Worth pointing out that Arteta & Aubameyang have until now had an excellent relationship, and the player’s disappointment at missing out on such a big game is inevitable.Assuming all is forgotten, a good day for Arteta: laid down the law and got the result he needed.— gunnerblog (@gunnerblog) March 15, 2021
If true, not exactly the mature thing to do. Especially if you're a captain. It appears that Arteta took a principled yet risky decision to bench Auba. And on the day, it payed off. But given all the close calls that could've gone either way, he was certainly lucky that we came away with 3pts, thus largely avoiding the criticism that would've been heaped on him, had the ball not bounced our way as much as it did. Come to think of it, if we'd had lost or drawn, Auba too would've been in for more criticism... having let the team down. This may be a point of inflection, hopefully for the better. Only time will tell. Starting with Thursday.
I think you are getting this all wrong,I did not say it shouldn't have been a penalty, I said I was worried VAR would overturn the penalty.
No chance. The more iffy situation would've been if Oliver hadn't awarded it initially. Then, because of the very reasons you mention, I think there's a chance VAR (wrongly) doesn't overrule Oliver.
As I recall Arsenal were still trying to resign RVP when they signed Giroud. Both Giroud and Podolski were signed relatively early in the window, somewhat atypically, and Santi followed in August in an apparent attempt to mollify RVPs concerns about Arsenal’s ambition. Unfortunately, it had no impact on RVP. He would probably have had a field day playing off of Giroud’s knock downs and flicks.
Yes. I would even say it's a disingenuous argument. Quite often it's even a yellow card when a player clatters or leaves the sole of the boot in even when the ball is away. Cry more, sperz.
I think this is baaaad. Arteta has an absolutely terrible record of dealing with this stuff. Auba is good and (by all accounts) well-liked. Alienating him for this would be a huge mistake.
Sounds like a load of bullshit these players act like children, all will be forgotten when he bags again
The validity of the decision is not dependant on the result of the match. If our team captain can't show up on time for the biggest match of the season so far then deal with the consequences. There won't be any violins playing for you.
Yes and no. You & I, and I suspect a few others on this board, would agree that the rules apply to all, whatever your rank or value within the team, and if you break a rule you pay the consequences. But there are plenty of other people, perhaps the majority, who might be inclined to turn a blind eye on this, UNLESS there are negative consequences to the team or it's results. At which point a sizable mass of fans would be hating on one or both of these gents. I think it's a symptom of the extremely short-term, unprincipled, undisciplined thinking that goes on in modern society.
i actually think it was the correct decision. but there is a snarky side of me whose first thought was, "thank goodness aubameyang didn't take a trip halfway round the world in a pandemic. he might have been . . . . . . . . . . what? forced to play every game?"
To me, it is on a coach to set clear expectations and clear punishments for infractions. If it is clear that showing up late to meetings will be punished, the player has no one to be mad at but himself. If I was his teammate, I'd be pissed at the player and not the coach. If it isn't clear and the rules are applied arbitrarily, then the player kind of has a right to be pissed at his coach for benching him for a big derby. It was reported that Auba had been late to meetings before and this wasn't the first infraction. Did Arteta give him ample warnings? Or did he take a stand against actions that were previously acceptable?
this was the part i read why i supported the decision so wholeheartedly. apparently, he has been late before and missed a covid-19 testing before a euro trip.
So if Arteta said "if you are late again, I don't care if it is a cup final, I'm going to bench you", then Auba has no one to blame but himself. If Arteta said, "hey, try not to be late again" and Auba wasn't really punished, then Auba kinda has a reason to be pissed.
Ran across these somewhat damning stats from Orbinho Definition of self harm:Since August 2017 in the Premier League👉 Most Penalties conceded > Arsenal 23❌ Most Errors Leading to Goals > Arsenal 35🟥 Most Red Cards > Arsenal 14(9 under Mikel Arteta)And in season 2020-21⚽️ Joint-most own goals > Arsenal 3— Orbinho (@Orbinho) March 8, 2021
I'm sure the Sun or the Mirror will interview an expert in the differences between angry revving and joyful revving.
Exactly. Or an even closer analogy. In the September 2019 NLD, we all remember Xhaka's idiotic scything down of Son in the box. Well---watch the incident---Son gets the ball in the box, doesn't have a shooting option, so he plays a poor pass back towards the middle of the box. Pretty sure it doesn't reach its intended recipient but meanwhile locomotive Xhaka has sliced through him after the ball is gone. Ref immediately points to the spot, and I don't remember any of us complaining about it other than about Xhaka having another bout of idiocy.
Exactly, and if we lose because we didn't have his goals, absolutely no one would point the finger at Arteta. If you want to build good club culture, you have standards. This is holding our captain to them.
Gee who might be propping up these stats? Luiz presumably is the leader, but who else? Mustafi? Xhaka?