AS Roma, the Sensi family, their debts, & the future

Discussion in 'AS Roma' started by DDR, Feb 1, 2008.

  1. DDR

    DDR Member+

    Jun 13, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Here is an article on the dire situation of the Sensi family:

    The Sensi family walking around with 370 million euros of debt, and has pretty much no option but to sell. The article also states that Jeff slack, an American that used to work marketing for Inter has prepared an offer which the Sensi family won't be able to refuse.
     
  2. Vulpinous

    Vulpinous Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 15, 2007
    Jersey Shore
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Re: Sensi family to sell Roma

    it is a shame that everything roma has been built around will now be corrupted by some rich foreigner who has no other idea than to land big stars and make money off their jerseys
     
  3. DDR

    DDR Member+

    Jun 13, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Re: Sensi family to sell Roma

    It's a bit early to say something like that, unless you personally know the guy. At the end of the day, it's safe to assume that the Sensi's care enough for this club that they will do everything in their power to put it in the right hands. So let's not all hop on the "Jump to Conclusions" mat at the same time.

    Also while the article doesn't lie about the debt of the Sensi family, it doesn't go into whether or not they have enough separate assest to sell that selling them would put them in a position where they could retain AS Roma.
     
  4. Forza_Totti

    Forza_Totti Member

    Oct 16, 2006
    Toronto
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Re: Sensi family to sell Roma

    Financially, Roma are in desperate need of new ownership. I believe the Sensi family did a great job with Roma and truly love the club. But, if they are in debt that much, then i completely understand that they must sell. I prefer they sell to an Italian owner, but as long as the person is financially stable and is willing to compete against Juve, Inter, Milan....i'm fine with whoever takes over.
     
  5. Vulpinous

    Vulpinous Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 15, 2007
    Jersey Shore
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Re: Sensi family to sell Roma

    I agree, I just don't want to see a Malcolm Glazer buy them
     
  6. praxis

    praxis Member

    Jul 11, 2005
    Ogden Ut
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Re: Sensi family to sell Roma

    Yeargh! They have been good stewards of the club. From someone whose hometown team (Real Salt Lake) is owned by someone only marginally interested in the team, I have first hand knowledge of how a team can tank by not hanving a loving hand guiding it. I hope they win the Italian lottery and can get back to where they are fiscally sound.
     
  7. Mosco

    Mosco Member+

    Dec 1, 2004
    Sun Valley, CA
    Re: Sensi family to sell Roma



    Man I am hoping Mexican millionaire George Vagara picks this up he was at one time gonna buy Malaga but Malaga wanted part ownership and they wanted to sell the club:rolleyes:
     
  8. danielmak

    danielmak Member

    Sep 26, 2004
    off the purple line
    Re: Sensi family to sell Roma

    I'm not a Man Utd fan, but I can say that despite all the concerns about the Glazer's motives, Utd. hasn't suffered one bit under these owners: they won the league last year, made it to the FA Cup final, made it to the 1/2 Final of the CL, and gave Sir Alex money to spend (keeping them in all three of the same competitions this year). Moreover, they have won with the team they own in the US. Compare that to Liverpool who are owned by a couple of hacks. If the Glazers could do with Roma what they have done with Utd., I would be very happy. Take care.
     
  9. Wolfbeatseagle

    Wolfbeatseagle Member+

    May 7, 2007
    The Bermuda Tetrahedron
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Sensi family to sell Roma

    It's funny that you think only someone from outside of Italy could be corrupt. Do you really think an owner like Mark Cuban wouldn't be better for Roma than the Sensis? An owner who puts people who know their football in the right positions and just signs checks would be way better than what we have now. The entire world of football is screwed up in some way thanks to the financial backing that is involved. We can either continue being underfunded and underachieving, or we can try something new. I hate Man U just as much as the next guy, but what is wrong with how the Glazer's run that club? They are marketed well, they have a jersey that people will wear and isn't skin tight, and they don't interfere with the football people. That's what we need, not someone who will drag the club down with them. I liked the Sensis until they became a liability financially.

    I wouldn't get my hopes up about the Sensis selling though.
     
  10. Forza_Totti

    Forza_Totti Member

    Oct 16, 2006
    Toronto
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Re: Sensi family to sell Roma

    More info on the alleged sale of the club.

     
  11. Forza_Totti

    Forza_Totti Member

    Oct 16, 2006
    Toronto
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Re: Sensi family to sell Roma

    Rosella insists the club will not be sold. How can you be in debt 200m???

     
  12. Mistaken_Identity

    Mistaken_Identity New Member

    Jan 17, 2008
    Re: Sensi family to sell Roma

    I am not in favor of new owners certainly not Hicks

    But it is frustrating to see Roma not go for the top quality players in the transfer market and have to settle for average players. In recent seasons we have bought Esposito, Pizarro and Vucinic who in all honesty aren't CL quality. When Juve went down to Serie B if we had the financial muscle we could have signed Buffon and maybe Trezseguet Ibra / Vieira. So in that sense if the new owner is gonna give Spalletti around 25 million euros every year for transfers then why not?

    I hope whatever is the best for the club happens and at this stage i feel Roma needs to spend and go for the top quality players in order to go to the next level and be considered as equal to Milan, Juve and Inter by the rest of europe. Ideally the Sensi family would fund the transfers but with this amount of debt its difficult to see that happening
     
  13. LupoAS

    LupoAS New Member

    Jul 23, 2007
    Texas
    Re: Sensi family to sell Roma

    Doesnt Roma, as a team and company basically, have to make enough money on their own in order to consider it a profitable investment?

    If thats correct, than there is no reason the Sensi's would sell unless they want to think individually and sell roma to get italpetroli out of debt...

    And furthermore, the reason why milan, inter, and other big top clubs CAN go after big names is because there teams bring in strong profits through marketing and they have rich ass owners.

    Am i right, or am i mistaken?
     
  14. DDR

    DDR Member+

    Jun 13, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Re: Sensi family to sell Roma

    I'm going to change the thread tittle to reflect the actual situation. I do have some good news.

    The last couple of days stock in AS Roma has been flying. It rose 14% on Monday, and was actually suspended so they could examine if there was any foul play. It rose again yesterday a bunch. Which has lead journalists in Italy to speculate that the Sensi family has a fairly solid plan for restructuring and paying off their debts. It's being reported that AS Roma would be able to pay 12 million Euros a year towards Italpetroli's debts. This seems to work for some of the debt collectors. It's also rumored that an offer is on the table to Italpetroli. This could work out well if Rosella could dump off Italpetroli and hang on to AS Roma.
     
  15. Wolfbeatseagle

    Wolfbeatseagle Member+

    May 7, 2007
    The Bermuda Tetrahedron
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: AS Roma, The Sensi family , Italpetroli, & their debts

    I'm really looking forward to Roma paying for the Sensi's debts. That sounds like the best thing for the club because we don't have any use for that 12 million.

    Every professional team has already sold out. As soon as teams puts Ads on the front of their jerseys they sold out. Milan, Inter, and Juventus are marketed and sold way more efficiently than Roma which is a big part of the reason those clubs are so profitable. The rich owners are nice, but they probably don't feel a thing when they make 90 million euro bids for Ronaldinho because of how much money goes into that club. If Roma had a more marketable brand, a website with more languages, and toured they would be up there with the other 3 big clubs in Italy. If Roma continue to have marginal marketing they will be left in the dust.

    Roma won't be soiled by a foreign owner or sell out. I don't care who they are, if they think and act in the best interest of the club they will be good for us. I don't think that ideal owner is in the Sensi family, or is Tom Hicks. As much as I hate the yankees, we need a Steinbrenner-esque owner. A guy who signs checks and lets the football people work their magic.

    I totally agree with Mistaken Indentity's thoughts on when Juve was sent down. I saw that as an oppurtunity to make a move. We didn't. We sat on the players we had and let players go elsewhere. That tells me the owners can't or won't work in the best interest of the club beyond their pride.
     
  16. MJM216

    MJM216 New Member

    Feb 28, 2008
    Re: AS Roma, The Sensi family , Italpetroli, & their debts

    Cant Italian clubs sell the naming rights to the stadium? i only know Roma's stadium as Stadio Olimpico. Is there some kind of law that wont let them?
     
  17. LupoAS

    LupoAS New Member

    Jul 23, 2007
    Texas
    Re: AS Roma, The Sensi family , Italpetroli, & their debts

    that cant happen. the stadio olimpico has wayyyy too much history to sell its naming rights. and i dont think they can anyway. the vatican wouldnt even let them. haha
     
  18. Wolfbeatseagle

    Wolfbeatseagle Member+

    May 7, 2007
    The Bermuda Tetrahedron
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: AS Roma, The Sensi family , Italpetroli, & their debts

    Now that I think about it. Only the US has their stadiums named after sponsors. It wouldn't feel right to have the Olimpico be Mercedes stadium or something like that. Olimpico is just fine. I would suggest tearing up the track to put in more seats, but that doesn't feel right either. The issue isn't the club's profit for the most part anyway. When you're making 80 million plus euro in profit you're doing ok, especially when you're marketed so poorly. They wouldn't even have to sign on with a mainstream kit like Nike or Adidas. They just need to not have their kit be skin tight. I'm in great shape, but I'm not wearing that Roma kit, I'll stick to last years. That very mentality I just noted is one reason why they're so poorly marketed.
     
  19. gazza

    gazza Member

    Dec 15, 2004
    Re: AS Roma, The Sensi family , Italpetroli, & their debts


    The Reebok
    Emirates Stadium

    There are many.
     
  20. Kenntak

    Kenntak New Member

    Jul 25, 2006
    Florida
    Re: AS Roma, The Sensi family , Italpetroli, & their debts


    The kit is great, I love the tighter jersey. Makes the team look somewhat unique. I much prefer it to those generic looking Nike jerseys that don't feel all that good.
     
  21. DDR

    DDR Member+

    Jun 13, 2006
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Re: AS Roma, The Sensi family , Italpetroli, & their debts

    You guys don't count, we all know you are sell outs. I mean heck the Coca Cola league. ;)
     
  22. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Re: AS Roma, The Sensi family , Italpetroli, & their debts

    Roma, or most clubs in Italy for that matter, can't sell stadium naming rights because the city owns the stadium, not the club. Almost all stadiums in Italy are owned by the cities (that's why most stadiums are named "Stadio Comunale" (Community Stadium) and then they lease the property to clubs on like 99 year leases. Therefore only the city can sell naming rights, which I highly doubt they will. The only way Roma could sell naming rights if they privately owned their own stadium.
     
  23. Forza_Totti

    Forza_Totti Member

    Oct 16, 2006
    Toronto
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Re: AS Roma, The Sensi family , Italpetroli, & their debts

    I don't know why anyone would want to change the name. The building is filled with heritage and the name represents all the history of the club and other events. It's a landmark.
     
  24. MJM216

    MJM216 New Member

    Feb 28, 2008
    Re: AS Roma, The Sensi family , Italpetroli, & their debts

    Thats not entirely true of the states. I cant think of too many NFL/MLB teams that own the stadium. The Ravens and the Orioles do not own the their current home stadiums. The city or state own the stadiums and lease its use to them here as well. However it is written in their leases that the teams have the ability to sell the naming rights. The Ravens have (M & T Bank Stadium) and the Orioles have chosen not to do so.

    I bet Roma could do it if they had an agreement to revise their lease to allow for it.
     
  25. Wolfbeatseagle

    Wolfbeatseagle Member+

    May 7, 2007
    The Bermuda Tetrahedron
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: AS Roma, The Sensi family , Italpetroli, & their debts

    Well, I'm just saying. People aren't going to buy that kit as much as they will the real madrids and chelseas of the world. I used to work at a store called Soccer American. We held Roma jerseys, and kids came in asking for them but would leave with some other club's shirt because the Roma kit was too tight for their liking or their parents wouldn't let them have it because it was too tight. I wouldn't have a Roma kit if last year's wasn't more loose. America and Asia are gold mines for clubs, and the biggest clubs acknowledge that and do marketing there. Are you telling me that Kappa can't make a looser kit at least as a replica? It would help a lot, but again profit isn't the issue, it's who is at the head of the club.
     

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