Auf geht's, Jungs: German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. V

Woltemade scores fantastic PK for 2-1 lead.

Foul drawn by Tresoldi.


so as of now
-U21 CFs=Beier scores, Tresoldi draws PK, Woltemade scores PK
-U20 CFs=Weiper with 2 goals and 1 assist, Ansah scores

CF Show, LOL.

bonus U19=Brunner with 1 goal and 1 assist in 2-1 comeback W vs Spain!!!!

next gen wave of CFs!!!!!

 

2-1 FT for U21

and we qualified as group winners but it was not a good game.

in fact entire qualifiers we always look lacking in numerous areas and Di Salvo continues to be blind and ignore the issues and nothing has changed.

I would be shocked if we win this U21 Euro.

 

If we fire Di Salvo (won't happen) and actually utilise our attacking strengths then maybe we could do something, but yeah I suspect that what's most likely is we will underachieve. I mean a team next summer potentially containing players like Wanner, Gruda, Moukoko, Adeyemi, Woltemade, Tresoldi etc as well as Röhl, Reitz and maybe Bischof and Weiper too should have a ton of attacking potency. But we always look somewhat disjointed in a lot of matches.

Still, at least we have qualified pretty easily. Good to see Beier score, hopefully he can do the same v Poland and carry that through to Dortmund.

 

we need more creativity (still feels like we have 0 creativity) and more direct dribbling. And yeah a huge amount of matches=disjointed all over the place.

Di Salvo is too old school tbh and is likely to blunder the tourney.

 

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on topic of CFs

This Season ONLY aka September-October

U21
-04 CF Tresoldi=3 goals and 1 assist in 3 games
-02 CF Woltemade=3 goals and 1 assist in 3 games
-02 CF Beier=1 goal in 1 game.............1st call up this International break due to change of new club and yet to establish himself at BVB.
-04 CF Topp=1 assist in 1 game.........absent this International break due to dental surgery

04 CF Moukoko due to new club has been left out by Di Salvo on purpose to focus on his career for now. LOL, we qualified without him, he did score 6 U21 goals last season though.

seems like every player so far is 1 goal/assist per match on average although we've played 0 rival teams.

U20
-05 CF Weiper=2 goals and 1 assist in 3 games
-04 CF Ansah=3 goals in 3 games
-05 CF Pejcinovic=1 goal in 2 games.............absent this International break due to being injured, although recall it was said should be back post break.
-04 CF Downs=0 goals in 3 games

not far off from the 1st 3 being 1 goal/assist per match as well outside of Downs. Do wonder how much of this is due to Downs playing his 1st ever DFB call up and not being used to playing with anyone prior. Here players tend to play 45 min usually before being subbed off so not always like huge amount of game time. These guys trashed Italy 3-0 W too!!!

U19
-06 CF Brunner=1 goal and 2 assists in 3 games
-06 CF Moerstedt=1 goal in 3 games
-06 CF Ramsak=0 goals in 3 games

here its interesting as we played 3/3 rival teams, so not easy peasy to score. And Ramsak is always sub only player.



1 thing I don't like and that was started by Kuntz is whole lets play TONS of CFs in XI.....like why do we play like this??? I recall when Kuntz was playing Nmecha, Berisha, Burkardt all together, LOL.

Imagine SNT, U21, U20, U19 ALL of them are playing between 2-3 CFs..........in XI out of 4 attacking positions.

U20 for example has been playing 3 CFs in XI this whole season.......usually Weiper in CF and Downs+Ansah playing AM or W. Could also be why Downs has 0 goals/assist because he plays CF at Koln but W at DFB.

same today with U21, with Tresoldi, Beier, Woltemade all in XI.

this is what happens when you have toooooo many CFs and you call them all up to NT.

I called it issue for ages, that from 04-onwards there are tooooooo many CFs, how does DFB intend on calling them all up.....they call them all up and play them in AM/W to fit them all. Some one is forced to call them up due to pesky dual issue but it feels problematic.

its also weird because from 02-onwards Germany is FINALLY dev loads of AM/W talent but they are getting shoved aside for CFs, LMAO.

This is likely one of reasons why U21 lacks creativity too as CFs in general aren't creative players. Having dribbling skills doesn't mean you are creative either.

although funny enough NONE of it have bitten us in ass playing too many CFs because the quality of the players is higher than ever.

and this issue will continue 100% being an issue when looking at 2027 U21 Euro Cycle of 04-05s.

what will DFB do with
04-Moukoko, 04-Topp, 04-Tresoldi, 04-Ansah, 04-Downs, 05-Weiper, 05-Pejcinovic, 05-Mahmoud......how long until both 06-Moerstedt+06-Brunner become U21 candidate, I would guess next season post U19. Same goes to the 04-06s who currently play in 3rd Liga-RL-U19 how many will jump to relevant pros come Summer 2025??? LOL.

 

For me the ideal scenario is, Nubel takes over from Neuer next season at Bayern, Seimen becomes no.1 at Stuttgart and Urbig either goes to Leverkusen, Leipzig or possibly even Dortmund if Kobel leaves.

 

Germany U17 trash Belarus 8-2 in 2nd U17 Euro Qualifier, LOL the inability to keep clean sheets.

XI=Trippel - Domnic, Palma, Hawighorst, Ünal - Karl, Kaba, Schnitzer - Güner, Staff, Mule.

Goals by Staff X2, Karl X2, Creta, Mule, Mensah, Gottlicher

last game is vs Czech who should be stronger than Andorra and Belarus.

 

Leipzig is unlikely they have that Belgian 02 that they want him to succeed Gulasci. Bayer with Hradecky being 35 y/o and soon enough will retire could be an opening there and BVB only works if Kobel leaves.

I'm curious to see who will take his spot at Koln next season. Same for Noll and Furth, lets hope we see 2 new young GKs emerge next season at those clubs.

but for us, seeing Seimen, Atubolu, Urbig all become 1BL #1s would be HUGE tbh. That # could be bigger if Noll and Backhaus also manage to become #1s at Hoffenheim and Bremen.

 

05 CB Telle is getting praised at 2BL Koln and could get more and more ingrained in 1st team.
https://geissblog.koeln/2024/10/coo...itter-feed&utm_campaign=cleverpush-1728720499

for Koln between
04 CB Bakatukanda, 05 CB Pauli (XI in 1st team) and 05 CB Telle we could see 3 CBs emerge from the club.

 

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"It is possible that Nagelsmann could give him his debut by the end of the season."


lets go soon enough we shall see
Wirtz, Musiala, Wanner, Gruda, Adeyemi in SNT.

how long until a Diehl and co also join in!!!!!!!

 

Suddenly with dad on the pitch:
Will Poldi's son soon be playing for Cologne too?

Poldi twice in the Cologne jersey. It was one of the most remarkable and impressive moments at the emotional thank-you and farewell game of FC legend Lukas Podolski (39) on Thursday in Cologne.

The world champion had his whole family with him, of course. Poldi's wife Monika watched from the stands with their daughters Maya (8) and Ella (1). Poldi's son Louis (16) was surprisingly on the pitch, kicking with his dad and the FC and World Cup legends and showing what he can do, before finally standing in front of the south curve with his father and enjoying the emotions.
The next Podolski on the big football stage. Will Poldi's son soon play for the FC?

Poldi Junior and Cologne - not so far-fetched! Because Louis Podolski not only carries the FC in his heart like his father. He also seems to have inherited what it takes to be a professional, his dad's ambition and his strong left foot.

Louis is currently playing in the U17 team of his father's Polish hometown club, Gornik Zabrze, and is part of the youth academy there. Like his dad, Poldi Junior is a strong offensive player, recently scored a hat trick in his team's 6:2 win on matchday 7 against Arka Gdynia and is being watched by many clubs.

This is what Poldi thinks about Louis' football future
According to BILD information, FC is also keeping a close eye on Louis' development. But what does dad think about his son? Does he see him at FC at some point in the future?

In the big BILD interview about his farewell game, Podolski said: "Let's see how he develops. It's up to him how intensively he wants to continue playing the sport or whether he will study at some point and just play football on the side."

Poldi continued: "Louis doesn't have a tattoo on his forehead saying 'Son of Podolski'. He's a completely normal boy, we raised him completely normally and he has a similar character to me. No, the name doesn't put pressure on him, nor does it help him. I always tell him: 'Go out and do your thing.'"

That's what Louis does. Like at his father's spectacular farewell game on Thursday in Cologne. Poldi Junior wore the number 36 on his FC jersey there, by the way. The number with which his dad also began his world career in Cologne.
https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/...lski-beim-1-fc-koeln-6708f8f9bcb9c020eaf3a464

 

although from German perspective
sons of random ex German players>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sons of ex Germany NT players
sons of foreign players who become German citizens>>>>>>>>>sons of ex Germany NT players

sadly this has always been case for us.

interesting to see that Klose's son
05 CF Klose is currently at
1 goal and 4 assists in 12 games for 1860 Munich II in 5th division. Will be curious to see if he ever ends up in 3rd Liga or not.

I don't think Klose II is seen as anything special just curious if he'll be a pro player or not.

while 05 CF Kuranyi is struggling in RL.....


crazy to think
back in mid-00s Germany's biggest CFs were Klose, Podolski, Kuranyi, Gomez

and now with Noah Klose, Louis Podolski, Karlo Kuranyi emerges 3/4 of the same names in similar ages of 16-19 y/o. Although me thinks none will be relevant tbh. Podolski is the real question mark since nobody follows his current career in Poland.

 

Wave of next gen GKs=******** them all.

our next #1!!!!! Call him up Nagelsmann!!!

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much more than that, LOL.

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-"i watched him enough now to say Lennart Karl has better ball control than Özil"
-"Lennart Karl is our Florian Wirtz"

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people need to STFU,
German media, DFB, troll poster have ALL said that Germany has 0 talents, incoming doomsday, minnows catching up, terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible age groups........so where the frick do people constantly highlights talents and pretend like we have any!!!

I'm a sheep who believes everything I'm told, so 0 is 0.

I know sometimes troll poster will say Germany has 0 talents then later on name like 20+ names but he's just under influence of temporary insanity. Same for DFB and the clown coaches who go against the status quo of 0 talents and dare pretend like the next gen have tons of promising players......yeah shut up, 0 is 0.

 

how long until BVB's M duo comprises of
06 M Watjen+08 M Kaba

 

LOL, does anyone want to tell him........that we have ZERO ZERO ZERO CFs. Don't look at me, German Media+DFB+expert troll poster all confirm it!!!!!

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"Superb young CF. One of the most complete young 9s in Europe for sure."

I mean he's one of our NUMEROUS next gen CFs who have complete CF potential and who all have interest all over Europe. There has never been this many next gen German CFs who have interest all over. Gonna be interesting to see how they all dev in future.

 

It's incredible how many CF's we are now developing. I take it the adjusted training techniques plus the re realisation by the DFB that CF is actually a specialist position, not one any versatile AM/W can be used in when needed, has maybe helped?

 

By the sound of it. The futures bright, the FUTURE IS GERMAN.

 

Forget Urbig, Atubolu, Ernst, Seimen etc, this kid is the next DFB no.1

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yeah the Fullkrug, Undav, Kleindienst, Burkardt etc are all just placeholders until the wave of next gen CFs are ready for the SNT.

what's coming has far far more potential then current crop.

well at least we have a current crop. I still recall when troll poster accused me of being a liar about wave of next gen CFs and also a liar for saying that the CF pool is increasing by season. Yeah lets ignore that for Euro 2020 the ONLY CF we had was Werner and that's it, a pool of 1, LMAO.

current pool could increase if players like Nmecha+Berisha get back into it more post long term injuries and if players like Pieringer+Breunig etc continue to pan out.

but the future belongs to next gen CFs who are all breakingthrough 1BL-2BL super fast and all of them have made themselves regulars in matchday squad and either brokethrough XI or getting very close.

even a poached by Croatia 03 CF Matanovic is finally making it, scored his 1st ever 1BL recently and this weekend scored his 1st ever Croatia SNT goal. Showing the different level of next gen CFs even if poached.

 

CF Glatzel looks out for months at 2BL HSV.

could be chance for 03 CF Sillah (8 goals in RL for HSV II) and/or 07 CF Stange (4 goals in 4 games for HSV U19).

both played in 1st team friendly vs Danish 1st club this weekend in 1-1 D. Stange drew a PK like 5 min after being subbed in and Glatzel flopped the PK shot which could have been winning goal.

 

04 RB Eitschberger with a cross sees 04 CF Ansah scoring on open net for 1-0 vs Ghana U20.

its interesting as Germany U20-U21 rarely aka almost never plays anyone outside of UEFA.

 

05 CF Weiper with a nice header for 2-0!!!!