It is still far for this to be determined, but there are 3 big clubs that are already looking shaky for the 2010-11 relegation. Here is how it looks after: CL10-F01 CL10-F16 CL10-F17 .
Huh... I don't get it, is that supposed to be how it'd look next season if the season finished today or how it's right now? If it's the latter that table is messed up. Also why are Estudiantes and Vélez highlighted? Also remember that for 2010/11 there could 3 or 4 different clubs not just 2...
Well, I'll answer one by one ... Yes. I know that there will be 2, 3 or even 4 ascensos. Nevertheless, the meaning of that table is to show what is the situation of all clubs in 1ra right now. For example, River (no pun intended). They have right now only 48 points. Even if both teams in red go down this year, and the rest of the 1ra teams remain, they would start in promocion and would pray for the newly promoted not to have good campaigns. It further shows you that River needs to start adding points ASAP because their situation is quite worrisome, even if the championship and the Libertadores are pretty much over mathematically half way thru the AP09. Want to further analyze? How serious can it be for River to face Huracan and Boca without any forwards? Or to defend all day yesterday? How is Gorosito's and now Astrada's set-up helping River in a situation in which they have never really been before (promocion)? They need to start getting 3 points and start looking at what teams like Independiente, Racing , Central, Argentinos and Godoy Cruz are doing. Games against those teams are FINALS. No jokes. Because even if there are 47 more games, to increase your averages takes a lot more for teams in 1ra than for newly promoted. As to the yellowed Estudiantes and Velez, never mind it in this table. They are meant for the Libertadores 2010 race. Just unhighlite them and highlited in fucsia the promocion teams. Do we agree? .
Yes i agree to some extent, the matter is that maybe it's too early to discuss this, because after all the possibility for River to have a troubled season with relegation could as well happen this season, is it remote? Perhaps, but if their situation remains the same and it doesn't improve... and for big clubs in general it's notable the situation of Racing this season, that and from the big clubs they were the only ones that had to play the promotion-relegation series recently.
Yes, of course it is early, yet the burden is already starting to be carried. Also, this also tells you the urgency for some teams to sign 4 players that can really change their face this coming January. It is notable that the Boca fans were already chanting promotion related songs yesterday ... .
Updated first post: AP09-F12 3 of Argentina's 5 biggest clubs are still among the last 5 for next year ... Independiente has barely escaped the group in pink ... while Racing finally won and distanced themselves from the group deeper in trouble. River, after earning an away win last round, lost at home and have earned 1 point in their last 3 home games. They travel to Rosario to face leaders Newells with the need to keep winning away from home. Notorious to see Huracan and Tigre already slipping back due to their poor performances this semester, while Arsenal has started to push away and is 5 points away from the pink zone. .
Updated the first post and deleted the round 11 chart as there were too many images ... you can still find that chart in this thread. AP09-F13 .
Racing and River are definetly playing la promocion or possibly get relegated (unless Grondonass has anything to say about it). Boca is in real danger also.
Racing temporally avoided it for now but they could very well play the promotion/relegation series again this season. Boca isn't doing that bad yet.
AP09-F17 ** Central and Colon have one more game played than the rest. Estudiantes has 2. River needs their President to be appointed ASAP and get their new signings as early as possible. The "red light" is ON. .
AP09-F18 ** Estudiantes and Colon have one more game played than the rest. . Important win for River to close in on the 8 clubs above them in the promedios: Atletico Tucuman, Godoy Cruz, Argentinos, Central, GELP, Huracan, Racing and now Tigre. Still in the red zone thou ... It was, indeed, a 6 point game with Racing. Perhaps the reason why the Racing dressing room was so upset last nite with the refereeing. .
It is still far for this to be determined, but there are 3 big clubs that are already looking shaky for the 2010-11 relegation. Here is how it looks after: AP09-F19 CL10-F01 .
Here is how it looks after: CL10-F02 **Banfield and Argentinos Jrs have one game less as their game for Round 2 was suspended after 7'. .
After: CL10-F03** **Banfield and Argentinos Jrs have one game less as their game for Round 2 was suspended after 7'. .
CL10-F05*** ***Banfield and Newells have one game less ... Argentinos has 2 games less. In this coming Round 6 there are 3 key games for this 2010-11 table: Gimnasia LP v River Arsenal v Chacarita Argentinos v Godoy Cruz All three games can be considered of "6 points" at this stage ... .