Arsenal vs Wolves (EPL) 13 Dec 2025

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by NorthBank, Dec 11, 2025.

  1. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does it? Seems one could just as easily interpret that as not having faith in Gyokeres like he does with Haaland.
     
  2. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    There needs to be more context and a wider angle to understand this play. The first option isn’t always the best option. Actually, most midfielders in this situation are told to “drive” into the free space to create a number advantage or to draw out a defender. That seems to be what Odegaard is doing - exploiting the space he has in front of him.

    If you recall the City game, Reijnders did the same thing. He had Doku open in a one-on-one position, but he kept the ball and drove at the defense instead. Halaand ended up run from behind into the space on Reijnders’ right, creating a 2 vs 1, which Reijnders played into, making it very difficult for Saliba to cover both players.

    Again, we need more information, but the decision tree doesn't seem straightforward based on the video that is presented.
     
  3. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    Occams razor. Arteta went after Sesko as his number one choice.
     
  4. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    My issues with Gyokeres are two fold: 1. If he makes a run and isn’t given the ball, he doesn't seem to know what to do next to lose his defender again. Sometimes, he’ll make a second run behind, but he doesn't seem to understand how to create a dilemma by coming short sometimes to get the ball to feet or to run behind or vice versa - chaining them together to make the CB lose to position or at least question whether to step forward or to stay behind. It seems like once he has his mind made up on how to attack the defender, he can’t adjust.

    2. He stays right next to the CBs when we are attacking. I think he thinks that he can beat them to a ball or a cross (and he does it enough, tbf), but he doesn’t seem to think how he can move the CB around. Kane stays offside until the last moments, stretching the CBs and keeping them looking for him. Other strikers drift along line, so the CBs (or back line) have to keep passing him on, which keeps them thinking. Gyokeres often just stands there, which makes him easier to mark. Halaand does the same thing, but he’s Halaand and rules do not seem to apply to him. Gyokeres isn’t clinical enough to be so stagnant.
     
  5. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    I am hoping and praying based on Arteta's reaction about the game and how we've been playing, we are going to see a shake up this weekend and a far more direct attack.
     
  6. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    This is what Transfer Flow had to say about this game:

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    Arsenal have been the best team in the world through the first half of the season. (We can say this because they beat the other candidate for the title head-to-head a few weeks ago). They also look like the most tired team in the world. These dudes are knackered.

    But the key to winning modern Premier Leagues is being able to win ugly, and my god, this was exactly that. Yes, Wolves were held to 3 shots and .20 xG, but everyone seems to do that to them. Arsenal clearly did not have legs to get the ball closer to goal, with 17 shots resulting in a paltry 1.08 themselves.

    And as noted above, if the Gunners had not won this, City would now be sitting in first. Cue the PTSD Title Trauma cut for Gooners — I’m sure that’s exactly what they want for Christmas.

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    A week of rest (and then another week after that - if anyone important plays in the Milk Cup, that's gross negligence), should help a bit. Rice, Zubimendi, Eze, and Saka all look absolutely gassed.
     
  7. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    as they’ve said a lot City rely totally on Haaland and have to hope he doesn’t get injured.
     
  8. leppercut

    leppercut Member+

    Oct 10, 2006
    SLC and Anchorage
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Benny Blanco out for a month
     
  9. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Coulda been worse, I suppose.
     
  10. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ajax just signed some Japanese free agent who supposedly can play several positions across the backline but especially right back. Wonder if we looked at him?
     
    InTheSun, cooper7d7 and leppercut repped this.
  11. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    Rice is a funny guy
     
  12. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    Our defense is been actually quite shambolic since our starting CBs went down. I watched United v Wolves, I'm fairly confident that no one would rate United. Yet they made Wolves look like the utter garbage that they are, this same Wolves looked like they would sneak out of the Emirates with all three points.

    More alarming to me is that we went 9,7,5,2, and now -2 on GD with City, but I'm probably just being negative and not seeing the bigger picture. So who knows
     
  13. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Many of us have NYT/Athletic accounts so feel free to link if easy. All that would be consistent with his post-match comments.

    But in that case I find it a bit baffling that a coach, and a coach who's as intense and active in-game as Mikel, would not have better luck getting his players to "cut that out!" over a whole 7 mins?

    As you can tell that period really pissed me off (see my posts at the time)... to a level that I rarely reach. So many of us (in this thread) "just knew" that inviting them into our final third was just not going to go well. I'm not sure I've fully gotten over it. Hopefully it was a terrific teaching/learning moment for this team.
     
  14. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, based on how he looked and walked off, I was thinking/hoping it was weeks not months. BUT that said, this is Ben White we're talking about here. The amount of time he's been unfit is starting to look a little Calvert-Lewin-ish (not looking at any data, so maybe they're not that close, but you get the point). DCL actually is on a really good run of fitness and goal-scoring, so maybe there's hope for old Benjamin.
     
  15. leppercut

    leppercut Member+

    Oct 10, 2006
    SLC and Anchorage
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. 6 ft. Leprechaun

    Dec 9, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Without Haaland, they're probably sitting midtable right now.
     
  17. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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