Re: Argentinos abroad did you notice how kaka and benzema were refusing to pass it to pipita? he would have been through a couple times. he had to do it on his own- and he did. i wish kun would have scored that last chance to show pellegrini that both raul and benzema are awful. this game is just more proof that madrid will win nothing this year. kaka, pellegrini, and benzema are 3 of my least favorite people in football
Re: Argentinos abroad I noticed that but Higuain also tried doing too much at times and lost the ball. If only Atletico had people in the midfield that could actually distribute the ball they could have won. It was sad seeing Kun have to basically go back to the defense at times and bring the ball up by himself since no one else seemed to be able to do it. I'm pretty sure he's leaving the Atletico circus soon. I think he would actually kill at Chelsea.
Re: Argentinos abroad i did notice that. The farther Higuain comes away from goal the worse he looks. but when real were up 2-0 you could tell he just really wanted to get a goal b/c he knew raul was going to come on for him
Re: Argentinos abroad I think the problem is that Benzema and Kaka have a lot to prove at Real. Higuain is already beloved by the fans. Has scored some important goals for the side. But they seemed happy for him when he scored, so I do not think there is much there. But Higuain could of scored a couple if the ball went through. I am glad he scored right before he left, I become a bigger fan of this kid every day. I am glad we finally have him locked up. He will surely shine for us.
Re: Argentinos abroad I have a bad feeling if Aguero does go to Chelsea. I would just hate if he has to come up as a sub. I just do not believe our boys belong any place near England. Tevez has lost his entire game since going to England. I would rather Kun go elsewhere.Maybe Barcelona, since Henry is on his last legs in Europe I would not mind seeing Kun link up with Ibra and Lio. Two midgets and a giant haha upfront. Whatever moves happen, lets just hope that Di Maria, Kun and our other prize assets stick around at their clubs until the season is over. I would hate Di Maria(Who is on fire right now) and Kun who seems to be finding his game again go to England and rot on the bench until the WC is over.
I hope Aguero does not go to Chelsea, Inter or Barca would be great, but not Chelsea. Tevez looks a shadow of the player he was.
Re: Argentinos abroad Aguero is not going to Barca and either way he probably wouldn't start. Keita is in incredible form and he's a starter and Iniesta isn't going to be benched either. At Inter he would start even less than at Chelsea since they have Milito and Eto'o. At Chelsea he'd only have to start ahead of Anelka who's already old and isn't exactly killing it this season. He'd have incredible players like Ballack, Drogba, Lampard, Joe Cole, ext... feeding him balls. It won't be the case of Tevez who's game was ruined by turning him into a workhorse first and playing him out of position. Plus Anchelotti is a good manager who comes from a non EPL style background.
Re: Argentinos abroad I think Aguero would be great at Chelsea. Unless you lack faith in his abilities? As for Tevez, he never really had the technique to be great at international level, earlier he could compensate for that by using his high energy and workrate, but it wasn't going to be enough. He was completely exposed at Manchester United. He could still be a good role player for Argentina, I'm not ruling that out, but his role would be built on endless running and pressuring.
Re: Argentinos abroad There is no way Kun would start for Barca, if Henry retires, they'll bring in Robinho, and as reserves they also have Pedro Rodriguez and Bojan who have consistently shown their class.
Re: Argentinos abroad Yup, that's true for allthe forwards, they have to start out wide and move in. Like Henry or Messi.
Re: Argentinos abroad Barrios scored his next goal today against Werder Bremen. He actually scored twice but one goal was unrightfully disallowed.
Re: Argentinos abroad I think Kun will start for Barca, remember he is good friends with Lio and I am sure there will be some politics involved. Yes Robinho would be much cheaper to get then Kun but I personally think he would start if he ever went to Barca. Well if he does go to Chelsea and they do shelve the money for him he could start but after a few poor showings he could be sent to the bench.
Re: Argentinos abroad Kun wouldn't start for Barca. Keita is having a monster season and is a guaranteed starter right now. Before he would come off the bench so Iniesta and Henry would both play at the same time. Right now Barca are playing this: ---------Toure ----Xavi--------Keita --Messi--Ibra---Iniesta If Kun goes to Barca who is going to the bench? Not Iniesta. And like I said Keita has been in incredible form and Guardiola has started him almost every match this season. Besides Valdes he's played the most minutes. Kun could possibly start for a period of time when Keita is off to the African Nations Cup. Besides that I don't see it.
Re: Argentinos abroad Lisandro Lopez scored 2 goals for Lyon against Marseille in one of the craziest matches of the year. It ended 5-5. Heinze cost Marseille a PK. Lisandro is increidble really. He's not that tall but he's a very strong striker and is very good at holding up the ball. Sucks that Maradona will never start him.
Re: Argentinos abroad He is also very, very quick, which is a must in international football. I don't quite see your Kun/Keita equation for Barca, Keita, despite his goalscoring feats this season, is essentialy a holding midfielder, Kun is a striker. I can't see Henry being at Barca beyond this season, if rumours are to be believed Barca want to rbing in Robhnio on loan in January, perhaps Aguero might be an option for next season for them. But it's all speculation, personally I think Aguero will end up at Inter.
Re: Argentinos abroad Well Guardiola doesn't really use Keita as a holding midfielder. Barca's holding mids are Busquets and Toure. Keita would mainly be Iniesta's sub last season. And that's the thing, last season he was a sub. Iniesta would play in the midfield and Henry up front. This season Iniesta was injured at the beginning so Keita became a fixture in the midfield and began performing at a high level. When Iniesta came back Henry got injured and Iniesta started playing in Henry's position. Henry hadn't been performing well either way and I think he's basically lost his starting position in the squad while Keita has cemented his as a starter. If Kun went to Barca for him to be a starter would mean Iniesta, who's been playing the LWF role, would move back to midfield and Keita would be benched. Like I said I don't see that happening since he's been in incredible form and Guardiola has played him more minutes than any other player with the exception of Valdes. The only other option would be for Iniesta to be benched and that's not happening.
Re: Argentinos abroad The ability of Aguero is just incredible, he's at a car wreck of a club but he's done amazing things at Atletico, Imagine what he could do at a team that was capable of winning stuff and could defend.
Re: Argentinos abroad That and who would Kun replace in their lineup? He's not suited to the outside forward role that Henry/Iniesta has, he's not going to be taking out Messi, and he's not going to be taking out Ibra. He's best when he is playing behind a no. 9, and I think Barca would prefer Xavi for that . At Chelsea, he would have a no.9 playing in front of him.
Re: Argentinos abroad I hope he doesn't come to the EPL. Inter would be his best choice, in my opinion, but then again I'm not going to be the one who is offered £140k a week wages by Chelski.
Re: Argentinos abroad Henry has been injured... saturday was his first start in over a month. i'm sure that when henry is healthy he will be a starter in most games. iniesta hasn't really been doing the job this season either to be honest. barca basically have 3 players (henry, iniesta, and keita) vying for two starting spots. its not that kun would never play, just that it would be very difficult. i actually think chelsea would be a good option. i hate the EPL, so this is one of the few times i think one of our players should go there. he is so different from tevez that I don't even think some one like ferguson or bentiez would even make him into a workhorse, but with ancelloti there is no way at all. ancelloti is a great manager who has nurtured the likes of pato and kaka. he is not like the normal EPL manager. when AC milan was at their best, they were a great team to watch and he's trying to do the same with chelsea. i also think that kun would start over anelka, who isn't that great to be honest. he would be able to play with a big, strong number nine like drogba. he would also lead the line drogba is gone at the african nations cup.
Re: Argentinos abroad Henry had minor injuries yes but when he played he looked like crap. That's why all the Robinho rumors started. Iniesta has been good imo, he's still getting into form after suffering a fairly long injury. But either way he's not going to be benched. Agreed.
Re: Argentinos abroad You didn't necessarily say this, but you're hinting at it along with everyone else - Why are we blaming the EPL with Tevez's decline? ( I personally would say exposing his weaknesses). I think it's his fault and he wasn't great to begin with, and nowhere near our best option for the left side.
Re: Argentinos abroad Where have you been ? Tevez was easily the best player coming out of South America being named player of the year 3 times in a row. Had he went straight to Spain or Italy I have no doubt he would have developed into a better forward. I disagree about him being "bad" in England. He ended the season on a high note with West Ham and went on to help Manu win all trophies. He was transformed and misused by SAF and lost a lot of his skills especially dribbling. I don't blame it all on the coach thought. EPL is a hackfest you barely have time on the ball, yes it is end to end action but it is all about pressuring for the ball and high defensive line. Nothing like the Italian or Spanish defenses who will be more than happy to sit back and give you the ball. Doesn't make it a better league, defender outside of the top 2 lack organization and discipline. The league and lifestyle don't suit the Argentinian style. Tevez has adapted will to the EPL but it made him worse.