Arnaud signed to senior roster, five added to development squad

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  1. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
     
  2. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    I'm curious how the Wizards are allowed to keep Taly Goode on the books as a developmental player as he would appear to be too old.

    From MLS -

    Developmental Players (domestic or international): Each team will have six Developmental Players on its roster. The contracts for these players will not count against a team’s salary budget. In addition to Nike Project-40 signees, a team’s roster-protected players can only include those 23 years of age or younger during the season in question.

    http://mlsnet.com/about/regulations/

    According to both MLSnet and the Wizards site, Goode is too old to be a developmental player. His birthday is listed as 8.25.78, which would make him 24 right now and turning 25 this year.

    http://kcwizards.com/roster/players_individual.asp?ID=60

    By that criteria, I'm even sure how he was eligible to be a DP last year, let alone this season.

    What's the deal? Is there a different rule for GKs that isn't listed anywhere?
     
  3. Roush

    Roush Member

    Dec 19, 2001
    Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [sarcasm]It's listed in the "Super-secret rulebook" that only the top brass at MLS see.[/sarcasm]

    Seriously though, I'm not sure how the Wizards get away with it.
     
  4. Beech

    Beech Member

    Jul 26, 2001
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's probably a little kickback/oversight for all the other things that the league doesn't rule in our favor like:

    *Receiving no allocation for replacing founding premier/franchise player Mo Johnston after his retirement.
    *Ignoring KC's discovery pick claim on Taylor Twellman and making him enter the college draft 2 years after he already turned pro.
    *Allowing LA to "Discover" (Ha!) Alexi Lalas after he retired for just one year. Then ignoring the fact that KC still would be the owner of his rights as his original contract with KC would not yet have expired.
     
  5. BenC1357

    BenC1357 Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    KC
    Re: Re: Arnaud signed to senior roster, five added to development squad

    Getting Tally Goode as a developemental player doesn't even begin to make up for that crap. The Twellman deal is one of the lesser known atrocities the league has pulled on us, and the Lalas deal was the biggest joke.
    Before long teams with their own stadiums and/or low rent (KC) will be making money and will not allow this to happen anymore. Because as we all know: Money talks and BS walks.
     
  6. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    glad to see a developmental player "graduate" to a full slot. a small sign that the system works....at least in small ways.
     
  7. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Re: Re: Arnaud signed to senior roster, five added to development squad

    I agree with the other two, but we did get an allocation when Lalas retired, so I don't think we have any real basis for complaint with this one.

    Unless there is something that allows teams to have the third goalkeeper of their choice on the reserve squad, I don't understand the classification of Goode, either. The more interesting thing is, at what age does Taly decide to get on with his life and make a living? It's not like developmental players get paid much. If is 24, and he isn't even an MLS backup at this point, I would think he'd try to catch a starting A-League or D3 job for experience (and probably better pay).
     
  8. Beech

    Beech Member

    Jul 26, 2001
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One spot left (18) and Dante Washington up for grabs.....


    Proven forward.
    Blatant Speed. (Great for counterattack teams which we've been known to be)
    Poacher type as well (better than Brown).
    Backup for Wolf or Simu (both tend to miss time due to injuries and/or call ups)
    Comes from another Hunt run team (inside track)
    Could go for maybe three more years.

    Our Keeper is tops.
    Our Defense is set.
    Our Midfield is set and deep.
    Our Forwards are good only on paper right now. (unproven over an entire season)

    If the price is right, Do you bite?
     
  9. BenC1357

    BenC1357 Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    KC
    Re: Re: Arnaud signed to senior roster, five added to development squad

    Exactly what I was thinking when I read that he'd been let go by Cbus. I think it would be a smart move.
     
  10. ojsgillt

    ojsgillt Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lee's Summit MO
    Joey Dimaggio or who ever is coming back from germany to play in MLS and is entered into a special lottery. I belive he is a forward/attacking mid.
     
  11. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Any attacking mids out there? What happens when Preki isn't ready to drive the engine?
     
  12. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    So, no explanation about how Goode gets to stay a DP despite being almost 25?
     
  13. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I'm guessing that "3rd keeper" is a developmental slot regardless of age. But that's just a guess. I could call someone at MLS and find out, but that would be too much like work.
     
  14. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
  15. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    From MLSnet:
    Okay, I think this may clear things up. Unless Goode is a Nike P-40 player than he shouldn't be on the roster.
     
  16. Beech

    Beech Member

    Jul 26, 2001
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Simu can handle it. He's that type of player except he's not a true finisher (except so far in preseason) that Preki is. He's active and sprays some pretty good passes and doesn't freak in the middle of the field when there are multiple threats to possession. Definitely better than Gomez at that spot.
     
  17. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Okay - I asked the PR folks at the Wizards. Apparently there is an exemption for goalkeepers. They weren't sure, but they think the age limit for them is 27.
     
  18. Unorthodox Yank

    Feb 27, 2001
    Constant Flux
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Simutenkov happens.
     
  19. SoccerNutScott

    SoccerNutScott New Member

    Feb 6, 2001
    Olathe, KS
    Glad to hear about Davy. Congrats man.

    Whatever happenend to Carmichael? I know they said originally he hadn't reported yet because he was still finishing school. Did he ever report? Anyone hear anything about him at all?
     
  20. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Andy, you da' man. Thanks for getting that clarified as I couldn't imagine the league just ignoring the qualifcations for the rule.

    That said, sure would be nice if they published that exemption somewhere because even if they don't make the rules up as they go along, stuff like this doesn't help the perception that they do.
     
  21. KCSoccerSpot

    KCSoccerSpot New Member

    Mar 30, 2002
    Harrisonville, MO
    What do you mean "when"?
     
  22. SourCream&OnionUtd

    Nov 19, 1998
    surprised no one has commented on Brunt

    sure, arnaud may be getting the bump up, but this in effect is a demotion for brunt. i remember seeing him get abused by buddle and cunningham in arrowhead last season and feeling sorry for him. and now this.
     
  23. Roush

    Roush Member

    Dec 19, 2001
    Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, but we all knew he couldn't cut it...
     
  24. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I was thinking more along the lines that we were in denial that he was still with the team.
     
  25. Spoon

    Spoon Member

    Feb 25, 1999
    Overland Park Ks
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Well said.
     

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