I like your answer, mostly. 3.4.1.e says "The player being replaced shall exit the field on the bench side unless the player is injured and unable to exit to that side." So who is the player being replaced? Is it the player that the sub says is supposed to go off or is it the player that the coach wants replaced? The NFHS book is built around there being an official scorer sitting at field level at the halfway line, recording subs, but I have done exactly one game where that was going on. I mentored a referee last night who wasn't making the replaced players get all of the way off the field before restarting the game. I suggested that, if he does that, a scenario as described above will inevitably be in his future. I will also note that, about once a week, I see the thrower wanting to take the throw very quickly, and it was understandable why they wanted to, because they were the one being replaced. They knew that the sub was a teammate who shares playing time with them.
It's the player who was on her way off the field when the referee restarted the game. Again, this kind of breaks because the rules assume the referee will not restart the game before the substitution procedure is complete (and that the referee will not beckon the substitute on before the player being replaced has left the field) but that's the most logical answer. You began a substitution procedure, the referee deemed it complete (pending the player taking the final steps off the field), that's it. Sarah can be subbed off on the next opportunity.
Meh. Given unlimited re-entry, and that the clock is running while the substitution is going on (and you're not stopping the clock at every substitution, are you?), as long as the substituted player is completely out of the "pack" and under the control of AR1, AND the player coming on is in position and ready for play, I'm good with starting play while the substituted player isn't *quite* off the field. I have yet (in more than 500 HS Varsity games) to have an issue. If the substituted player stops before leaving the field and tries to stay, I'll be yelling/signalling/trying to either get them off, or get play stopped, not that it's happened yet. I've had the player leaving the field realize that they weren't supposed to come out and get the correct substituted player, but it's before they've gotten out of the area of the players on the field. Feel free not to try that at home, but it's never been a problem for me.
My point is that there is nothing in the NFHS rules that identifies who is going to leave the game. The referee certainly can't say "No, you aren't the player who's leaving now." If anyone, that is within the power of the coach and, i this case, the coach wants someone else to come off.
Even worse, while I've never seen someone try it, there's nothing specific in the laws about running up to and past the ball without kicking it, looping back around, and then kicking it, as long as they don't stop and feint in the middle of an actual kick attempt. I'm sure we'd all look at it pretty weirdly, though.
So feint on the first run through and quickly loop back and take your shot. You'll probably get the keeper off the line and 100% confused plus some encroachment in the PA as well.
Or you could just kick the ball into the &$#@ goal. 80-90% of shots are scored. Hard to believe that these kind of hijinks increases those odds. Heck no. The player did something legal. We shouldn’t be looking for reasons to cancel it because we don’t like the style
Absolutely. Hopefully my post came off as a joke. I've point out the stupidity of all these tricks before. Just put the ball in the net and move onto your choreographed celebration for scoring one of the easiest shots in all of sports.
Thus the wink emoji. It's like people coming up with excuses for why the trick corner kick play isn't legal. When it doesn't really benefit them very much.
I've never understood why the kickers just doesn't run up and kick the ball as hard as they can right down the middle of the goal. The goalkeeper always divides to one side so why not just kick it straight at the goal?
This question comes from Cristian Roldan's quick thinking and quickly taken free kick which created the winning goal for the US against Australia on Tuesday night. What is the protocol/procedure about when to allow/not allow a quickly taken free kick? I've seen more than a few instances where the attacking player has tried to take a free kick quickly and the ref has blown the play dead.
When my son was the penalty taker for his high school team, he would just walk up to the ball. The goalkeeper would relax, thinking that he was just going to adjust the ball. Instead, my son would flick it, going for placement rather than power. It worked every time, but his coach took him off the assignment because it made him too nervous.
As a general concept, teams are free to take kicks quickly, other than penalty kicks or when a card is shown. Most of the time when you see a ref stop a quick kick, it is because the team is trying to take the kick from the wrong spot. The other reasons would be the ref is starting to give misconduct, the R wants to check on a possible injury, or the R feels he has already started managing distance or otherwise already become ceremonial.
Well said. I tell young referees that my rule of thumb is "if you have become involved in the restart - because you're talking to a player or setting a wall or just physically in the way - then tell the teams to wait for the whistle." It's far better to make a free kick ceremonial that maybe didn't need to be than it is to let a team score a quick free kick goal when the defending team is caught off guard because of the referee.
Good advice, but want to make sure some referees don't infer that referees should look for ways to make it ceremonial. The defenders screwed up by fouling...
New question. You've made 3 close calls in a row in favor of the same team. You're confident in each call but notice that the other team is starting to doubt your fairness. Do you take that into consideration in future calls? Is your answer different if you're not confident in 1 or more of the calls?
Yes and no is the answer. Do you look for something soft in the defensive end to give the team that didn't get the last few? Yes. Will it still be a foul? Yes. Would it be something you would call for a PK? Not necessarily.
Question... NCAA. Under 15 minutes left in 2nd half. 0 - 0. Should the clock stop for substitutions? Attended one game in that situation and the ref didn't stop the clock. Next game, same situation and the ref DID stop the clock. During the first game, I thought it's supposed to stop when it's tied, but guess not since the ref didn't stop it. Then in the second game when it did stop made me confused. Not that it should matter, but both games were conference games.
6.3.5 The timekeeper shall stop the clock when the referee signals for any of the following reasons: 6.3.5.4 When a substitute(s) from the leading team, or either team when the game is tied, is beckoned onto the field in the final 15 minutes of the second period or during any overtime period;
Thanks! That's what I was thinking, but doubted myself when the ref didn't stop the clock in the first game. And yes, I know there are times the ref will signal to stop the clock and the operator won't. I watch the ref.