clubs in higher wanted too.

4 players in that 04-onwards grouping.

 

reality, RBs from 04-onwards are the most interesting lot with
04-Morgalla (alternates between XI and bench for Salzburg, so still working his way into regular XI), 04-Oliveira (2BL), 04-Eitschberger (3rd Liga XI loan), 04-Ba (2BL), 05-Baum (2BL XI on loan), 06-Bulut (2BL XI), 06-Moreira (EPL), 07-Pedrosa (2BL) etc.

rest have all played EPL-2BL-Austrian 1st this season and all working their way to breakthroughs.

Elias Baum (19, RB) is the most complete full-back in the 2. Bundesliga.

Will be starting for Frankfurt next season.

— Filly (@FillyLFC) November 10, 2024

I find it crazy how he still isn’t called up for U-21s while Thielmann starts at RB

— Bayern Fan (@Bayern_Fan12) November 10, 2024

 

What's happened with Izekor, already made his EL debut last year but nothing since.

 

mix of slow start to season+injured. Its a wait and see, I always prefer to see U19 to 1st team over U17 to 1st team because a lot of players look good in U17 but might fizzle in U19.

I think Bayer sees Onyeka as the player who has the most prospects to breakthrough the 1st team. Although the club has loads of talented 07 players, my bet its 0 or 1 who make the 1st team directly, the rest will either leave perm or end up on loan.

 

03 LB Brown+04 CB Collins BOTH in back to back 1BL XI for Frankfurt, 3 back to back XIs for Collins too as he was also XI for EL mid-week.

now confirmed that after
03-Netz and 04-Rothe that 03-Brown and 04-Ullrich are the next LBs to breakthrough 1BL XI too.

from ONLY Netz last season to now 4, a X4 jump and this is why I find the triggered reactions from troll poster, DFB, Media etc hilarious. They all act like every season we don't get new players emerging in every position. So trickiest to breakthrough in 1BL so far has been GK, RB, CB. CF are getting chances but to be 1st choice XI CF isn't easy.

the USA fans seem very keen on poaching Brown. LOL, USA could have a full squad of duals that could emerge in future after Tillman (poached) and Brown+Downs (both still with Germany). I think I've seen German-American players in every position from 02-onwards outside of RB.

 

03 LB Brown back to back 1BL XIs=back to back scoring, LOL.

Assist by 02 W Knauff for 2-0 lead.
https://streamin.me/v/7daa71db

we are soon gonna see 3/3 become regular XIs for 1BL Frankfurt!!!!!

 

04 AM/W Diehl back from injury plays 30 min sub for his 2nd 1BL cap of season for VFB.

 

02 CF Woltemade scores his 1st of season for 1BL Stuttgart in 2-3 L. Did good job at shielding the ball and finishing.
https://streamin.me/v/c1423743

Woltemade when used has been very efficient this season.
-2 goals in DFB Cup in 2 XIs, scoring in 2/2.
-1 goal in 1BL in 61 min subs in 5 caps
Total=3 goals in 210 mins and 1 goal every 70 mins of game time.

we are running out of 1BL-1st Abroad-2BL CFs who have yet to score in league play this season.

 

06 CM/AM Dardai who brokethrough 1BL Wolfsburg XI now scores his 1st ever 1BL and pro goal to give his club the 2-0 lead.
https://streamin.me/v/e25564e7

interesting to see how clubs who used to shit on German youth are now integrating.
-Frankfurt=integrating 3 German Youth+2 poached German Youth=5 total
-Wolfsburg=integrating 1 German Youth in 06 CM/AM Dardai................06 CB Odogu+06 AM/W Broger look close to 1st team too.
-Leipzig=integrating 1 German Youth in 06 M Ouedraogo has played every match since comeback from injury and another German Youth in 07 AM/W Gebel seems to be closing in on chances
-Bayer Leverkusen=1 German Youth in 07 AM/W Onyeka has made debut and has been regular on bench for awhile now. Will he breakthrough???

these 4 have been some of the worst clubs in 1BL for integration for a LONG LONG Time. 3/4 clubs listed have no II team and 1 revived it 2 years ago.

 

-Kicker 1BL XI=03 CB Oermann, 02 AM/W Nebel
-Kicker 2BL XI=05 RB Baum, 03 M Jander
-Kicker 3rd Liga XI=03 GK P.Schulze, 03 M Keidel, 03 W/CF Hettwer

-looks like 04 AM/W Diehl is likely to get more game time for 1BL Stuttgart.
"He was definitely a factor in this final phase," said Hoeneß afterwards. "He showed why we brought him in: he has speed, one-on-one qualities and is technically good at top speed."

Hoeneß: "It was a good performance"
With Diehl, who was substituted on when the score was 0-2 - or even 0-3, because Omar Marmoush converted a free kick directly just moments after he was brought on - Stuttgart almost managed to secure a point. As a dramatic finale to the match, Chris Führich's supposed goal to make it 3-3 was disallowed due to an offside position.

A bitter blow to the stomach for VfB, but that does not change the refreshing impression of Diehl: "It was a good performance from him." Hoeneß will be happy about the additional option for the offense, in which he will probably have to do without key player Jamie Leweling until December.

-03 CB Oermann gets praised by new 1BL Bochum coach Hecking.
Tim Oermann was also supposed to bring the speed component into the defense. He has obviously submitted an application for further appearances. "We don't want to single anyone out," said Hecking, "but Tim certainly played a very good game."

-04 LB Finkgrafe of 2BL Koln gets his 1st ever DFB call up as he replaces 04 W Kade in Germany U20.
https://www.kicker.de/der-naechste-...raefe-fuer-u-20-nachnominiert-1067085/artikel

-on 07 AM/W Onyeka of 1BL Bayer.

🇩🇪💎✨ | 𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐍𝐄𝐗𝐓 𝐁𝐀𝐘𝐄𝐑 𝐋𝐄𝐕𝐄𝐑𝐊𝐔𝐒𝐄𝐍 𝐒𝐔𝐏𝐄𝐑𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐑

🇩🇪 𝐅𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐢𝐬 𝐎𝐧𝐲𝐞𝐤𝐚 (𝟏𝟕)
🌐 AM
↕️ 1.86m
🛡️ Bayer Leverkusen 🇩🇪
🌟 Potential: 9.2/10

- Dribbling
- Agility
- Pace
- Vision
- Passing
- Pace
- Technique

He already made his debut for… pic.twitter.com/rEtRxWdzTK

— Rising Stars XI (@RisingStarXI) November 11, 2024

-Articles on 07 CF Stange getting praised for his 2BL HSV debut by numerous people including ex Dutch player Rafael van der Vaart.
https://www.kicker.de/hsv-lichtblick-stange-wild-und-unorthodox-1067081/artikel
https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/...-sogar-van-der-vaart-67309f36296cdb71a1e0d085

-Germany U21 coach Di Salvo is watching 2BL FCN's 03 M Jander.
https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/...er-zur-deutschen-u21-6730d9a1048fa103a43c558c

-04 CF Tresoldi was only + thing in 2BL H96's L over weekend.
https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/...-mich-war-es-wichtig-6731d9c7781ba6172e9a66d6

 

Germany U21 update
-OUT=CB Mbi, M Bischof, AM/W Nebel
-IN=CB Oermann, CB Beifus, M Castrop


shame no Bischof U21 debut....

 

Damn no Bischof is a shame. Nebel has been in good form recently too.

No Mbi could mean u21 debut for Collins?

 

crazy to think if 04 CB Gechter wasn't injured we could have gotten a U21 pairing of
Gechter+Collins like they used to play together.

next U21 cycle gonna be interesting with
04-Gechter (2BL XI when fit), 04-Collins (1BL XI), 04-Blank (Austrian 1st, working his way), 04-Bakatukanda (2BL working his way), 04-Quarshie (2BL working his way), 05-Buchmann, 05-Pauli (1BL XI), 05-Drexler (between 1BL XI and Bench), 05-Seidel (between 2BL XI and bench), 05-Munz (2BL working his way), 06-Jeltsch (2BL XI), 06-Wurm (2BL XI) etc

interesting to note that 05 DM/CB Klemens has been used at CB in past 2 matches for 2BL Hertha. Used to be CB then converted to DM now might be back at CB.

a 05 CB Hoffmann who is 3rd Liga loan XI could also become candidate next season too.

I'm curious to see how many will be 1BL next season too.
Drexler+Collins already in 1BL. If Gechter would stop being injured would already be in 1BL, still hoping he goes upwards in Summer. Pauli+Jeltsch are already attracting interest from 1BL level. Buchmann is huge question mark since he has yet to play this season, do hope he doesn't rot too long in RL with Bayern. What's likelihood he even breakthrough, feels like he'll be forced on loan, the earlier the better.

 

on topic of CB, its interesting to note that
-03 CB Riedel who was in 1BL last season with relegated 2BL Darmstadt, looks to be currently the club captain
-02 CB Gruber has been made 3rd Liga Verl captain. How long until Peru poaches him? LOL.