Athletic Bilbao Vs. Real Madrid | La Liga Fixture 16 | Estadio San Mames | 04/12/24 21:00 CET

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  1. .halamadrid2.

    .halamadrid2. Member+

    Nov 5, 2010
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    Real Madrid
    But I think the takers are assigned though. When Vini is on the pitch it's he who gives the ball to others or takes them himself. Now it's Mbappe doing that. what you want perhaps is Jude swapping places with Mbappe and being in charge of taking penalties instead of Mbappe.
     
  2. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    this really isn't hard, CA simply needs to say Jude takes the penalties if he is on the pitch. If Jude isn't on the pitch he can say who he wants to do it, but it really shouldn't be the guy who lacks confidence.
     
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  3. Bear Crotch

    Bear Crotch Member+

    Jan 2, 2008
    Ohio, United States
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    No this is actually what the board and the coaching staff want. They want the guy who lacks confidence to take the penalties to see if it'll kick-start him
     
  4. Nir_O

    Nir_O BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Mar 16, 2019
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  5. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    this makes no sense, he's missing which only hurts his confidence, and making himself look selfish.
     
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  6. .halamadrid2.

    .halamadrid2. Member+

    Nov 5, 2010
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    Then we are in agreement.

    It's one thing what Carlo portrays in the media and another what we actually see on the pitch.

    Right now it's very clear that Mbappe is the assigned penalty taker.

    What we all want is for Jude to be the assigned penalty taker.

    I think that's what will happen now. We aren't QSG, Jude has probably got the penalty kick duties until Mbappe works up some level of form.
     
  7. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    I'll repeat, what manager wants to come here and embarrass himself with a squad that isn't complete and a CF that refuses to put in a shift? The only coach who would do that is someone who wants to get sacked and take a payout. We should stick with CA and hope he makes the adjustment -- assign penalty taker and put Mbappe on a much shorter leash.
     
  8. Nir_O

    Nir_O BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Mar 16, 2019
    0-0 was the result at Half time vs:
    Barca
    Liverpool
    Athletic Bilbao
    We are usually much better team in 2nd half then the 1st… most our goals are in the 2nd. Yet, this season nothing works
     
  9. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    Btw why take Ceballos off and keep Tchouameni on?
     
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  10. Nir_O

    Nir_O BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Mar 16, 2019
    I hope Carlo had the balls to play this starters:
    TC
    Fede - Asencio - Rudiger - Mendy
    Brahim - Cama - Jude
    Mbappe - Endrick - Vini
     
  11. boeder

    boeder Member+

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    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
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    #436 boeder, Dec 4, 2024
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    Because it was Tchouameni's first game after the 1 month injury..must play the full 90..because yeah..are you going to teach Carlo about subs when he's made +3,000?

    But riddle me this: why was a defensive LB introduced before the only attacker on the bench in a game that we were chasing and had to win?
     
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  12. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    I seriously doubt Tchouameni is 100%, Ceballos otoh has been doing well.
     
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  13. REALFOREVER

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    Dec 22, 2003

    Because Carlo is scared of his big name players and won't sub them off.
     
  14. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

    Real Madrid
    Mar 21, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    And Carlo has a bullshit answer im sure
     
  15. Açores57

    Açores57 Member+

    Oct 4, 2015
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    Clear as day this guy over marinated in Ligue 1. It's quite mind boggling the club didn't move on after 2022.
     
  16. Bear Crotch

    Bear Crotch Member+

    Jan 2, 2008
    Ohio, United States
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    Real Madrid
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    Next Cristiano. Trust.
     
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  17. MerlinRM

    MerlinRM Member+

    May 5, 2014
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    Brazil
    I missed the first half of the game so I'm rewatching lol.

    The subs especially were bizzare. I thought Ceballos played well.

    The reality is Carlo is on auto-pilot when it comes to subs. He isn't going to pull the guys he trusts even if they're not playing that great while guys like Ceballos and Fran are expendable.

    I thought Tchou should have came off especially since he just came back from injury.
     
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  18. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    #443 4x4s, Dec 4, 2024
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2024
    Every sofa stat graphic has multiple players cutting and cornering Fran, applying large amounts of pressure on him. Taking him off the game was the idea of unlocking that, having Athletic stick to man coverage there so the player that was constantly pulled to help Fran would have to do less of that.

    Right from the first minute Athletic attacked Fran as a weak spot just like teams did when Marcelo first started playing for us.


    Looking at the stats it was Bellingham that was relieving Fran Garcia.

    These are his touches while Fran Garcia is on the field:

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    This is after Fran Garcia is off:
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    Goes from focused on helping Fran Garcia to barely being there, scores a goal.
     
  19. madridismo

    madridismo Member+

    Feb 28, 2007
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Don’t understand the people calling for Carlo to be sacked. This guy is our most successful coach - arguably ever. In a 120+ year history.

    The squad he has been given is hopeless. On top of that he has 3 starters out with ACL injuries, no midfield conductor, and our best player injured. Our losses in the league have been to Barca at home and Athletic club away.

    Right now we just need to dig in while the going is tough, grind out wins, stay in touching distance for the league and next round of the CL. I hope when we have some starters back by Feb we are playing better football and also in a better position to judge Carlo’s season. I would extend him again if it were up to me.
     
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  20. benny_madridista

    Real Madrid
    Nov 30, 2020
    How would you know that?
    1. It's not merely about the results, it's also about the disgraceful cowardly football on display. These subpar performances were a problem even before 2 out of those 3 ACLs.
    We struggled a lot against Sociedad, Stuttgart and Mallorca, barely created anything against Atletico, and lost to Lille.
    You can't pin this on missing a particular midfield profile.
    2. Just LOL. If you like what you're seeing that's on you I guess.
     
  21. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
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    Real Madrid
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    Bahrain
    I'm sure this had nothing to do with going a goal down and Bellingham pushing to equalise.
     
  22. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Opta posted an image of three players hovering around Fran Garcia at the 5th minute of the game, with the caption "Athletic focusing on a weak spot".

    The majority of Fran Garcia's touches are those passes between him and Bellingham who constantly had to arrive back there to take pressure off of him.

    I'm not justifying or doing any kind of opinion thing here. It's clear Athletic focused heavy on Fran Garcia and others had to help him. When he got off the field it was addition by subtraction.
     
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  23. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    The thing people who want CA gone need to be able is his does the team improve? We have huge holes in the squad, a new coach won't change that.
     
  24. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    There is the logic that says when you fire a coach you either improve just by getting him out of the building, or you have somebody coming in that improves the picture right away.

    People are calling for Zidane, but Zizou had Pintus sacked/Pintus left to go to Inter (to great success I might add), will need a completely new training staff.

    Just too many moving parts for 5 to 6 months.

    Carlo will finish the season and somebody else might potentially take over before the club World cup.

    Can't see anything else unless we're hiring somebody from a youth team of ours
     
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  25. Ahmadi8

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    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
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    Real Madrid
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    Bahrain
    They might have targeted him because they know Mbappe isn't going to help him out in anyway.
     
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