Aston Villa vs. The Arsenal, Saturday December 6, 2025, 1230 GMT

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by mebeSajid, Dec 3, 2025.

  1. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    Odegaard will lookk at the vide of this game (as will Arteta, and the coaches). He will see where he went wrong. Also, Rice was yelling at him to 'think' and will also have talked to him already. Rice is the unofficial captain on the pitch.

    The players will figure it out, especially Odegaard is my guess. He knows he hasn't been playing as well as he did a while back. He's not stupid. The pace of the attack was faster under Eze as the 10.

    We have a run of a few fairly easy games (compared to the last 4 or 5) for them to work out and not (hopefully) cost us.
     
  2. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    Brother, with all due respect, I have seen so many shit strikers at this club it don't take long for me to recognize one. Yung Gyok is cheeks. Get him outta here.
     
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  3. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    He's been underwhelming for sure.
     
  4. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    He had the worst "highlight" video I ever have seen. I'm not surprised.

    I never understood the hype, but I hadn't watched him play live, so I tried to be open-minded. I like him as a person though (not that I really know him) and like that he really wanted to be here, but he lacks quality. When people start talking about how your #9 "occupies defenders" and "works hard," you know that you're in trouble.

    I also don't understand why we went for a traditional #9 when it's obvious to me that we play better with a false 9, but that's a discussion for another day.
     
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  5. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    Guys, Odegaard >>> Eze centrally. He's the only creative midfielder we have. Give him a few games to get up to speed. His season has been very stop-start so far.
     
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  6. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I don’t know if it was hype or that we needed a different option

    I feel better about Gyokeres than Sesko in that the club didn’t give him a crazy outlay. I still think we go for someone like Julien Alvarez next summer.
     
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  7. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    I think Alvarez is exactly the type of player who would excel in this team.
     
  8. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    I can definitely see a strong argument against Gyokeres. I was fine with his effort and what he tried to until the Villa match.
    He was always a bit of a 18 yard box bully but he was doing the fall over thing and it was embarrassing.

    I hope Arteta has a talk with him about it. His strength and value to the attack in addition to scoring (which hasn't been much as we like) is to keep the center backs occupied. Its to force them to double on him to create space elsewhere.

    Hoping he plays at Brugge to redeem himself, hopefully get some goals to get his confidence up. Also play against Wolves which should be easier to score against them than most.
     
  9. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    Gyokores is a one trick pony, we need a versatile guy. The only players that currently fit what we do are Haaland, Alvarez, or Kane at the top level. Guys who can grow into it, I'm sure exist I just don't know them.
     
  10. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I missed that. Care to elaborate?
     
  11. leppercut

    leppercut Member+

    Oct 10, 2006
    SLC and Anchorage
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  12. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
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    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Listening to Handbrake Off pod and Adrian Clarke's & Amy Lawrence's takes on this game...

    Amy shared a (somewhat simplistic but hard to refute) comment she'd heard: that when our offense was at its peak of decimation earlier in the season, our defense stepped up and compensated, but Saturday when our central defense was at (peak?) decimation, our attack didn't return the favor.

    Adrian, who's not a half-bad analyst and watched this game twice, said we should've played more defensively but instead our attacking emphasis and our general openness just played into their hands. Also, he said he didn't think fatigue was a primary factor, but rather the tactical plan.

    So I guess Amy kinda puts the blame on the players, whereas Adrian puts it on the manager.

    Personally, I generally hate setting up conservatively, and believe in going for goals... multiples... unless maybe we're already up by 2 or 3. So, if Adrian's take is correct, I'm OK with the associated risk Mikel took.
     
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  13. leppercut

    leppercut Member+

    Oct 10, 2006
    SLC and Anchorage
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Scoring one goal with the midfielders and forward line we had is just simply not enough to beat Villa away
     
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  14. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    When is Harvertz due back?
     
  15. cooper7d7

    cooper7d7 Member+

    Feb 7, 2001
    CT
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Recently that Kai would be back before Xmas
    Don't recall the source
     
  16. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
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    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I heard recently he had another setback so now they're hoping for end of year, but that sounded a bit optimistic. Got the impression he's not even training with the team yet.
     
  17. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
  18. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
  19. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    For what we paid for Havertz and what we pay him in wages (I think 280k a week) we should have done so much better. My thoughts at the time was we would never get our money's worth but if he can score important goals (opening goal, tying goal or the winner) then I will be okay.

    We won't get our money's worth from Gyokeres either but if he scores the same important goals, it will be enough.

    I'd love to go in for Sesko in a year or two if Man Utd implode.

    Jesus will be gone either in January or the summer. The type of striker we should get is a tricky one.
     
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  20. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
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    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hmm. I definitely missed this at the time. Wonder if most fans would say that too?

    Decks definitely has reason to be pissed, but at the same time, this strikes me as a bit of anti-Odegaard, clickbaity, mountain-out-of-molehill, monday-morning-quarterbacking type of thing.

    But thanks for sharing nonetheless. :)
     
  21. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    The irony is that the same shit Rice was annoyed with Odegaard about he did, them dudes were mimicking the spiderman meme in real time on that last play.
     
  22. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    you gotta coach up players and the player has to be willing to improve or be a player who wants to improve
     

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