Arrowhead renovations (The Super Bowl, The Roof and everything in between)

Discussion in 'Sporting Kansas City' started by BenC1357, Mar 6, 2006.

  1. Merlin172

    Merlin172 Member

    Mar 16, 2000
    Kansas City, Kansas
    I'll say it again... yes, the designs show that. But they have absolutely NO idea how they're actually going to do it. Those are just drawings at this point. It's just artwork. It's not plans/blueprints. The architechts, designers, builders, etc. have no clue how they would climate-control the stadium. They've repeatedly said so.
     
  2. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's like a Science Fiction drawing, there aren't any actual plans for how to actually do it. Until there is a striaght idea on how to do it, it's all a pipe dream.
     
  3. Felixx219

    Felixx219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 8, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I wasnt aware of that. The video that I saw was supposedly made by an architectural firm and it seemed to show exactly how everything would fit together.
     
  4. Merlin172

    Merlin172 Member

    Mar 16, 2000
    Kansas City, Kansas
    Yeah, I've seen the same video... but it's all speculative artwork. Everybody "in the know" says they have zero idea of how they would actually do it.
     
  5. the_cyclones

    the_cyclones New Member

    Jul 26, 2004
    The Cauldron
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hasn't that made print somewhere? I swear I read it that they don't know how it will be accomplished... and I KNOW I have heard it said on 810... but then they are very highly biased against the vote anyway.
     
  6. Merlin172

    Merlin172 Member

    Mar 16, 2000
    Kansas City, Kansas
    I thought it had too... haven't spent any time looking for it though.
     
  7. Felixx219

    Felixx219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 8, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. BenC1357

    BenC1357 Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    KC
    Dude, engineers can make anything happen. Just ask them. :D

    Haven't you seem Modern Marvels and stuff like that on the History/Discovery channel? If they can make a 1 billion ton Tonka Truck run they can make a roof control the climate of a stadium. ;)
     
  9. IowaBoy

    IowaBoy Member

    Jul 23, 2003
    Des Moines
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sounds like surgeons.

    I personally enjoyed the program on making a ski hill/resort inside a mall somewhere in the Middle East (UAE maybe?).
     
  10. szazzy

    szazzy Member

    Apr 18, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    That exists, and you could take your family right now. It's actually a really impressive building to keep everything cold enough.
     
  11. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i'm a little surprised that over a quarter of the votes are wishing that the chiefs didn't even exist. i assume felixx prolly picked that one (a silly packers fan), and i'm pretty sure our friendly kopite did as well. who else speaks of such blasphemy? show yourselves and be ridiculed appropriately!
     
  12. Merlin172

    Merlin172 Member

    Mar 16, 2000
    Kansas City, Kansas

    Yes, I know... which is why I'm even more concerned about their statements saying they don't know how to do it!
     
  13. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. Felixx219

    Felixx219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 8, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey now, atleast my football team has won a playoff game in the last 13 years. Actually, they have won several and 2 NFC Championships along with a Super Bowl title.

    Anyway, I didnt vote at all actually. None of the selections fit my feeling on it.
     
  15. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    would two monkeys throwing fecalmatter at each other be closer to your feelings on it?
     
  16. egloverce

    egloverce New Member

    Jul 3, 2001
    Kansas
    Why in the world are they proposing spending $400 million on rennovations??
    Its driving me insane thinking about it.

    In Arizona they are building a landmark, a state of the art piece of architectural wonder. It will feature a rolling roof and a rolling turf. Thats right you can roll the field out to get some good sun/rain. And the price??? $355 million.

    http://www.stadiumsofnfl.com/future/CardinalsStadium.htm

    How can KC possible justify what they are planning? It makes NO sense. Replicate Arrowhead w/ all the upgrades out by the track. Put the Royals downtown. Move your attendance to your economic centers and profit from residual spending. Or stay in the hood with the status quo, polish the turds and lie awake dreaming and wishing of being a true big league city.

    My $0.02.
     
  17. PezJunkie

    PezJunkie Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Independence, MO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's what the team owners want...

    and since the owners are chipping in $12.50 and a bag of Doritos, I think we should give it to 'em.

    [/sarcasm]
     
  18. SamPierron

    SamPierron BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 30, 1998
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eh, renovate or re-build Arrowhead at HST and build baseball downtown. Most logical from my way of thinking.
     
  19. egloverce

    egloverce New Member

    Jul 3, 2001
    Kansas
    I love the scare tactics too.

    VOTE FOR THIS OR YOUR TEAMS WILL MOVE!!

    BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING!!

    Im in Wichita so Im watching from afar but I hope the voters are able to see through this steaming pile of BS.
     
  20. KCFutbol

    KCFutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 14, 2001
    Overland Park, KS
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not to take one side or the other, but Cardinals Stadium was bid in 2003. I'm not certain when in 2003 so I'll assume 4th quarter. Assuming the HST renovations could bid in the 1st quarter of 2007, that gives you an inflation rate of 29.46%. This is based on the Engineering News-Record inflation index plus an assumption of future inflation of 1.5% per quarter.

    This makes your $355 million project, $460 million.

    I'm just sayin'
     
  21. Steve DuBois

    Steve DuBois New Member

    Apr 19, 2000
    Lenexa, KS
    Emphatic no to both.

    The alleged "economic benefits" are, as always with sports stadia, a sideshow. The community could achieve a better rate of return on almost any other investment of the same funds.

    This boils down to yet another attempt to spend public money for private benefit. The voters have proven reluctant to do so, and that speaks well of our community, I think.
     
  22. KCWizMystic4Life

    KCWizMystic4Life New Member

    Dec 26, 2005
  23. szazzy

    szazzy Member

    Apr 18, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    What would be good for the Wizards? I'd think if the renovations pass it would be better for our situation.
     
  24. Village_Idiot

    Village_Idiot New Member

    Feb 26, 2004
    Prairie Village, KS
    Now that's a good question, one on which I've puzzled and puzzed till my puzzler was sore. The easy answer is that the two situations are unique and unlinked, but that's undoubtedly naive. My sense is that Jeff is probably right, but that if the renovations don't pass, all is not lost.
     

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